Sick of Anime Arguments?

[horseboy]

Uh? I actually cited in my opening gambit the dumb arguments thread. That was supposed to be a thread containing dumb arguments that people have heard, and it descends into a Damned catfight between anime fanboys and rabid reactionary naysayers. Please, read the damn post before you make an incorrect comment. *cries in desperation*.

Awh, sounds like someone needs a hug.

[Frosty]

The female elves would also have ridiculously over-sized baloon breasts if it were anime.

Anyhow, those that think DnD is too "anime" can simply stop playing if it bothers them that much. I could care less to be honest. The rest of us should just ignore these arguments and move on.

[InkEyes]

Cubey: I'd pirate it. Needs more mecha, though.

That's what the Ents are for! Imagine: forty-foot tall robot trees (I imagine them looking something like green Gundams) fighting giant monsters with laser-swords and the power of love.

[MCerberus]

Imagined traces of eastern culture, in *MY* western-style RPG?


better make a thread about it.


Come on people it's silly. Even if there was some eastern-influenced stuff in DnD, well then they're just using ideas from multiple sources.

[Azerian Kelimon]

Not to mention a western product with Eastern approch would be a smash hit.

[horseboy]

Not to mention a western product with Eastern approch would be a smash hit.

Mmmmm Megas XLR ftw.

[Laurellien]

I'll accept that hug. I need it. This thread is turning into another battleground for fanboys and reactionaries. *sob*

[Azerian Kelimon]

Rephrase: A serious, big budgeted western product with an adult plotline and an Eastern approach.

If someone nitpicks it, I'll call "The Wish-proof textbook of Phrases"TM.

[MCerberus]

Rephrase: A serious, big budgeted western product with an adult plotline and an Eastern approach.

If someone nitpicks it, I'll call "The Wish-proof textbook of Phrases"TM.

I'm not familiar with anyone even trying. Last Samurai was an American style movie and that's the closest example I can see. Other than that you get kids stuff and comedy.

[Azerian Kelimon]

Note: Place "Find a way to create what was phrased in my previous post" on the To-Do list.

[Nerd-o-rama]

Rephrase: A serious, big budgeted western product with an adult plotline and an Eastern approach.

If someone nitpicks it, I'll call "The Wish-proof textbook of Phrases"TM.

The Magnificent Seven, and other Westerns based on Kurosawa? Those put Eastern stories into a Western setting, although they have about as much to do with anime as The Last of the Mohicans has to do with Kim Possible, so I'm not sure if the comparison is valid.

[Azerian Kelimon]

The Magnificent Seven is vaguely the idea. However, I'm thinking of something that takes the style of eastern productions, and uses it with western settings.

BTW, that analogy wins.

[Nerd-o-rama]

It doesn't quite, because I used a specific western cartoon and the whole genre of anime, but everyone got the idea of "very different style", I hope.

[Crow]

The Magnificent Seven is vaguely the idea. However, I'm thinking of something that takes the style of eastern productions, and uses it with western settings.

BTW, that analogy wins.

What, like Kill Bill or something?

[MCerberus]

What, like Kill Bill or something?

Ah there it is. That's a great movie heavy on the Eastern influences. It mixes really well with the spaghetti westerns too. Kind of like how the first 3 Star Wars were Samurai Westerns in space.

[Cuddly]

Not to mention a western product with Eastern approch would be a smash hit.

As far as Eastern style, I'd say the Matrix movie(s) did exceptionally well. That was really the first high wire western action movie.

Recently, this forum has been dominated by the arguments between people who say that D&D is becoming to anime, and those that say it is either a good thing or that it isn't happening. One thread may be fine, but quite frankly, it has gotten ridiculous, with old threads being replaced by new ones and good threads being hijacked.

The perfect example? The dumb arguments thread. Somebody derided those who see D&D as becoming too anime, and from there, the rest of the thread devolved into an argument about D&D and Anime.

I for one am SICK of this phenomenon. I would like to ultimately get the topic banned for a period of time, similar to katana topics which were banned on WotC forums for a while some time ago. Only after a few months cooling off will we be able to approach this topic sensibly again.

Post here if you support this campaign.

Down with this sort of thing!
(Careful Now)

If the boards would loosen up on 'derailing' threads, then this sort of stuff would be better contained to a few threads, instead of requiring a thread to discuss every nuance of what ever the rant of the week is.

[Shraik]

What the hell does "Too Anime" mean? I don't really speak idiot so I don't understand.
Thats my personnel problem with anime is that is like a blackhole, sucking things into until it is lost. Really I find some of the worst obssessers to be the ones that you wouldn't expect(anime, and Harry Potter). I do not see what's so great, most of the time its just Cliché. Most of the time it is overall the same, Monologues, Ninjas, Katanas, High tech stuff. I can see why at first but after a while its jusr "ehh..."

