What did Haley want to say here?

[ZFR]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0309.html

"Elan, it turns out I may not be exactly what you would call-"

What is it? Did I miss anything?

[Zeitgeist]

I think that still might be considered to be unknown beyond some crazy speculation.

[bluish_wolf]

"... sane." Really, that's the only thing I could think of that would work.

[Raider]

normal, Haley is definately planetouched

[Ancalagon]

"... human."

[factotum]

There are just an amazing number of possible words that fit perfectly as the next one--there's no way we're going to guess it before Rich does his big reveal, I think.

[Swordlol]

"... human."

Second. Win. Lets make it happen, people.

[Raging_Pacifist]

....normal"

I believe this because there is no evidence that Haley is anything but human. But there is evidence that she isn't normal, as she talks to manifestations of her own personality.

[Morgan Wick]

I believe this because there is no evidence that Haley is anything but human.

Not exactly... http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...rderOfTheStick

...Sabine is clearly supposed to be Haley's equivalent in the Linear Guild. [Rich has said] that Haley and Sabine are opposites in a way that has yet to be revealed in the strip...

[Kanti]

i know what most of it says. but only because i have no life and am translating her gibberish.

[Kanti]

Not exactly... http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...rderOfTheStick

thats not substantial evidence

[FoE]

Whatever Haley's secret is, it is apparently so horrifying that it has driven away almost everyone she has ever loved.

I suspect that we'll have to wait until we meet Haley's father before we find out exactly what is her dark secret.

[Corwin Weber]

Whatever Haley's secret is, it is apparently so horrifying that it has driven away almost everyone she has ever loved.

I suspect that we'll have to wait until we meet Haley's father before we find out exactly what is her dark secret.

Or she just thinks it is, and they actually 'left' for various other reasons. She's CG(ish). She doesn't have to actually be at fault to beat herself up over it.

Personally I suspect that the general suspiscion is right. She's only part human. She could be planetouched, or.... I'm more of the opinion that she wasn't kidding when she told Durkon she was part dragon... she just phrased it as a joke to throw people off.

She's greedy, chaotic, and has red hair. Given the circumstances of the comic.... there's at least a decent chance that she has a red dragon in her ancestry. (I doubt it's one of her parents. Probably a grandparent at the closest, and very likely more distant than that. But she probably still has at least some of the traits.)

[Porthos]

thats not substantial evidence

There is circumstantial evidence that Haley might be an Assimar, but nothing "substantial" as you put it.

1) As mentioned above, Rich said in one of the commentary sections of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools that there is another way that Haley and Sabine are opposites. Beyond the obvious one where Sabine is in a relationship with her love while Haley isn't. Well if Sabine is demonic in nature, then an opposite would be for Haley to be angelic in nature, at least partially.
2) Haley showed deep seeded issues about not being a "good enough person" and she lamented that everyone that was "good" in her life left her because she couldn't measure up. This is a classic example of inferiority when having extraordinary parents. In this case Haley would be trying to measure up to her mother (presumably) and consistently failing in her own mind. This also might lead to Preacher Kid Syndrome where the child of a really good person will rebel against their ideals.
3) She has a proficiency in at least Longbow, if not Martial Weapons, which is not on her Class List. This means she either A) took a level of something along the way that gave her MWP, which is exceedingly unlikely since she's never mentioned being anything other than a pure Rogue. B) Took the feat somewhere along the line, which seems kind of a waste even for this comic. Or C) she gets it for free by being an Assimar (it's a hidden feature in their stat block that's been confirmed by WotC.
4) She seems to know a bit about how demons, devils, and the planes work. Which is odd since you wouldn't think that a Rogue would take Knowledge (The Planes). But if she had a parent who was one, then it makes sense. Mind you, she admits to sneaking looks at the rulebooks when she's not supposed to, so this is a fairly weak one.
5) (Admittedly the weakest one) We see a Celestial who appears to be a dead ringer for Haley, right down to the hair. This doesn't say much because of the nature of the comic and the fact that we've seen someone else who looks similar to Haley in the strip. But on the other hand, the person on the boat doesn't have the hair falling down over her eyes. Rich has occasionally drawn Racial Types simmilarly to each other. So it is possible that Haley looks an awful lot like her mother. Sans the wings, of course.

