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OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-08-03, 08:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Oh gods damnit, we JUST got that cleric back!
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2020-08-03, 08:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Now that's just a mean Cliffhanger, Rich :D
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2020-08-03, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Dang! That wasn’t what I expected to happen. Poor Durkon.
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2020-08-03, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
RC is just like the goblin personification of sunk cost fallacy.
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2020-08-03, 08:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Durkon is running up the score in the "Most Killed Member of the Order" race.
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2020-08-03, 08:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I hope he prepared Death Ward.
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2020-08-03, 08:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Dear Giant: what a fine strip. I did not see that final three panel reaction coming.
Bravo and well done *applause*
(And, well, rats. Durkon was finally getting to "Hey, we have all of this in common, we can make a deal" with his
"Will you help us? Will you help us save the goblins?")
Oh, and I forgot to mention. Nicely put by Redcloak in panel 5: "Gobbotopia would just be crusade bait." golf clapLast edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-08-03 at 08:21 AM.
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2020-08-03, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
oof! oh man i do not think anyone saw that coming!
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2020-08-03, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I think what Durkon's saying is very reasonable, but it all sounds too much like "the Plan is redundant now that Gobbotopia exists", and Redcloak has explicit instructions from the Dark One to reject that line of reasoning. I imagine Redcloak *is* conflicted about it, because calling it quits and focusing on building up the community is something that does appeal to him, but even without explicit instructions it's not something he can do anymore because of the Right-Eye thing.
Also, I guess Durkon's Wind Walk is going to save his ass here? He might need to make one saving throw first, though.ungelic is us
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2020-08-03, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I knew there was no other way this would end but Durkon had me going there. I couldn’t not hope that maybe, maybe, deep inside there was just enough of the goblin that became Redcloak left to see the light.
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2020-08-03, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
What a great dialog this scene has been, and what a mean cliffhanger on this page haha
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
So what's the latest hot take
from all the youtube commentatorsabout how Redcloak is the good guy here?Last edited by Mad Humanist; 2020-08-03 at 08:20 AM.
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2020-08-03, 08:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
So what do people put the odds at that "Durkon" here is some sort of illusion / sending?
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2020-08-03, 08:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Well, Durkon was successful in getting Redcloak to provide a 9th-level spell slot.
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2020-08-03, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I guess we'll get to see what Minrah has been up to...
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Ever wondered how many games are mentioned in the comic? I have listed them all in a geeklist: https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/2...es-order-stick
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2020-08-03, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Oh no!!! I hope he makes his saving throw!
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2020-08-03, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
So, how does Implosion work, exactly? Is it « if target fails save then Target dies » or would a sufficiently high level target manage to rank the effects?
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2020-08-03, 08:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I don't know 3.5e well enough for details, but I think there's a hint in panel 1 of strip 1206:
Na, na, nope. Na gonna go ta a second location. We can sit an' talk right here.
I think that's an oblique reference to something magical ... I am hoping some 3.5 expert folks can parse that.Last edited by KorvinStarmast; 2020-08-03 at 08:26 AM.
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I'm not okay with this.
On a practical, like I sat here for a a few minutes letting the brain process, note: Breaking a parley like that is very bad form, and it is going to cost him his dreams and goals next time he tries to actually parley.Now, Back to Lurking!
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2020-08-03, 08:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Would really be useful if this was one of those stories where every time a character is killed/close to the bring of death and comes back again, they get stronger. Durkon would in a very strong position.
What's that? EXP penalty? ...dang.
(But nah, seriously, Durkon isn't dead. We can't do the resurrection joke AGAIN.)
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2020-08-03, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
I think Redcloak just had his final Kick The Dog moment.
And it appears that Durkon will be telling Thor very quickly, "Nae, tha didn'a work.""Character is what you are in the dark." - D.L. Moody
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2020-08-03, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Long time reader, first time answerer.
Also, I guess Durkon's Wind Walk is going to save his ass here? He might need to make one saving throw first, though.
Wind Walk turns one into gas and has a duration of hour/level.
Durkon and RC never touched.
In other words, holding out hope :)
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2020-08-03, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
That’s not how it works, Thor can’t just yoink Redcloak’s spells as he casts them, else he would have already done so. The Giant clarified that he wants Red to take part in a specific ritual the detail of which he’ll communicate once the goblin has agreed.
That would be incredibly stupid. It is just what it looks like: Redclaok refusing to work with Durkon because he was always going to because of his baggage.Forum Wisdom
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2020-08-03, 08:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
Fairly low, just because I don't know of any way Durkon could have done it. I'm not aware of any clerical spell that would allow the illusion to carry on extended conversation and cast spells (Durkon used stone shape to make the table). Anyway, it isn't really his style.
There is a wizard spell, project image, which could do the job, but you can't use it on other people. Vaarsuvius can't project an image of Durkon.
I'm betting Durkon survives this, however. He probably has a death ward effect up, and even if he doesn't, implosion grants a Fortitude save, which Durkon as a dwarf cleric is well equipped to make.
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2020-08-03, 08:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1209 - The Discussion Thread
(Mass) Death Ward works against Implosion, right?