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    Default Breathing in smoke?

    So, my pyrokineticist player recently realized he'll be choking and collapsing if he tries to stay in a building while it burns.

    Suggestions on avoiding that, suggestions a level 5 player can afford?
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    Gust of Wind is the popular favorite for removing unpleasant air, that is, assuming you have an arcane friend to help you.
    Bottle of Air is a sure-fire fix, but may be a little expensive.
    You can also hold your breath rounds equal to twice your Constitution score, which might be enough for your purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prometheus View Post
    Bottle of Air is a sure-fire fix, but may be a little expensive.
    Yeah, if it wasn't for the price tag (over half of a level 5 char's WBL), a bottle of air would be the easy choice.

    The only less expensive option I can come up with, is a potion of water breathing (750gp) and carrying a bucket of water with you to breath out of. The potion's effect will last for ten hours, so that should be sufficient for a building to be reduced to smoldering embers.
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    Default Re: Breathing in smoke?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow_archmagi View Post
    So, my pyrokineticist player recently realized he'll be choking and collapsing if he tries to stay in a building while it burns.

    Suggestions on avoiding that, suggestions a level 5 player can afford?
    Stand outside.

    Serious head on: soaked cloth over the mouth should give you a +2 to Fort saves against smoke inhalation for a few rounds.

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    The item you're looking for is the Necklace of Adaptation, costs 9,000gp. Ignore all gaseous hazards, breathe underwater and in a vaccum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fizban View Post
    The item you're looking for is the Necklace of Adaptation, costs 9,000gp. Ignore all gaseous hazards, breathe underwater and in a vaccum.
    And will bankrupt a level 5 character.
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    In either Complete Arcane or Complete Mage, there is a 100 gold item that is like an alchemical gas mask, and lasts for 1 hour. A few of them should tide you over until you can afford a more expensive and permanent solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosssmiley View Post
    Stand outside.
    I second this, why in the Gray Wastes of Hades is he standing inside of a burning building?

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    Either ^, or just homebrew something.
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    Mask of Sweet Air (MIC 116, 2000). "You can breathe freely in air fouled by smoke, dust, and fumes without fear of suffocation."

    Cheaper solution: Air plant from Stormwrack. 25 gp, provides fresh air for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsinger View Post
    I second this, why in the Gray Wastes of Hades is he standing inside of a burning building?
    I suspect hilarious misreading of the prestige class prerequesites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tengu_temp View Post
    I suspect hilarious misreading of the prestige class prerequesites.
    I thought that for a moment, but I chose to have some amount of faith in humanity and assume he knew you didn't have to be inside.

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    A Bag of Holding and a straw would give him 10 minutes, and he'd still be able to use the bag for other stuff.

    Actually, he could probably survive with just the straw. Smoke rises, so during most fires there's a cushion of breathable air underneath the smoke. If the player had a properly sized breathing tube then he could just let the other end of it dangle a few inches from the floor and he'd be fine. (He could also get down on his hands and knees, but that'd limit his movement/combat options.)

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    Assuming smoke inhalation is a poison effect, get some alchemical antitoxin. A potion of delay poison would let you postpone the inhalation effects until a later casting of neutralize poison was available.

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    You can survive in smoke without oxygen for your con score numbers of rounds. (holding breath under water rule)
    Lizardfolk get x4 number of rounds.

    Actually more. Being under water causes you to consume more air. So I'd say you can survive for your con score +2. If not more.

    Or you can keep your head to the ground, it works at least in the begining. But don't stay too long though.
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    Sleep with a wizard/artificier until he starts giving you gifts. Get a ring of sustance. Win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobVosh View Post
    Sleep with a wizard/artificier until he starts giving you gifts. Get a ring of sustance. Win.
    Uh, you still need to breathe with a ring of sustenance on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    The only less expensive option I can come up with, is a potion of water breathing (750gp) and carrying a bucket of water with you to breath out of. The potion's effect will last for ten hours, so that should be sufficient for a building to be reduced to smoldering embers.
    That may simultaneously be the silliest and most brilliant thing I've ever read!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasdoif View Post
    And will bankrupt a level 5 character.
    *Facepalm*

    Right, so in that case, you need one of the various alchemical solutions. They're scattered across more books than I care to search at the moment. The air plant mentioned above is an option, there are two different gas mask/"alchemical air supply" versions (one of which is crazy expensive and the other absurdly cheap). There's clearbreath in one of the skill based character books, which gives you some extra air time. I think the Arms and Equipment guide has a couple different options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEO|Phyte View Post
    Uh, you still need to breathe with a ring of sustenance on.
    Coulda sworn you didn't. This is what happens when you post where you can't do a quick SRD check. Stupid blocked sites at work

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leewei View Post
    Assuming smoke inhalation is a poison effect, get some alchemical antitoxin. A potion of delay poison would let you postpone the inhalation effects until a later casting of neutralize poison was available.
    It isn't though, breathing smoke falls under suffocation rules I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starsinger View Post
    I second this, why in the Gray Wastes of Hades is he standing inside of a burning building?
    Actually, I havn't mentioned the prerequisite of burning down a building to him yet. He just wants to be able to really revel in fire, and dance in it and such, since he's got enough fire resistance to not have to worry.

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