So that's it pretty much. Well that and it just fits the sentence, of course. Almost everything else was either already said by Haley, or is something that Vaarsuvius would know. So nothing concrete, but at least a little bit of smoke. Of everything, the fact that she's proficient in Longbow is the most eye raising thing, IMO.

[Ascension]

I always assumed that the end of the sentence was "...a virgin."

No, I don't really have any reason to think that. It would give her more in common with Sabine, though.

[Morty]

"...a good person".
It fits entirely with ther "I'm not good enough" guilt trip a while after. She might be a planetouched, but only because we can't say for 100% that she isn't, and I don't think that counts as evidence.

[Roderick_BR]

"... a girl."

What? Everyone is making wild guesses anyway.

[Wolfie_1066]

i second the human theory because its the only one that seems to make ANY sence

[Mauve Shirt]

"a good person" makes perfect sense, but "human" is far more interesting.

[Raging_Pacifist]

I always assumed that the end of the sentence was "...a virgin."

No, I don't really have any reason to think that. It would give her more in common with Sabine, though.

Wow. Well then again there is all that sexual temsion w/ . Wait, ewwww. Haley and belkar.

[Querzis]

I always assumed that the end of the sentence was "...a virgin."

Oh she definitly isnt a virgin...and Elan, Roy, V, Belkar and Durkon definitly arent either. Look its a secret so terrible that she never even said it to V and she consider it her greatest secret. Not being a virgin when you are 24 years old isnt really a secret at all, especially if you are as cute as Haley is supposed to be.

«Human» make lots of sense but now that you mention it «a good person» would also fit. Everytimes she does something bad she feel really guilty about it (like leaving O-chul behind) so maybe she did something so terrible when she was young that her mother left her so she still feel guilty about it right now and she has never said it to anyone.

[Porthos]

People who have No Cure for the Paladin Blues already know the answer to the question about Haley's virginity.
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I can't believe I'm actually posting about that particular subject.

[Tal9922]

"...a potato"

What? Its a plausible theory!

[Niknokitueu]

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I give a third (fourth?) vote for "Human".

Also, a possibility exists it could be something like "alive", or "marriage material", or even "available".

IMO most likely is "human" followed by "normal".

Have Fun!
Niknokitueu

[bluish_wolf]

"... female." Haley is a hermaphrodite.

[ZFR]

People who have No Cure for the Paladin Blues already know the answer to the question about Haley's virginity.

What are you referring to? I've read the book but can't think of what you could mean.

[Kish]

What are you referring to? I've read the book but can't think of what you could mean.

The laughing unicorn.

If we're voting, consider this one for "a good person," with a side of "I think Rich may consider the answer self-evident from what he's shown of Haley's self-loathing, and the question therefore resolved."

[Souju]

no one's taking the reason she's amassing such wealth into account?
"elan i'm not exactly what you'd call chaotic..."

[Frictional]

You know, I always used to think that she was going to say something about the ransom to rescue her father.
But then again, I had never read the translation. She could be saying "...greedy." though. That seems to be one of the biggest traits all of her party-mates attribute to her, and would probably throw them off if she said she wasn't.

[Edit] Upon re-reading you Souju, I realize that's exactly what you were saying. Go me.

[Era]

Or she just thinks it is, and they actually 'left' for various other reasons. She's CG(ish). She doesn't have to actually be at fault to beat herself up over it.

Personally I suspect that the general suspiscion is right. She's only part human. She could be planetouched, or.... I'm more of the opinion that she wasn't kidding when she told Durkon she was part dragon... she just phrased it as a joke to throw people off.

She's greedy, chaotic, and has red hair. Given the circumstances of the comic.... there's at least a decent chance that she has a red dragon in her ancestry. (I doubt it's one of her parents. Probably a grandparent at the closest, and very likely more distant than that. But she probably still has at least some of the traits.)

What do you have against dragons???
That's mean, and besides, Rich already made it clear that she is trying to get her dad out of jail. (it'd be ironic if Lord Tyrannar was Elan's/Nale's dad.)


EDIT: YEAH!!! that could be it! Haley and Elan are brother and sister! Or maybe cousins. Or something. (then again, we're all inter-related in a way)