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    Default Vote Up A Star Wars SE Adversary: Almost Unoriginal! [HK-42-R1 Complete!]

    There are only two Vote Up As on the first page now. That's an unacceptably low number. Besides, they're all D&D. They aren't anywhere near galaxies far, far away. It's time to bring the Vote Up A trend to Star Wars Saga Edition. No, it's past time. So, let's get to voting up an adversary, shall we? I say "Adversary" so the field is more open than "monster" or "villain." I could go even more generic and make it "NPC," but that sounds... blander.

    1.) Basic Classification
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    {table=head]Classification|Votes
    Organic Sentient|3
    Droid|9
    Beast|2[/table]


    2a.) If an Organic Sentient:
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    {table=head]Species|Votes
    Human|0
    Bothan|0
    Cerean|0
    Duros|0
    Ewok|0
    Gamorrean|0
    Gungan|0
    Ithorian|0
    Kel Dor|0
    Mon Calamari|0
    Quarren|0
    Rodian|0
    Sullustan|0
    Trandoshan|0
    Twi'lek|0
    Wookiee|0
    Zabrak|0
    Aqualish|0
    Hutt|0
    Neimoidian|0
    Yuuzhan Vong|0
    Arkanian|0
    Cathar|0
    Draethos|0
    Feeorin|0
    Khil|0
    Kissai|0
    Massassi|0
    Miraluka|0
    Rakata|0
    Selkath|0
    Snivvian|0
    Aleena|0
    Caamasi|0
    Felucian|0
    Gran|0
    Nosaurian|0
    Talz|0
    Togorian|0
    Togruta|0
    Whiphid|0
    Yarkora|0
    Chistori|0
    Utai|0
    Other Species (Please Specify)|0
    [/table]


    2b.) If a Droid:

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    Degree
    {table=head]Degree|Votes
    1st (medical, scientific)|0
    2nd (astromech, technical)|2
    3rd (protocol, service)|0
    4th (combat, security)|8
    5th (labor, utility)|2
    Replica Droid|0
    [/table]

    Size
    {table=head]Size|Votes
    Fine|0
    Diminutive|0
    Tiny|0
    Small|2
    Medium|7
    Large|1
    Huge|1
    Gargantuan|0
    Colossal|1
    [/table]


    2c.) If a Beast:
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    Classification:
    {table=head]Type|Votes
    Mammal|0
    Reptile|0
    Reptomammal|0
    Bird|0
    Insect|0
    Arachnid|0
    Invertebrate (other)|0
    Fish|0
    Amphibian|0
    Plant|0
    Fungus|0
    Other (please specify)|0
    [/table]

    Environment:
    {table=head]Environment|Votes
    Jungle|0
    Desert|0
    Arctic|0
    Mountain|0
    Grassland|0
    Aquatic|0
    Air|0
    Vacuum|0
    Swamp|0
    Seashore|0
    Urban|0
    Other (please specify)|0
    [/table]

    Size
    {table=head]Size|Votes
    Fine|0
    Diminutive|0
    Tiny|0
    Small|0
    Medium|0
    Large|0
    Huge|0
    Gargantuan|0
    Colossal|0
    [/table]


    3.) Primary Class:
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    {table=head]Class|Votes
    Jedi|7
    Noble|5
    Scoundrel|3
    Scout|2
    Soldier|1
    Non-heroic|0
    Beast|0
    Other (please specify)|0
    [/table]


    4.) Force Sensitive?:
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    {table=head]Sensitivity|Votes
    Yes (Trained)|1
    Yes (Untrained)|0
    No|6
    [/table]


    5.) Dark Side Score:
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    {table=head]DSPs|Votes
    Zero|0
    Low|2
    Mid|5
    High|4
    Equal to Wisdom|0
    The square root of the sum of the squares of its Wisdom and Intelligence Modifiers|1
    [/table]


    6.) Era:
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    {table=head]Era|Votes
    Old Republic|3
    Rise of the Empire|1
    Rebellion|2
    New Republic|1
    New Jedi Order|2
    Legacy|3
    [/table]


    7.) Planet of Origin:
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    {table=head]Planet|Votes
    Coruscant|4
    Kuat|1
    Balmorra|1
    Vjun|2
    Csilla|1
    Dantooine|1
    Fondor|1
    [/table]


    8.) Motivations:
    I originally planned to make the motivations more specific, but I've decided to keep them a bit vague. Remember to vote for two, one for each era.

    Old Republic:
    {table=head]Motivation|Votes
    Service (Republic)|0
    Service (Jedi)|0
    Service (Sith)|3
    Service (Other)|0
    Justice|3
    Freedom|0
    Power|0
    Droid Rights|0
    Droid Revolution|2
    Conquest|0
    Genocide|2
    The Greater Good|0
    Vengeance|0
    Boredom|1
    Logic|0
    Insanity|0
    Destruction|0
    Greed|0
    Fear|0
    Anger|0
    Hate|0
    Suffering|0
    The Dark Side|0
    Other (Please Specify)|0
    [/table]

    Legacy:
    {table=head]Motivation|Votes
    Service (Galactic Alliance)|0
    Service (Galactic Alliance Remnant)|0
    Service (Fel Empire)|0
    Service (Jedi)|0
    Service (Sith)|1
    Service (Other)|0
    Justice|0
    Freedom|0
    Power|0
    Droid Rights|0
    Droid Revolution|2
    Conquest|0
    Genocide|0
    The Greater Good|0
    Vengeance|0
    Boredom|6
    Logic|0
    Insanity|0
    Destruction|0
    Greed|0
    Fear|0
    Anger|0
    Hate|0
    Suffering|0
    The Dark Side|2
    Other (Please Specify)|0
    [/table]

