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2008-09-24, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Assistance building a character
So I'll be playing a campaign in a month or so, using this class:Cavalier Base Class
I've already got DM approval, and rolled these stats:
14
18
12
12
13
12
We're starting at level four, and I've already been informed it'll be a mix of underground and overworld fighting, so I don't want to focus too much on one or the other. I'm leaning towards human, but I'm open to suggestions.
My equipment list, so far anyway:
Full Plate
Light Steel Shield
Heavy Warhorse
Scimitar
Lance
Military Saddle
Saddlebags
Explorer's Outfit
1954gp
Which leaves me some cash for magic items.
And as far as I know there are no banned books.
Unrelated question: The SRD states that weapons not primarily of metal cannot be Adamantine or other materials, but it lists ammunition. Are adamantine sling bullets possible?I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2008-09-24, 08:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Assistance building a character
Since there is actually a price listing for sling bullets made of adamantium, I would say yes.
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2008-09-24, 08:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why would you want adamantine sling bullets? There aren't that many...
I'd say yes. Sling bullets can be made of metal. I think arrows are another story by the rules...though, really, they use metal in real life for arrows so...Umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu.
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2008-09-24, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Assistance building a character
"mix of underground and overworld fighting"
This screams Gnome and tunnel fighting that way you can use your mount underground.
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2008-09-24, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'd consider a Halfling of any variety simply to fit in Dungeons. Unfortunately, Horses are Large and thus simply don't fit in most underground locales, so unless your DM specifically convinces you there will be a chance to stay mounted underground, I'd consider a smaller race - not fitting around sucks (although I recall there are feats around this - allowing you and your mount to squeeze without penalties).
Anyways, you'll obviously want the Mounted Combat-feats not included in Cavalier - Spirited Charge and perhaps Trample. Also, I found the feat, it's called "Tunnel Riding" from Races of Stone and requires Tunnel Fighting. It would be fairly awesome for you - most of your class abilities are related to using a mount anyways so being denied that makes you a spiffed up Warrior.
I'd pick up Power Attack too - when off the horse, you'll probably want to dual wield a Morningstar (á la the actual Knights of the past), Greatsword or similar. Shield is very handy on a horseback as you can use Lance one-handed, but off the horse, two-handed Power Attacking is the way to go.Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
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2008-09-24, 09:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-09-24, 02:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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The sling question is because those rare occasions I've used one, stones were the ammo of choice.
Arrows get in under the fact that only the head is doing damage, though this shouldn't then preclude Scythes. *shrug* I was just curious.
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I think I'll go human and fight on foot. The extra feat is worth it. So I'll pickup Ride-by and Spirited Charge, which leaves me with two to go. Power Attack is always a worthwhile choice.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2008-09-24, 02:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-09-24, 03:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Assistance building a character
If you went with Halfling you could always take some Halfling Outrider levels. I don't have the book in front of me so I forget how good it is.
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2008-09-24, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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While it's setting specific, Strongheart Halfling could get you small size and bonus feat. The only real option though.
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2008-09-25, 04:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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My real problem with Halflings is the loss of strength for my Lance. That said I could see an Outrider mounted on a spider with a bow shooting from the walls.
+1 to hit, and +1 to AC? (WoTC would give out +3 LA ) Nah, not too overpowered.I am trying out LPing. Check out my channel here: Triaxx2
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2008-09-25, 04:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-09-25, 05:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm playing it as Heavy Cavalry. Which means I charge at the biggest guy with my triple damage lance, and then use my sword to beat a path back out. Or overrun for another charge attempt. If I were going light cavalry, I'd be using Mounted Archery and Ride-by to shoot at them as I charged past.
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2008-09-25, 06:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Assistance building a character
From human to SH halfling you lose:
1-2 dmg (depending on your previous strength)
Skill points (3+CL)
You gain:
+1 AC
+4 hide
Small Size (fit in dungeons while mounted)
Qualification for Halfling Outrider
I think that is worth it.
Also wild plains outrunner is a good class for mounted archery I believe.
Why not spirited Charge+Rideby for 4x damage, and repeat next round?Last edited by BobVosh; 2008-09-25 at 06:13 AM.
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2008-09-25, 06:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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You might also want to consider the Wardog from Heroes of Battle as a mount, if you take the path of the halfling.
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2008-09-25, 06:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Assistance building a character
A Fleshraker, any number of Dragons, quite a few Devils, and quite a few others can be broken to the saddle through a combination of skill checks and abuse of Planar Binding. Why ride a vicious dog when you can ride a fire-breathing guard beast ripped out of the bowls of hell and magically bound to bear you into combat and rip the throats out of the Devils that were it's former allies and masters? Teach them to call you short.
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2008-09-25, 08:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-09-25, 08:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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I see your point. I'm avoiding Archery on purpose though. Outrider would also require I take a level in tracking.
Because the class I'm using doesn't get that ability until 13. I think I'll go with the Strongheart Halfling, and if it doesn't work out, I'll die and get reincarnated until I get Human.
I'll probably pick up a flying mount later on. I think the DM would kill me if I asked for a Dragon, so I'll see about a Wyvern.
So, going Strongheart and laying out the stats like so:
STR 16 (18)
DEX 15 (13)
CON 12
INT 12
WIS 12
CHA 14
I can snag Spirited Charge, Ride-By, Power Attack, which leaves me one feat free.
I know I'll be putting Max Ranks in Handle Animal and Ride, and reserve the rest until I see what the DM has planned for the world.
Is it better to use the Lance one-handed with a shield? Or Two handed for the Strength Bonus?
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2008-09-25, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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While I'm often alone in this belief, I would call a "I'm fresh of out feat ideas" situation on a big multiplier setup a weapon focus time. +1 with a lance. Whoop-de-crap. But take away that one with power attack, apply lance/spirited charge whatever other crap (someone mentioned x4 damage I think) and that +1 is +8 damage. -1 attack = +2 damage x4 is 8. Uber optimal? Probably not, but an extra +1 isn't going to hurt either. If absolutely nothing else seems remotely usable at all...ever... maybe possibly consider it.
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2008-09-26, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Good Point. Plus I can pick up Power Critical later on for confirming my newly keen lance.
Do I need small size weapons for this character? I don't usually play with Halflings.Last edited by Triaxx; 2008-09-26 at 10:22 AM.
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2008-09-26, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, but dropping from a d8 to a d6 isn't a huge issue.
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