Goblins XIX: New Year, New Updates

[ZhonLord]

Oh yeah, Forgath is still around, as... that thing.

Death would be a mercy, really.

Why? Being a klik amalgam is to his advantage. He probably has DR now well ahead of the appropriate level, and can definitely heal from contact with a variety of substances: metal, tree bark, you name it. It's a huge tactical advantage and allows him to save his healing spells for those who are more susceptible to harm. As long as he still has his senses of touch, smell and tastes, there's no real downside to Klikgath.

[Traab]

Why? Being a klik amalgam is to his advantage. He probably has DR now well ahead of the appropriate level, and can definitely heal from contact with a variety of substances: metal, tree bark, you name it. It's a huge tactical advantage and allows him to save his healing spells for those who are more susceptible to harm. As long as he still has his senses of touch, smell and tastes, there's no real downside to Klikgath.

The problem is he has a list a dozen items long where specific parts of his body are vulnerable to something specific. And its entirely possible healing works the same way. He may not be ABLE to use healing spells on himself. Instead he needs to carry around a supply of a dozen items to repair specific sections of his body if they get damaged. like, he may need iron to heal his right arm, coal for his left pec, mercury for his right eye, etc. Imagine if his right arm is vulnerable to steel and he goes to block an attack with it and it gets chopped right off with screaming agony? His left arm is allergic to wood so that club breaks it like a twig. Its a lot to keep straight.

But I may be wrong. I cant remember when we covered what it means for a klik to merge with a living being. I know it changes something but im not sure I remember what. I just remember there was the potential for problems and thats what happened to dies horribly and his green arm monster. (Which we never went back to)

[Vinyadan]

Yes, Salt was too young, and Forklickft was botched. He probably will have problems similar to Dies's.

[Laurentio III]

So... in the room that makes thing real, MinMax said:
"Forgath died" -> No conseguences, as Forgath actually died, so there is no reality change.
"Brother, you are alive" -> Here, it matters if the spell understand pathos retorical forms. Anyway, just calling someone "brother" should not count as saying "we are brothers". At the same time, "You are alive" is probably innocuous as Forgath is, at this time, alive.
"We're back together!" -> Again, inconseguential on virtue of being correct anyway.

I know this post is useless, but I'm keeping track of things MinMax says for the inevitable moment he will sweat.

[Vinyadan]

New page https://www.goblinscomic.com/comic/page-14-2023

[Traab]

Well ok then! Still time for something to go tragically wrong in this room, but for the moment that was easy.

[Kish]

It is also, I admit, increasingly looking like I gave Elli too much credit in thinking both the black-and-white pages would be colored in.

[Gez]

Why? Being a klik amalgam is to his advantage.

Perhaps as long as he doesn't come across a mirror and instantly dies of shame upon seeing what he has become.

[Fyraltari]

Why? Being a klik amalgam is to his advantage. He probably has DR now well ahead of the appropriate level, and can definitely heal from contact with a variety of substances: metal, tree bark, you name it. It's a huge tactical advantage and allows him to save his healing spells for those who are more susceptible to harm. As long as he still has his senses of touch, smell and tastes, there's no real downside to Klikgath.

This gives big "my character sleeps wearing heavy armor" energy.

[Kish]

Oh yeah, Forgath is still around, as... that thing.

Death would be a mercy, really.

Perhaps as long as he doesn't come across a mirror and instantly dies of shame upon seeing what he has become.

This gives big "my character sleeps wearing heavy armor" energy.

I do not think "better dead than ugly" is an attitude Forgath should be assumed to have at the present or in the future.

[Gez]

I do not think "better dead than ugly" is an attitude Forgath should be assumed to have at the present or in the future.

This goes beyond ugliness and into body horror to me. Forgath is now a living clump of mismatched materials.

[Fyraltari]

I do not think "better dead than ugly" is an attitude Forgath should be assumed to have at the present or in the future.

"Ugly" is severely understating his condition.

But to be clear I was responding to:

Being a klik amalgam is to his advantage. [bunch of tactical considerations] As long as he still has his senses of touch, smell and tastes, there's no real downside to Klikgath

Which reads like fight optimization is the only thing that matters to a character's life.
I don't agree that death would be preferable to life in this state, I just don't think that the fighting bonuses make up for it.