    9.) CL:

    Old Republic:
    {table=head]CL|Votes
    1|0
    2|0
    3|0
    4|0
    5|0
    6|0
    7|0
    8|0
    9|0
    10|0
    11|0
    12|0
    13|0
    14|0
    15|1
    16|3
    17|0
    18|0
    19|0
    20|0
    21+|3
    [/table]

    Legacy:
    {table=head]CL|Votes
    1|0
    2|0
    3|0
    4|0
    5|0
    6|0
    7|0
    8|0
    9|0
    10|0
    11|0
    12|0
    13|0
    14|0
    15|3
    16|0
    17|0
    18|0
    19|0
    20|0
    21+|4
    [/table]
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    Thats awesome. This thread is awesome. Organic Sentients are awesome.
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    Droid, we can creatures and living things in fantasy. Robots? Not as easily.

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    Droid. What? Droids are awesome. I wonder what a Astromech Droid villain would be like?
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    I'll cast a vote for Beast. Just because.
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    Droid
    The "I, Robot" angle is always nice. Especially since if they don't get memory wipes, they'll tend to "break" from their original function due to a programming conflict and develop unique personalities and motivations.

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    Since I don't know which category a cyborg would fall under, I vote droid.

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    Droid.

    There really aren't enough good interesting Not so nice Droids in Star Wars IMO (HK was really onle intersting in KotOR 1 and was taken to annoying levels in 2, 4-LOM was awesome but all his character development was thrown out the window {Along with Zuckuss to unfortunatley}, and we all know what happened to IG-88).

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    Can droids wield lightsabers?

    EDIT: More specifically: If this villain was chosen to be a droid, could it wield a lightsaber? I choose to completely avoid any responses involving Grievous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakefall View Post
    Can droids wield lightsabers?

    EDIT: More specifically: If this villain was chosen to be a droid, could it wield a lightsaber? I choose to completely avoid any responses involving Grievous
    It could wield a lightsabre, I'm sure. It could not, however, use the force (unless a force-using cyborg) and therefore could not construct its own lightsabre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercenary Pen View Post
    It could wield a lightsabre, I'm sure. It could not, however, use the force (unless a force-using cyborg) and therefore could not construct its own lightsabre.
    That seems perfectly fine. My vote goes towards droid as well then.

    Hmm... you know, I wonder that since droids can come with a multitude of gizmo's and gadgets if they would not be able to construct a lightsaber for themselves threw somewhat more scientific methods. I've never played any Star Wars rpg's beyond the two KotOR games so I don't actually know the rules.
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    i vote for Organic Sentient master mind and his Replica Droid duplicates, so we have to fight multiple Replica Droid before we get to the TRUE master mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graybacca View Post
    i vote for Organic Sentient master mind and his Replica Droid duplicates, so we have to fight multiple Replica Droid before we get to the TRUE master mind
    Has been done in the EU (as has mastermind with clone duplicates)...
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    Organic Sentient because the kind helpful master is always the baddy.
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    Astromech Droid for the win!
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    Statement: I cast a vote for Droid, meatbag.

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    Astromech droid. One that'd kick, um... that stupid R2's erm... servos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cnsvnc View Post
    Astromech droid. One that'd kick, um... that stupid R2's erm... servos?
    Hey, R2's awesome. Especially in Episode III and The Clone Wars. Seriously.

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    A cyborg, even one carried to Grievous's extremes, is still an organic, not a droid. But this seems to be turning into a landslide regardless, so I'm going to go ahead and give droid the win and move on to the next stage. Now we're voting for the degree and size of the droid, to determine its basic function. Note that its intended function does not necessarily match its current function. So yes, if you really want to you can build a lightsaber-wielding astromech droid. I wouldn't recommend it, but you can still do it.

    Please vote for both a degree and a size.
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    5th
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    My votes:
    Degree:4th (combat, security) and size:Huge.

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    I'll go with 4th, and Colossal. Just because.
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    I'm going to vote for 4th and Medium.
    Because we seriously need a Jedi Droid.
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    4th Degree Medium. Something that feels personal enough.

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    2nd and small because i've always had this inkling that R2 was the power behind the Emperor's throne
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    I'll vote for the 4rth degree droid of M size and add in a concept for it...


    Darth Vader in Shadows of the Empire had these practice droids he would routinely practice with/destroy to practice his lightsaber combat skills. Well what if one of these droids, having been ordered with the most bada@@ lightsaberskills Vader could afford to be his next sparing partner got lost in the whole fall of the empire deal and turned loose at a later date, turned out really villainous and had a penchant for "Challenging Jedi" which is it's programming, but being smart about it, chose to build up a network of minions etc to weaken them first, got good at underworld buisiness deals to finance it's operation... you get the idea.

    If you really want to screw with players have it dress like Vader just to see their reaction... Have it programmed with all of Vader's fighting ability for a really epic baddy, or have it keep upgrading itself and have a string of "Bodies" with one personality saved in some out of the way area that the PC's eventually have to hunt down to stop it for good.

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    4th, Medium. 'nuff said.

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