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    Default Changeling Cheese or Easy Evasion

    Anyone know of a PrC that'll give me Evasion but not kill my caster level?

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    What kind of cheese can you pull off with a changeling? They qualify for the War Shaper PrC pretty easily, unless I'm mistaken. Anything else they can do thats real nice?

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    Default Re: Changeling Cheese or Easy Evasion

    What about a ring of evasion? It's 20k, 10k if you make it.

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    Default Re: Changeling Cheese or Easy Evasion

    Quote Originally Posted by NobleSavage View Post
    Anyone know of a PrC that'll give me Evasion but not kill my caster level?

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    What kind of cheese can you pull off with a changeling? They qualify for the War Shaper PrC pretty easily, unless I'm mistaken. Anything else they can do thats real nice?
    Wizard (Abjurer) 3/Master Specialist 7
    Anything that there is a save for partial or no effect does nothing to you on a successful save. Evasion + mettle basically.

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    Trying to qualify for the Magelord PrC.

    Looking at being a Changeling, either an adaptable spellslinger or a facedancing spy able to imitate many roles (looked at the Chameleon, but it seems a little underpowered if you don't optimize the heck out of it, especially at low[Chameleon] levels). Looking at Rogue/Cabinet Spy/Warshaper for the second option, anything else I should add?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralamin View Post
    Wizard (Abjurer) 3/Master Specialist 7
    Anything that there is a save for partial or no effect does nothing to you on a successful save. Evasion + mettle basically.
    Only if you cast an Abjuration spell. Read the description:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralamin View Post
    Wizard (Abjurer) 3/Master Specialist 7
    Anything that there is a save for partial or no effect does nothing to you on a successful save. Evasion + mettle basically.
    Nifty. Combine with Insightful Reflexes (Complete Adventurer feat; into replaces Dex in Reflex saves) and Keen Intellect (Oriental Adventures Ancestor Feat, Int replaces Wis for Will saves, plus a few skills) and all you need is Con and Int. Hmm...

    Edit: Oh, you'll need to grab a few levels of Abjurant Champion in there some where so that Abjurations are quick and painless to cast....
    Last edited by Jack_Simth; 2008-05-17 at 06:04 PM.
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    So, either:
    Wiz 3/Master Specialist 7/Ruathar 2/Abjurant Champion --

    Would do it, rather painlessly. +3 Reflex jump, free martial weap prof. Even a minor skill boost for 2 levels and hit die boost.
    Or, Wiz 3/Master Specialist 8/Abjurant Champion
    With a feat dumped to get the proficiency or a race that gives it (Yay for gray elves?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetRein View Post
    So, either:
    Wiz 3/Master Specialist 7/Ruathar 2/Abjurant Champion --

    Would do it, rather painlessly. +3 Reflex jump, free martial weap prof. Even a minor skill boost for 2 levels and hit die boost.
    Or, Wiz 3/Master Specialist 8/Abjurant Champion
    With a feat dumped to get the proficiency or a race that gives it (Yay for gray elves?).
    If you can convince your DM that Fractional BAB and Saves are good for him (loses you a few points of Will, though) you can do that with Abjurer-3/Master Specialist-7/Abjurant Champion-X.

    Let's see... how many feats does this require?

    Combat Casting for Abjurant Champion, a feat for Int to Will, a Feat for Int to Ref, Spell Focus for Master Specialist.... that's four. 1st, 3rd, 6th, 9th - we have the general case. An Elf of some stripe, or a human taking a martial weapon proficiency feat, can pull it off. Take your 12th and 15th for another Spell Focus, and Skill Focus(Spellcraft), and you can top it off with Archmage.
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack_Simth View Post
    Combine with Insightful Reflexes (Complete Adventurer feat; into replaces Dex in Reflex saves) and Keen Intellect (Oriental Adventures Ancestor Feat, Int replaces Wis for Will saves, plus a few skills) and all you need is Con and Int.
    Convince your DM to accept Faeries Mysteries Initiate and you only need INT for everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroNumerous View Post
    Convince your DM to accept Faeries Mysteries Initiate and you only need INT for everything.
    Still need Con for Fort saves - it doesn't replace that; just HP.

    ... but that could make a Wizard into a veritable tank, couldn't it?
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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