El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad

[Celestia]

To be honest it will be difficult to riff Yugioh on in any way that was not done by the very first Abridged Series. There are other possibilities though, or the tournament arc may focus more on the interactions between people.

The abridged series only parodied the anime. It did almost nothing with the game. In fact, it largely cut the gameplay out of the show.

[Reboot]

I do hope we get another full game tournament like the last one. I really liked the parody aspect. Though, I'm not sure what more can be parodied. Maybe Dan will do a different game this time? There's plenty about Yugioh to riff on.

I mean, it's the same game they're going to be playing. It wouldn't make much sense to suddenly change it.

Personally, I expect it to be set mostly around the game rather than in the game this time (the latter being the way big chunks of Squirrel Prophet/Duel of the Discs were), but with the occasional drop into Grace-Vision™ when he wants to mix up the visuals and/or draw a cool monster.

[Celestia]

I mean, it's the same game they're going to be playing. It wouldn't make much sense to suddenly change it.

Personally, I expect it to be set mostly around the game rather than in the game this time (the latter being the way big chunks of Squirrel Prophet/Duel of the Discs were), but with the occasional drop into Grace-Vision™ when he wants to mix up the visuals and/or draw a cool monster.

Dan was vague enough about mechanics last time, and Yugioh is similar enough to MTG, that it would work fine.

[Anonymouswizard]

I mean, it's the same game they're going to be playing. It wouldn't make much sense to suddenly change it.

I mean, the idea of an edition change removing land cards is already making me laugh...

Dan was vague enough about mechanics last time, and Yugioh is similar enough to MTG, that it would work fine.

The Duel of the Disks makes it VERY clearly that the game is based on magic, mostly having some ability names removed or changed. As much as a cheap joke about such a change would make me laugh the need to remove Lands and mana would vastly change the game as shown.

[Errorname]

Even just from Squirrel Prophet it's pretty clearly a Magic Clone.

[Kish]

Dan could start adding in Yu-Gi-Oh bits, but I think it's unlikely.

[Errorname]

I'm curious how Susan's going to fit into this arc, because it seems like we're in for another extended card game sequence.

[Devlerbat]

Yea the only way that could work is if you make the card game's rules so stupidly complicated and indecipherable that it seems like it uses different rules each time (and thus parodies different card games each time), similar to how youtuber Prozd has his cow parody card game skits.

But we kind of already had several games shown that clearly use magic-like rules.

Though I guess he could just parody the Yugi-oh monsters and card names despite still using Magic, though personally I am not sure if I could tell the difference between parody and reality. (I thought of "Green-Eyes Red-Dragon", but frankly I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a real monster in Yu-Gi-Oh).

[Anonymouswizard]

Luke is back! I demand a smooch. No, twelve smooches!

[Maat Mons]

Is that silhouette someone we know, or a new character?

[Rater202]

Is that silhouette someone we know, or a new character?

...The silhouette is Box.

These seem to be a flashback to her thoughts after she first befriended Sarah.

[Kish]

The shadow on the wall? It's Pandora.

[Reboot]

These seem to be a flashback to her thoughts after she first befriended Sarah.

They're part of the "memoirs" Pandora left for Hope - it's the same text that's been used for previous instances, including Hope's first appearance and Pandora remembering her previous incarnation's memoirs of magic's last change.

[Errorname]

That Hope can't even remember Luke's name but does clearly remember that Pandora thought his spell was boring is a good character detail

[Reboot]

So the thought occurs to me that if Immortals are no lnonger able to enter the astral realm or whatever it was when they wr intantible that, presumably, they actually need physical places to live.

Presumably, older immortals have such places and most younger ones can probably call it favors but... Hope here is probably homeless.

The Verres residence is, however, soon to have two vacated bedrooms

Looks like she isn't exactly homeless, but her place to crash is less-than-grand. Although moveable.

[Maat Mons]

What spell level do you suppose Hope's Humble Habitation would be?

[Radar]

What spell level do you suppose Hope's Humble Habitation would be?

Considering that it is some extradimensional space or a link to a personal demiplane, it might be pretty high level. A quick look at d20 SRD tells me that this can vary heavily. The earliest spell that can create an extradimensional space to hide in is a 2nd level Rope Trick. That being said, since the place seems to be permanent, I would consider it to be a personal demiplane of sorts, which would be of much higher level - d20 Genesis spell is of 9th level after all. That being said, EGS reality is layered, so it might be less about creating something new and more about accessing what already exists and maybe warding it off from intrusion. In conclusion, anywhere between 2nd and 9th level.

[Gez]

Looks like she isn't exactly homeless, but her place to crash is less-than-grand. Although moveable.

Grand is only good if you don't have to keep it clean yourself.

