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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
I don't see what that would really get us, since it's already "transcribed" over there on Patreon for all to see.
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I guess I was thinking of our work with the tweets, although admittedly a bunch of tweets is a little messier than just a single post on Patreon. If our work has been done for us, we could just link to the post as a "transcribed Q&A" then, and port in the particular quotes we want. I understand that isn't really all that different from not linking anything at all, so I suppose it doesn't really matter either way. If not, then I guess we just see what people feel strongly about including? Certainly, there are some like 6) that feel worth including.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
The whole Patreon post makes for an great read, some questions are more interesting than others but I much appreciate the Giant taking the time to write these answers.
I'm for inclusion by default, except for those entries that are about matters other than the comic (1, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 23, 24, 25). We should also exclude what seems redundant with existing Index entries (2 and 3), although that might need to be checked : I'm pretty sure I knew about these things already but it might be from a book commentary rather than the forum, in which case it's good for inclusion.
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From the news announcement:
It's 100% optional, you're not going to miss out on any OOTS if you don't participate. I will be fielding questions from patrons over there every month, but even then, the answers will be free for everyone to see.ungelic is us
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Admittedly, it was getting kind of boring without keeping track of a bunch of potential entries
As has been mentioned, the Q&A responses are free for everyone to see; if they weren't, not being legally accessible for free would preclude them being included, under Rule A3. (I suspect that's part of Patreon's model; they'll host "free sample" types of content so if someone likes it and considers paying for more, they're already on Patreon to pay)FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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Stop using good evidence and logic that makes sense to refute points, that's my job
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Lets not bother arguing about which ones to include, or not include. Just make a new section, following the Geekadamia interview and the Twitter Q&A, and post the whole lot. Or just include a link to the page.
It's what post#6 has been waiting for..
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I second this suggestion (maybe post "February Answers," "March Answers," etc.). There are after all quite a few things in the Geekademia interview that wouldn't qualify for this thread on their own, and 10 posts at the beginning of this month will lead to a bit too much unwieldy argument for even this thread.
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Yeah, count me in with Ron Miel as well. Just link the thing.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
You are perfectly welcome to start a thread for such a purpose. Put the Geekadamia transcript and the Twitter Q&A compilation there too, if you like.
But the purpose of the Index of the Giant's Comments having categories is so the Giant's comments can be categorized; because e.g. that the Giant no longer maps out combats to the degree of detail he did the Miko-v-Order fight would be more easily found under "D&D Rules and Explanations, Combat Scenes" than it would under "Questions the Giant Answered While 1193 was the Current Comic", or "Answers to the Februrary 2020 Patreon Questions". So individual entries will be considered, either way.
EDIT TO ADD: In any event, current sense of direction seems to be....
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Disposition1 "May I use Elan for my Patreon avatar?"
(Yes.)0 5 Exclude 2 "Do you know how is it gonna end? If yes, since when?"
(Yes, since the Scribble drawings.)2 3 Vote-able 3 "...will we actually get an answer to what the thing in the darkness is?"
(Yes.)1 3 Exclude 4 "Why is Roy the only one who seems to have perspective-scaled footwear?"
(He doesn't, it's just disproportionate.)3 1 Include 5 "What inspired the idea of mummies repeating the words said around them?"
(A desire to shock Vaarsuvius without in-world intent.)5 0 Include 6 "Is there any chance V being genderqueer will be mentioned on-panel?"
(Not really.)3 1 Include 7 "We've seen a lot about most characters' families. Are there plans to learn more about Belkar's?"
(No.)4 0 Include 8 "When you finish OOTS, will you go back and remaster the earlier comics?"
(No.)2 2 Vote-able 9 "Have you ever considered an animated series?"
(“Considered” yes, “pursuing” no.)2 3 Vote-able 10 "...do you have any ideas for future projects once OOTS wraps up? Some other writing ventures, perhaps?"
(Yes, but haven't decided specifics yet.)2 3 Vote-able 11 "Have you considered making a OotS campaign world supplement for D&D (or other games)?"
(Yes, even started on it; but decided against it later.)1 4 Exclude 12 "Have you ever considered (after OOTS is done) putting together some parts of your book commentaries and some new material for a book on writing fantasy sagas?"
(No.)0 4 Exclude 13 "What can you share about future plans and upcoming sets of your "Monster for Every Season" minis?"
(Starting on “Summer 2” now.)0 4 Exclude 14 "Will the setting that you submitted to WOTC for the Fantasy Setting Search ever come to light?"
(Probably not.)0 4 Exclude 15 "Why is your silly stick figure parody one of my favorite fantasy stories of all time?"
((insert Giant Self-Deprecation(TM) here))0 4 Exclude 16 "Is OOTS based on a real table top game?"
(No.)1 3 Exclude 17 "When you first started writing OOTS, did you think you were signing up for a 17+ year journey? How much of the plot did you have in mind when you wrote the first strip?"
