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    Fun as always, Giant :)

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    I like the heavenly 1st ed games they're running. Good times.


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    I'm so happy that Belkar's going to be dying soon. Well, hopefully soon.
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    Noooo, not the Belkster!


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    Great as always.
    Hehe, so you theought that about the time needed clarification? But I suppose it stopped a few potential debates.

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    But who knows, belkar might become a undead - they don't breath do they?
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    Thank goodness that Belkar will be dying soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurellien View Post
    Thank goodness that Belkar will be dying soon.
    Um, not exactly.

    An in-comic year could be the entire remaining run of the comic. Belkar could die in the very last OOTS comic ever 4-5 years from now, and as long as less than a year of time had passed for the characters, this prophecy would be fulfilled.
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    Fourth wall alert!
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    Something tels me that Belkars death won't get played straight.

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    hm... Roy remembering every thing that happened isn't gonna be much use to him or anyone else... unless I'm forgetting something.
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    *Clears throught*

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    Hmmm...

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    The oracle says "draw his last breath" - I wonder if that's to leave room for Belkar becoming undead.


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    Awesome comic, but I have to doubt that Roy retaining his memories is unintentional. Given the Magnificent Bastard score of the Oracle up to this point, such a blatant oversight seems unlikely, though what purpose it could serve I do not know.
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    what if the orcale did know Roy would remember and actually said something just to mess stuff up for fun. Also, it is agreeable that Belkar may come back as an undead figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzclowningham View Post
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    The oracle says "draw his last breath" - I wonder if that's to leave room for Belkar becoming undead.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Elder Tsofu View Post
    But I suppose it stopped a few potential debates.
    I don't know about that ... we have evidence now that the Oracle may be fallible, since he seemed to expect that the memory charm would work.

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    Great, so we know that the oracle's side comments are important as well...
    Oh, and that he's likely to have picked UMD as a class skill.

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    Oh, and Belkar mught get turned into a construct, thus unable to eat another birthday cake and not aging - thus not needing IRA funding. Oh, and not breathing of course.
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    "They did!" Haha awesome strip.

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    As for Roy remembering everything... will he still remember the afterlife if he ever gets resurrected?

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    now theres gonna be theories of how Belkar is going to die, and such.

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    To the oracle, leaving Roy with the knowledge was probably unintentional, as it was unavoidable; Roy wasn't going anywhere unless he was dismissed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Dew View Post
    I don't know about that ... we have evidence now that the Oracle may be fallible, since he seemed to expect that the memory charm would work.
    Not at all. We have evidence of one of two things:

    1.) That the Oracle is always right WHEN he looks into the future, but he must consciously choose to look. As in, he's not omniscient, he needs to choose to view particular facts in order to know about them.

    OR

    2.) Roy thinks #1 is true, but it is not and the Oracle is misleading Roy in some way by allowing him to keep his memories.

    Neither one of those implies that the Oracle's actual visions of the future will in any way fail to come to pass.
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    What does he mean, should have checked the map? Or is this just one of those things revealed later? Like, until the end of the in-comic-year.

    Plus, poor wall. I mourn your demise. Again. I wonder someone still raises you, considering how often you have to die here.

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    DMG p82.

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    your are under arrest for the abuse and mistreatment of the fourth wall.
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    What does he mean, should have checked the map? Or is this just one of those things revealed later? Like, until the end of the in-comic-year.
    It's a gibe at Belkar for not knowing that he was inside a village, and thus at risk of setting off the MoJ.
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    I'm probably being dense, but when did Roy go to the Oracle before as a ghost? Unless the point is that we never saw it happen because he forgot about it, in which case never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurellien View Post
    Thank goodness that Belkar will be dying soon.
    Ah, but the oracle didn't say the belkster would *die*, just that he'll draw his last breath - ever.

    He might just achieve some sort of ascension (or more likely 'descent') into demi-godhood (I'm assuming here that breathing is optional for immortals)...

    "I am a sexy, shoeless god of war".

    ...or, in the grand tradition of intergenerational heroic fiction, one of the party of heroes needs to split off and become the villain for the next generation... Belkar is certainly qualified, maybe when Xykon is finally vanquished, Belkar finds the only existing copy of "Lich-hood for Dummies (by Redcloak)" and reads it...

    All-in-all, if there's a more dramatic spin the Giant can put on "draw his last breath", I'm sure he will.

    Unless he decides on the double-reverse twist to put the smackdown on this kind of speculation, and goes with a simple, literal death...


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