But she's got a bed, a wardrobe, two chests, and the table + chair combo probably counts as a crafting station. What else could she possibly need?

[Anonymouswizard]

Grand is only good if you don't have to keep it clean yourself.

But she's got a bed, a wardrobe, two chests, and the table + chair combo probably counts as a crafting station. What else could she possibly need?

A shower? A screen in case she needs to change when somebody's over?

[halfeye]

A shower? A screen in case she needs to change when somebody's over?

A bath:

You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.

rhubarb

[Qwertystop]

Yea the only way that could work is if you make the card game's rules so stupidly complicated and indecipherable that it seems like it uses different rules each time (and thus parodies different card games each time), similar to how youtuber Prozd has his cow parody card game skits.

But we kind of already had several games shown that clearly use magic-like rules.

Though I guess he could just parody the Yugi-oh monsters and card names despite still using Magic, though personally I am not sure if I could tell the difference between parody and reality. (I thought of "Green-Eyes Red-Dragon", but frankly I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a real monster in Yu-Gi-Oh).

There is no "Green-Eyes Red Dragon", but there are a lot of "Odd-Eyes" cards (one green and one red eye), most of which are dragons, and many of those dragons are predominantly red.

Yugioh card names go a lot wilder than that, though, over an absurd thematic range. From Interplanetarypurplythorny Beast to Melfy Catty to Super-Nimble Mega Hamster.

[Celestia]

There is no "Green-Eyes Red Dragon", but there are a lot of "Odd-Eyes" cards (one green and one red eye), most of which are dragons, and many of those dragons are predominantly red.

Yugioh card names go a lot wilder than that, though, over an absurd thematic range. From Interplanetarypurplythorny Beast to Melfy Catty to Super-Nimble Mega Hamster.

Don't forget Different Dimension Demon Deity Super-Dimensional Sovereign Emperor Zero Paradox.

[Qwertystop]

Don't forget Different Dimension Demon Deity Super-Dimensional Sovereign Emperor Zero Paradox.

Actually, never mind the monsters - look at some of the other stuff! Don't Slip, the Dogs of War, for example.

[Celestia]

Actually, never mind the monsters - look at some of the other stuff! Don't Slip, the Dogs of War, for example.

Or my favorite: Mind Haxorz!

[Lord Raziere]

here's the thing about parodying Yuigoh specifically: its already ridiculous and dumb. and I don't mean the anime.

its evolved into this game where games end in one or two turns due to ridiculous card combos. its effects are so complicated that they're basically encyclopedias in their own right, and refer to terms that aren't intuitive or obvious. you have to go real far to parody that

so I present my take on it:
tournament player wakes up in the morning, hoping for their match today gets a knock on their door, opens it to see an official tournament organizer
Organizer: hello
player: whats this about?
Organizer: I'm sorry to inform you player, but you have already lost
player: what....why?
Organizer: Unfortunately in the future your opponent would play the Chrono-Paradox Super Ultra Mega X combo where the Super Emperor of Time's effects combine with Mega Rewind Hamster's ability, a spell card and some bananas to go back in time and destroy your life points before the game even started so that you lose in this timeline before the game even begins by attacking on turn negative one
Player: seriously?
Organizer: we saw the card time travel back and everything. I'm sorry if this ruins your plans for the tournament.
Player: No I'm fine, I got a counterplay
Organizer: wait what
The player shows a card named "Chronoguard Z's protection"
Player: as this card's effect states, as long as I have this card on my person I protected from any time-travel based mechanics on any point of my timeline
Organizer checks their rulebook on this real quick
Organizer:....ah yes. thats a valid interaction, apologies for the confusion.
Player: its okay, its an obscure interaction
Organizer: see you at the tournament then?
Player: Not yet, I play Monkey's Devouring Rampage, which makes my opponent lose if they do something involving bananas in any timeline
Organizer: Yeah that checks out, I'll go inform them of their potential loss.

[Radar]

Or my favorite: Mind Haxorz!

So... the Mega Ultra Chicken from the abridged anime was not all that far off from the original? That's a surprise honestly.

[Anonymouswizard]

I mean, if I was parodying Yu-Gi-Oh I'd have one player uses a ridiculous summon method using gerbils or the like in order to pull out Brown Eyes Brown Dragon on turn 1.

But then again I never even played at a local tournament level.

[Gez]

All I know about yugioh (through some second-hand memes) is that it's all about activating trap cards.

[Kish]

If Dan decides to introduce Yu-Gi-Oh elements, I can pretty much guarantee it's not going to be mean-spirited sniping at how ridiculous the entire game is, any more than that's what he's done so far with Magic.

[Fyraltari]

All I know about yugioh (through some second-hand memes) is that it's all about activating trap cards.

And that no one will ever know what Pot of Greed does.