(No, and none. (The Elven pantheon being an example of post-planning))5 1 Include 18 "What exactly was going on in Vampire Durkon's mind when he was a thrall?"
(An impression of Malack's expectations.)6 0 Include 19 "Did you ever consider not restoring Durkon, so he would have remained as an undead for the rest of the story?"
(Never.)3 2 Vote-able 20 "Are the three souls that were spliced to V when V fought the dragon from previous versions of the world?"
(Maybe?)3 2 Vote-able 21 "Do you still map out combat scenes like Miko's rumble in the rain?"
(No.)3 2 Vote-able 22 "Do you handle XP according to DnD rules, or is it more about moving at the speed of plot? When you had Hilgya kill Durkon an extra time, was there an element of purposefully lowering his level? Or, his level set to whatever level it needs to be for him to have access to whatever spells & consistency the plot needs?"
(No. Hilgya killed Durkon because it was funny and true to her character.)2 3 Vote-able 23 "Do you have a home game currently?"
(No.)0 4 Exclude 24 "You've done some writing for the actual canonical D&D books. Do you have a favorite piece of content that you contributed to the game rules?"
(Chapters in Dungeonscape, and a table in Explorer's Handbook.)1 3 Exclude 25 "Since you started and even prior D&D has changed a bunch (both rules and culturally as well). What is your opinion about the game and the direction it's taking?"
(Bad person to ask.)0 4 Exclude 26 "Do you consume a lot / enough (for a fitting definition of that word) of webcomics of other authors and would you say it's imperative for "good" webcomic writing?"
(“Webcomics” aren't a thing.)4 1 Include 27 "Do serious "grim-dark" style bards exist as well in the oots universe?"
(Nothing both grim-dark and serious exists in OOTS-World.)4 1 Include 28 "What is Elan's mother's name?"
(Deliberately undefined.)5 0 Include 29 "Will it ever be revealed how Tarquin and Elan's mother managed to get married and have children together? I'm re-reading BitF and a line from Utterly Dwarfed stuck out to me too, about how it was an unresolved plot point. "
(Potentially; but it isn't an unresolved plot point at all.)2 3 Vote-able 30 "How do you manage pacing and timing of the story (and the humour) in such small pieces over so long a time?"
(A panel structure, and a reason to exist, for each strip.)4 1 Include 31 "Who is your favorite character to write? Whose arc has (thus-far) been the most satisfying to write?"
(Favorite, whoever's been written. Most fun with Zhou Bo.)3 1 Include 32 "Was there something in your work that you paid special attention to/worked hard, thought it was really cool or awesome, but the reception was totally different than what you thought it would be - maybe the audience ignored or hated it."
(Most everything has at least one outlandish reaction.)3 1 Include Last edited by Jasdoif; 2020-03-04 at 07:31 PM.
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
Everyone is free to suggest entries sourced from the interview transcript, as they have been for the past several years, and as has been done with individual questions from the Twitter Q&A compilation. The only reason I keep dragging the transcript around in the Index thread is because it was here when I took over for ThePhantasm, no one else has been willing to create a thread to host it since then, and unceremoniously dropping it from the forum's active threads seems rude at best.
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I am a "Yes, Include" for the following questions:
2-11, 17-22, 24, and 26-32
That would mean, I am a "No, exclude" for:
1, 12-16, 23, and 25
In addition to the specific questions, however, I am also in favor of maintaining links to the Patreon Q&A posts, either in the same post as the "Twitter Q&A" or in the next. I'm not at all suggesting a full transcript is warranted here; just the date and link. If you wanted to do a bit more typing /copy/pasting, you could also include the questions themselves. But I don't at all find that necessary.John Ling
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Re: The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
For the record (and in case anyone finds coming up with 32 opinions daunting), providing a full and/or numbered list isn't required. It's perfectly fine to only have an opinion on some of the responses, like Personification did; and to describe responses by content instead of by number, like hroþila did.
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Been thinking here that a great question to ask Rich would be something in the lines of "Do the 9 sides the demon roaches refer to have already been all presented in the strips?", and, if he answered with a simple "Yes", that would make the Forum go full bananas (pun intended ).
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Include: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32.
Yes I know we're not voting yet. I just started with an include and an exclude list and realized it was redundant.Last edited by Fyraltari; 2020-03-05 at 06:22 PM.
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Stop using good evidence and logic that makes sense to refute points, that's my job
Lots of people seem to use blue for sarcasm, I decided I should too
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No to all of them, except the explanation about Vaarsuvius's genderqueerness.
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Personally I think the soul splice answer is important - it has been discussed repeatedly with regards to the age of this creation and with regards to survivors from previous creations. Especially with regards to the fiends knowledge of previous creations.
'Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! “The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!" And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered, crying:'Auta i lómë!" The night is passing!"