[Nerd-o-rama]

What? Filler

[Sir_Chivalry]

Laurellien, may I just say I support your campaign for prevention rather than retribution.

And I love your reference to Father Ted

[VeisuItaTyhjyys]

Gohan, this argument is ****ing inert!

[RoboticSheeple]

At first I thought this was satire, then I noticed it wasn't and felt sad.
Next time do this as a clever satire.

[VeisuItaTyhjyys]

Wait, it wasn't?

I still don't regret my hipster-reference joke post. Not one bit.

[Felius]

What the hell does "Too Anime" mean? I don't really speak idiot so I don't understand.
Thats my personnel problem with anime is that is like a blackhole, sucking things into until it is lost. Really I find some of the worst obssessers to be the ones that you wouldn't expect(anime, and Harry Potter). I do not see what's so great, most of the time its just Cliché. Most of the time it is overall the same, Monologues, Ninjas, Katanas, High tech stuff. I can see why at first but after a while its jusr "ehh..."

You just don't know many animes do you?
[snap]
Please people, for the sake of Odin and Zeus, Anime is NOT merely DBZ, Naruto and Bleach. It's like saying all western animated series are equal after seeing a couple stereotyped Disney movies. Just because these are the ones that got dubbed, it doesn't mean they are the only ones.
[/snap]

Sorry, I just had to this go.

[GrayMatter]

Off topic, but in a honest attempt to fix a common misperception...

That said...I dislike anime. It's generally sexist, racist, and has both god-awful writing and crude animation. Having been persuaded to watch some Dragon Ball Z (this was when I was twelve, okay? I didn't know better!), I noticed an uncanny resemblance between "Little Sambo" and every black character on the screen.

DBZ (and many others, Bleach, Naruto, etc.) aren't really shows- they're just attempts to keep very young children glued to the TV at the least possible production cost. I liken them to the early Marvel Spiderman cartoons- the ones that were just still frames for minutes at a time with narration and voiceovers. Sure they were drawn, but were they really shows?

Oh and re racism, they really don't care about "fair" portrayal of other races much over there - there's a real reason for it, but that's for another time. Or not lol.

However, it will not take long to show you the true spirit of the medium with a simple Netflix rental of Planetes, Last Exile, Full Metal Alchemist, Kekkaishi (when it's available) or Rurouni Kenshin movies (1,2,4, skip 3)instead of the low class (s)exploitation time traps that litter the wasteland. All are high quality, clean, "serious" works (although you do need to be prepared for some PG to R level tragedy and violence, especially in RK. Romeo and Juliet has NOTHING on Japanese love story tragedies.)

But I completely recommend that you learn to do subtitles, as it is horrible what the dub-writers and voice actors do to both the characters and the stories.

Sorry for the digression, but I found the animes above much better than anything else I see on American TV today, so your comment prompted me to try to undo some of the damage from the pseudo-shows you were exposed to.

/offtopic off

Edit: Dang, ninja'd on the Naruto and Bleach thing lol. GJ.

[Nerd-o-rama]

To be fair, sexism (or at least objectification of women) is rampant even in good shows (anything by Kyoto Animation or Gainax springs to mind immediately), but really, stop judging everything from Japan based on Dragon Ball freaking Z.

Now, if you say "D&D is becoming too anime" and mean "D&D is becoming too Dragon Ball Z", then that's actually something like a reasonable argument, though it would still help to be precise, because not every Japanese cartoon is exactly like DBZ, just like not every American cartoon is exactly like Looney Tunes.

EDIT: Goddammit, why am I still involving myself in this. I need help.

[horseboy]

To be fair, sexism (or at least objectification of women) is rampant even in good shows (anything by Kyoto Animation or Gainax springs to mind immediately), but really, stop judging everything from Japan based on Dragon Ball freaking Z.

Of course, this is pretty much true of all the entertainment industry. I mean, really, try and find 10 minutes on Mtv that doesn't objectify women.

[Nowhere Girl]

D&D isn't anime enough yet.

I have nothing else to add.

[Dairun Cates]

I like how you got the meta-humour, but I actually stand by my point.

Oh. We're WAY past metahumor considering we're now making fun of the metahumor. We're on a whole new level. It's like metametahumor or megametahumor or maybe it's like a double negative and just humor.

[Wordmiser]

Oh. We're WAY past metahumor considering we're now making fun of the metahumor. We're on a whole new level. It's like metametahumor or megametahumor or maybe it's like a double negative and just humor.

And the more it's brought up, the worse it gets...

[Yaki]

Oh. We're WAY past metahumor considering we're now making fun of the metahumor. We're on a whole new level. It's like metametahumor or megametahumor or maybe it's like a double negative and just humor.

don't be ridiculous