8 side grid

[Warler, Darûk]

Is anyone who can tell me how do I find info on a 8 side grid? I mean, "how to" and this sort of thing? I now it exist, but it's realy dificul to found info on it, and it's dificultly a geografic quetion, since here in Brasil (where I live and yes, it is actualy spelled whit an s) there's a enormous comunity when it comes to RPG, but I am having a hard time to find info on this matter, thank's for your time and I apreciate it!
p.s.: if there is another tread about it, I only posted this one because I did not finded thank's for the attention again and see you on some tread around the playground!

[Sleet]

You mean a map grid using octagons instead of squares or hexagons?

Can't be done, at least not with using regular octagons (all sides the same length, all angles the same). They don't fit together on a flat surface.

Edit: Although, if you say you know they exist, I suspect that I'm not thinking of what you're thinking of.

[Warler, Darûk]

You mean a map grid using octagons instead of squares or hexagons?

Can't be done, at least not with using regular octagons (all sides the same length, all angles the same). They don't fit together on a flat surface.

Edit: Although, if you say you know they exist, I suspect that I'm not thinking of what you're thinking of.

WOW, that was quick... yes, it like an square grid, but whit octagons, i have seen in miniatures game sets and this sort of thing, but old ones that a just dont find anymore. it's an octagonal grid, same side octagons, facing the north, south, east, west, southwestern, northeast, southeastern and the northwest. If anybody have seen this grid, please let me know were, so I can get more data.

[nagora]

WOW, that was quick... yes, it like an square grid, but whit octagons, i have seen in miniatures game sets and this sort of thing, but old ones that a just dont find anymore

Are you sure you don't mean 6-sided (hexagons)?

Edit: I'm sorry to be so negative - your description was very clear but I have never seen a game played on an octagonal board in 35+ years of gaming.

[Studoku]

Octagons don't work as a grid. You'd end up with something like this:

[Warler, Darûk]

Are you sure you don't mean 6-sided (hexagons)?

Edit: I'm sorry to be so negative - your description was very clear but I have never seen a game played on an octagonal board in 35+ years of gaming.

Yes I am sure.

[Chronos]

Can't be done, at least not with using regular octagons (all sides the same length, all angles the same). They don't fit together on a flat surface.

Sure it's possible, if you're playing on a surface of negative (hyperbolic) curvature. But that game would be more likely to be Wormholes and Warpfields, not Dungeons and Dragons.

[Warler, Darûk]

Sure it's possible, if you're playing on a surface of negative (hyperbolic) curvature. But that game would be more likely to be Wormholes and Warpfields, not Dungeons and Dragons.

Am I nuts, or every body understood it too?

[Fhaolan]

I have vague memories of seeing a game that tried octogons (with little squares inbetween on the diagonals.) But it really didn't work that well. Hexagons work far better.

[Warler, Darûk]

Sure it's possible, if you're playing on a surface of negative (hyperbolic) curvature. But that game would be more likely to be Wormholes and Warpfields, not Dungeons and Dragons.

Jokes a side it's a gird for irregular superficies, like, mountains, hills, inner casttles (reavenloft) and forests, towns, that sort of thing

[Warler, Darûk]

I have vague memories of seeing a game that tried octogons (with little squares inbetween on the diagonals.) But it really didn't work that well. Hexagons work far better.

That must explain it, but personaly I prefer squares than hexagons, but never tried octagons and really looked foward to

[Illiterate Scribe]

I always wanted to play DnD on a non-Euclidean grid.

[fendrin]

I once made up rules for using a octagonal map (it looked like stu42's picture but rotated 45 degrees). It didn't really work out well. It essentially worked like D&D's square grid except you couldn't attack diagonally.

It was easier to keep track of diagonal movement, though. The squares (which I filled in black) counted as a half-'step', so it was easy enough to add as you were going along.

Eventually I went back to squares because that was what everybody was used to.

Sure it's possible, if you're playing on a surface of negative (hyperbolic) curvature. But that game would be more likely to be Wormholes and Warpfields, not Dungeons and Dragons.

Ooh, I'd love to get my hands on a copy of the W&W PHB!

[AKA_Bait]

If you really want to use one that bad, you can create one somewhat easily using adobe and the image from http://www.wisegorilla.com/images/te...ns/octagon.gif that Stu42 above pasted in. I've created hex maps out of regular floor plans/maps that way.