[Emperor Time]

But at least Forgath's mind and soul hasn't changed which is enough for MinMax.

[NontheistCleric]

Forgath doesn't seem to have much problem with it, or at least, he prefers it to death.

[Cygnia]

This goes beyond ugliness and into body horror to me. Forgath is now a living clump of mismatched materials.

Par for the wangsty course then!

[Anonymouswizard]

Par for the wangsty course then!

I thought he already passed that? It seems to be a prerequisite for this comic.

[Lord Torath]

I love how enthusiastic Idle is in confessing to murder.

[Vinyadan]

I love how enthusiastic Idle is in confessing to murder.

Lol, for once she's the one who wasn't killed.

[Steven]

I feel surprised that my prediction wasn't correct. I also don't feel it's very satisfying to have my expectations subverted by the idiot character luck out by saying things that are all consistent with current reality with no real planning.

I guess this is one of those things where there is still plenty of time for it to go horribly wrong before they actually exit the room though so maybe I shouldn't be counting any chickens in either direction

[ZhonLord]

I feel surprised that my prediction wasn't correct. I also don't feel it's very satisfying to have my expectations subverted by the idiot character luck out by saying things that are all consistent with current reality with no real planning.

I guess this is one of those things where there is still plenty of time for it to go horribly wrong before they actually exit the room though so maybe I shouldn't be counting any chickens in either direction

That's true, Minmax is still wearing Truth Teal. On the other hand, I'm much more concerned about Idle. Her entire body is the color of White Lies. If she enters the room things could get very ugly indeed.

[BaronOfHell]

I feel surprised that my prediction wasn't correct. I also don't feel it's very satisfying to have my expectations subverted by the idiot character luck out by saying things that are all consistent with current reality with no real planning.

My guess is that if MinMax had said anything different that also required for different events to have happened, then those events would have been depicted earlier in the comic instead of what we got.

[Gez]

My guess is that if MinMax had said anything different that also required for different events to have happened, then those events would have been depicted earlier in the comic instead of what we got.

The magic only works in the corridor, so any sentence said about the outside is moot.

[NontheistCleric]

The magic only works in the corridor, so any sentence said about the outside is moot.

It might be that the universe itself is bent to ensuring things that occur in the corridor, even if they can be influenced by outside events, will turn out to be true when they are spoken about in the corridor, and that this causality can work backwards in time from when the words are said.

[Anonymouswizard]

It might be that the universe itself is bent to ensuring things that occur in the corridor, even if they can be influenced by outside events, will turn out to be true when they are spoken about in the corridor, and that this causality can work backwards in time from when the words are said.

That doesn't really fit with what we've seen so far. It seems to instead rewrite reality within the vicinity of the corridor, with reverting happening once you leave.

[Vinyadan]

Yep, it doesn't work retroactively, otherwise Kin would have really been Princess Blanket, even back when she first appeared.

And even the oblivion holes in the Maze of Many didn't work retroactively, at least from our point of view.

[Laurentio III]

Kin is stupidily smart, and already asserted that the magic in the room is like Alladin's Genie: "Phenomenal cosmic powers! Itty bitty living space!".
Working outside the room is already too much. Working back in time would be asking the Moon.
Remember, Kin being a queen worked in an hallucination, not even changing the room aspect.

[Vinyadan]

New page. https://www.goblinscomic.com/comic/page-15-2023

I really like that pages are coming out this fast.

[Neoriceisgood]

New page. https://www.goblinscomic.com/comic/page-15-2023

I really like that pages are coming out this fast.

Yeah Goblins update rate has been pretty solid recently, glad to see it.

The page is fine, funny but no major progress.

[remetagross]

Same here. Got an honest chuckle out of me. Having one of these once in a while is refreshing.

[Neoriceisgood]

Same here. Got an honest chuckle out of me. Having one of these once in a while is refreshing.

These types of updates are kinda painful when it's 1 page every month or two months, but with a decent update rate they're welcome.