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2011-10-01, 12:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerStrictly speaking, that'd be Nabu commandeering the body, making the wearer into Doctor Fate.Last edited by The Bushranger; 2011-10-01 at 12:24 AM.
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2011-10-01, 12:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerYeah yeah, I don't know enough about Doctor Fate to remember the name of the entity involved I'm afraid. This show is the first I've seen of him in any detail.
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2011-10-01, 01:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Probably the first episode I've seen since that episode with psymon (or whatever the guy with the visible brain is). I still can't personally feel like I care about any of the characters though, for some reason it's not the same as watching characters interact in Batman Beyond or Justice League/JL Unlimited.*
I liked it. Particularly enjoyed Artemis, I know Robin is, like, 14 but they've managed to make him annoying in this episode. Is he always like this in the cartoon? Anyway, love the dynamic between Atremis and her sister, probably the only character I find interesting in the core group of kids.
Still wish I could see more of the Light members, and I'm guessing Vandal Savage is either the leader or a high ranking member because they have a toy of him in the Young Justice line.
*I know, I know...probably nostalgia factor kicking in, and the fact that I haven't watched alot of YJ episodes compared to me seeing every Batman Beyond episode...It just doesn't feel like any of the characters feel fleshed out enough or given exciting/meaningful personality traits besides Artemis.Last edited by Elrik; 2011-10-01 at 01:05 AM. Reason: Holy cow, didn't think about that for a second.
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2011-10-01, 01:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerWell to be fair, she was alone against two incredibly powered androids, had no weapons and no powers and her only friends were minutes away from dying. I can understand having a panic attack in a situation like that.
And poor Reddy. I hope T.O. Morrow doesn't mess with him too badly.
I also liked the Barbara Gordon cameo.Two by two, hands of blue.
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2011-10-01, 02:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerNot the best episode. I agree with whoever said Robin was annoying here. I usually like Robin, but in this episode he kind of grated on my nerves. I also agree with Mutant Sheep in that I was expecting her to take the Helmet.
I also wondered. Why didn't Robin just stick a batarang in to complete the circuit? Are they still called batarangs when Robin uses them?Avatar by Elagune
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2011-10-01, 07:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Having watched the episode last night after logging off, my thoughts:
SpoilerPretty brazen, aren't you Dick?
Artemis, you need either to choose a superhero name or ditch the mask. Using the same name for both your real identity and secret idenity won't fool anybody.
Hmm. That's...well, probably nothing. Specifically, that in every other instance of Zeta Beam transportation seen so far, the AI speaks the name of the person being transported and their ID number, then transports them. The phone booth, however, transported Artemis before naming and identifying her. Probably just an animation error, but the strict quality of everything else in the series is enough to make me wonder. Just a bit.
How did Artemis know the circuit had to be completed? I'd assumed Robin was talking to himself there. I guess they had an open com circuit?
As for the "WHY U NO TAKE FATE" questions, the answer is simple, IC and OOC. IC, does Artemis even know that the helmet does anything? ....wait, this is Kid Flash's souvenir, he's probably bragged to the heavens about it...but barring that, she wasn't even on the team at the time, was she? It's completely possible that for all she knows (again barring Wally's big mouth) it's just the top part of a shiny suit. OOC, Artemis doesn't have superpowers or use magic, so using it would be unsuited to her character. An arrow, however, would be expected to catch her eye...
...and I'll add that I'll give the production team mad props for having "Wally's Souvenir Shelf" be more than just window-dressing. It can be assumed now that everything on that shelf is a potential Chekov's Gun (Chekov's Armoury?).
And the ending...
Spoiler...who would have ever imagined the Mole was RED TORNADO?!Last edited by The Bushranger; 2011-10-01 at 07:29 PM. Reason: fixing Robin's name
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2011-10-01, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerArtemis was on the team at that time, I think it was her second episode. She gave Wally a hard time about keeping the helmet but still not believing in magic at the end of the ep.Last edited by RedBeardJim; 2011-10-01 at 09:28 PM.
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2011-10-02, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerI definently didn't think the mole was Red Tornado. I was thinking it'd be Superboy, and it'd turn out he has a chip of some sort implanted into his brain letting The Light see what he sees, and know what he knows.
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2011-10-02, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerGuys, the mole isn't Red Tornado. If he was the mole they wouldn't need to reprogram him. Also, I don't read a lot of DC comics but I'm assuming there's an earth elemental too?
And I still think Robin's wordplay is less annoying than "Hello Megan! *facepalm*". Megan's not even her name!Last edited by Prime32; 2011-10-02 at 06:50 PM.
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2011-10-02, 07:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Er, yes it is. That's the human-sounding version of her name she uses for her secret identity.