[nagora]

Jokes a side it's a gird for irregular superficies, like, mountains, hills, inner casttles (reavenloft) and forests, towns, that sort of thing

Ah ha! Ravenloft triggers a memory: how about this:



Isometric grid, which is what the original Raveloft map was based on, I think.

Edit: Try this page for an example of how the above was used in Raveloft

[Warler, Darûk]

Ah ha! Ravenloft triggers a memory: how about this:



Isometric grid, which is what the original Raveloft map was based on, I think.

Edit: Try this page for an example of how the above was used in Raveloft

Yes, it does help, it's pretty much something like that, a little more clean, is more like AKA_Bait sayed, but whitout the squares.

[valadil]

Could you maybe draw out what this grid looked like? I'm with the math people who say a grid based on octagons just doesn't work.

Here's a hex option. Something with octagons would like like what Stu posted or one of these. The spaces between octagons won't fit another octagon. At all. Ever.

[Warler, Darûk]

Actuali I am trying to draw it nopw, but I am relay bad at it, draw maps it ok, because cartografi is more like geometric graphics then drawning itself, but gridsthis grud is a hcallenge, and a well put challenge. a am gonna try to hand drowm it , , if i take long to reply, is because I am doing math

[Warler, Darûk]

Could you maybe draw out what this grid looked like? I'm with the math people who say a grid based on octagons just doesn't work.

Here's a hex option. Something with octagons would like like what Stu posted or one of these. The spaces between octagons won't fit another octagon. At all. Ever.

That's the one, the second is the one I am looking for, the grid was made for maping I guess, the holes actually are squares, if you look in certain angle.

[Warler, Darûk]

Sorry AKA_Bait, you ware right, I confused the grid you show. must be the math, Math makes head hurt...

[Warler, Darûk]

Sorry AKA_Bait, you ware right, I confused the grid you show. must be the math, Math makes head hurt...

It explain the avatar...

[Nerd-o-rama]

I guess the question's been answered, but seriously, when you want to say more than one thing in a row, use the button. Quadruple-posting makes the board server (and other users) cry.

Also, yay math. Isn't it true that you can only make regular grid patterns out of 3, 4, and 6-sided figures? Or is there another exception I'm forgetting?

[Lapak]

That's the one, the second is the one I am looking for, the grid was made for maping I guess, the holes actually are squares, if you look in certain angle.

Unless you're using the gaps for something, that kind of map is just a fancier-looking square, functionally.

[Warler, Darûk]

I guess the question's been answered, but seriously, when you want to say more than one thing in a row, use the button. Quadruple-posting makes the board server (and other users) cry.

Also, yay math. Isn't it true that you can only make regular grid patterns out of 3, 4, and 6-sided figures? Or is there another exception I'm forgetting?

sorry abaout that, firefox is making my life miserable on this forum, don know why but it does not work well on this site.
about been a fancy square, as the math guy has sayd it, in a esfere it would work, only it would work

[SilverClawShift]

Yes, it does help, it's pretty much something like that, a little more clean, is more like AKA_Bait sayed, but whitout the squares.

Actually, I think the map is okay. It's the complete lack of reference that makes it look like a mess. Here:



You're the green guy. That's you moving 30 feet on your turn, with a little bit of a curved flourish (getting into position to flank?)
The blue is an ally. The lighter blue is what it would look like if they took a 5 foot step.
The red is an enemy ogre, large sized and ready to smash.

Toss in some trees, a stream, and it's not a bad grid.

[Ascension]

What isometric is really good for, though, is drawing in three dimensions. You could really have some fun with an all-Raptoran party and an isometric grid mapped out in such a way that you could keep track of altitude.

[Dr Bwaa]

Also, yay math. Isn't it true that you can only make regular grid patterns out of 3, 4, and 6-sided figures? Or is there another exception I'm forgetting?

You forgot 2- and 1-sided figures!
But no, other than those no (regular) n-gon can be made into a grid (some irregular ones can, though):

[Warler, Darûk]

What isometric is really good for, though, is drawing in three dimensions. You could really have some fun with an all-Raptoran party and an isometric grid mapped out in such a way that you could keep track of altitude.

Truth iiin fact. But a real octagonal grid is a soccer ball.

[Ascension]

Truth iiin fact. But a real octagonal grid is a soccer ball.

Not really. Only some of the patches on a soccer ball are octagons. IIRC there are pentagons between them, but they may be hexagons.

[Warler, Darûk]

Not really. Only some of the patches on a soccer ball are octagons. IIRC there are pentagons between them, but they may be hexagons.

Yes, there is more than one kind of soccer ball