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[3.5]Ubercharger
So, what is the standard ubercharger build? Race, class, feats, the whole deal. I wanted to give a sugliin ubercharger a try, and figured that since casters are more my deal, I might want some advice.
Thoughts? Advice? "Urdoinitwrong"?
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Re: [3.5]Ubercharger
Power Attack, Leap Attack, Shock Trooper, Combat Brute.
Barbarian/Fighter/Frenzied Berserker.
Play something with good Str and season to taste.[/sarcasm]
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Hmm. Any good races I should be aware of? I don't know too many +4 Str, LA +0 races.
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Orc. WWAAAAAGH!
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LA isn't as bad on these, but really, it's the classes and feats that matter. It's not complicated until you're trying to get into the upper thousands. Standard melee races all generally work(Orc, Dwarf, Human, Half-Ogre). Centaur is incredible, if you can afford the adjustments.
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Fair enough. I might give Neanderthal a shot, for the flavor (I REALLY like sugliin). Maybe Orc or Half-Giant though... hmm....
Thanks for the aid guys. Appreciate it.
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Orc also allows you to take the Headless Charge feat, for another doubling. The sick thing about Ubercharger is stacking on multipliers, rather than static damage. When you are doing something like 36x PA damage, you know you are doing something right (or terribly terribly wrong!).
Also, gear includes a Valourous (+1, Unapproachable East?) weapon which doubles damage on a charge.
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Or use Exalted Cheese (some people makes Righteous Fury work that way).
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I have to say that uberchargers don't work very well in my experience. Basically they turn every battle into a binary solution set:
a) You charge and hit! You kill everything.
b) You don't charge and hit! You're useless.
Since uberchargers deal such ridiculous damage, there's no real in-between where you only damage the target - either your trick works and you wipe it out, or you can't do anything. It's all or nothing, and leads to really uneven battles.
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2008-12-15, 11:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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True. You can overcome this in two ways:
- Make your party slightly focused (magic, buffs, and so on) on allow you charge - meh... from one-trick pony to one-trick ponies
-Take the four essential ubercharger feats and then focus on something else. I my experience, good Fighters are half-ubercharger half combat reflexes cheese (not the unique way to do a good meleer obviously but..).Last edited by Kaiyanwang; 2008-12-15 at 11:19 AM.
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What book is Shock trooper from anyway?
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Battle Jump is a regional feat from the Taer region, which is part of Thay(occupied). Taer civilization is mostly Rashami in decent, IIRC. Rashami are human. Nothing says you have to be a gnoll. A human who lived amongst gnolls or studied gnolls in any way could learn the technique. You'd probably be Rashami though, but there is nothing wrong with that (*cough* oppressed peoples plot device *cough*).
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I didn't see it on here, but also under the "ubercharger" build is a mounted character. Probably Paladin/Cavalier with Mounted Combat/Ride-by Attack/Spirited Charge, wielding a lance. Cast Rhino's Rush, power attack while two-handing the lance. Throw in whatever other PA/charge enhancing feats you want.
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Taers are a separate race detailed in Unapproachable East, the region was changed to The Icerim Mountains in PGtF, but it's still a race-specific feat. Just like a Human can't take Kn: Local ranks to pick up Otherworldly, it is impossible to take Battle Jump on a non-Taer. They have two Giant racial hit dice and a +1 LA, not really worth it considering the Complete Champion's Lion Totem Barbarian gets Pounce at level 1.
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While quite true, the ubercharger feats and basic attack plan are pretty solid for melee tankers. I was just looking for the stuff that makes a melee guy great at charging to open combat with. In my estimation, if I can charge and deal 2d8+65 damage, I should be pretty decent afterwards (big two handed weapon+good strength=moderately decent melee guy). Besides, what at level 8 is going to die to 2d8+65? Really? It'll just hurt like hell, not die in one swing.
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Just "buff" the Frenzied Berserker with Levitate pre-battle. Then at the end the wizard can raise up the FB until frenzy ends. This does mean you'll want a way of healing at a range, but that's a better problem to have to fix than a Frenzied Berserker with no foes left.
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Ah, I'd call that a charger rather than an ubercharger.
A charger can charge and do lots of damage, but only spends a few feats on it and can do other things too. An ubercharger is a one-trick pony that does absolutely nothing except charge, but can hit for truly silly numbers (anywhere from hundreds to thousands, depending on level and permissiveness of the DM).
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