And yeah, I've gotta disagree. I'm not even particularly bothered by Megan's little catchphrase, but Robin making up words with no meaning and pretending they mean something - usually without even being clear on what that is - annoys me to no end.
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2011-10-02, 08:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-02, 11:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerI don't recall one. There's Red Tornado, Red Inferno and Red Torpedo, which I think is a stupid name and should have been Red Tsunami.
SpoilerAlso, being a mole is actually Red Tornado's origin. But even knowing that I didn't suspect him, since I assumed it already happened.Two by two, hands of blue.
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2011-10-03, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-03, 12:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2011-10-05, 12:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Well...
SpoilerDon't open the second spoiler unless you don't mind a future episode being spoiled as well as what's going on now: the upcoming episode "Humanity"...
Spoiler...has its description on the show's Wikipedia page already:
Originally Posted by List of Young Justice episodesLast edited by The Bushranger; 2011-10-05 at 12:49 AM.
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2011-10-07, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerThat was cool. Ending of episode was funny. French brain was just so stupidly silly. I almost thought the ape was Gorilla Grodd. Then I realized he'd have laughed at the inferior human methods, not run around with a minigun.
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I love Captain Marvel. Surprised he didn't try the Shazam move on the enemy (everytime he yells Shazam a bolt of lightning appears above him).
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So he could attempt to yell while enemy jumping over him or something.
He once defeated a dude by saying it multiple times: if he was hit, he reverts to other form (if super hero form, then kid form). But the lighting hurts like actually being struck by lightning so it can defeat almost anything.
They did him well in the new episiode.
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2011-10-07, 10:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, I was expecting him to say it when
Spoilerhe could talk but was otherwise immobilized. If it blew up the base, cool. If he turned back into Bill Batson, then the collar wouldn't fit anymore and he could say Shazam AGAIN, which would break the collar because its magic.
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2011-10-08, 12:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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So, I didn't know the brain was going to make an appearance, but when I basically un muted my TV tonight and heard a french accent I was like, "Look, another villain I know from a previous DC show!"*
I also saw captain Marvel and a tiger and I thought, "they're going to make a Tawky Tawny reference, I just know it, by the end of this episode" and at the end I was happy that I wasn't wrong about that.
Captain Marvel needs to be explored more in the DC comics section of things, especially his villains (come on, he has a short, stalky scientist, a mind controlling worm, and a guy powered by satan)
SpoilerOh, and I loved it when Cap went home and talked about his day. Grown superhero acting like an excited ten year old. Awesome.
*He was in Teen Titans
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2011-10-08, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Missed the episode last night, but caught it on a Youtube today.
SpoilerVery good episode I'd say. The entire issue of having the team learn about the mole and react the way they did makes total sense, and was a good way to test Aqualad's leadership and the rest of the team's maturity. Though perhaps it shouldn't have been resolved in just a single episode, but on the flip side I guess that's better than dragging it out for too long.
And yeah, having Captain Marvel with the team was a great idea. I wonder how they'd react if they knew he was even younger than they are?
Didn't recognize the villain myself, but eh, that's okay. For the most part the episode wasn't about him.
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2011-10-08, 03:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerI hate how EVERY superhero show has them (the heroes) overreact to a small problem when there is a perfectly logical reason behind it that the guy cant say because they wont listen to him. No, we must all be upset and not even ask if there is a reason. And then there is *turns green* I'm a pissed off mind reader. Meh, I guess I'll respect his privacy then, sounds fair and something a REASONABLE person would do.".Last edited by Mutant Sheep; 2011-10-08 at 03:02 PM.
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2011-10-08, 10:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerI disagree, this makes total sense for the situation. As they said in the show, the entire reason they formed this team was due to being sick of being left out of the loop by the Justice League, and suddenly they learn that Aqualad was keeping them out of the loop about crucial information potentially related to a horrible attack they just suffered that nearly killed all of them? Of course they're going to react like that. That hits a major emotional cord at a moment when they're still reeling from nearly being killed.
And Miss Martian has learned not to mind read anyone except when necessary - that was covered in the first episode she was in, and she's stuck with it quite well. It shouldn't be a surprise that it's become her standard MO.
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SpoilerI was less complaining about the teenagers taking something out of context as much as superhero team shows ALWAYS doing something like this and randomly going "I still dont trust you grrr" for some tiny little thing they had a perfectly reasonable reason to do.
yes, was covered in Happy Harbor. However, being pissed=being mad. Being mad=not caring about the guy who your mad at's privacy. If I could mindread and got massively pissed at someone for NOT trusting me, I'm taking more stuff they dont trust me with straight from the source. Also, grr.
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