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2020-09-06, 02:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-06, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Yeah, well we know that talking isn't a free action in this world, since V has lost rounds in the past due to their verbosity.
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2020-09-06, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
According to Haley, speaking is a free action - unless you're "particularly verbose," anyway.
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2020-09-06, 07:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-06, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Given that Celia is a law student and and lives in the Plane of Air, it would seem more plausible to me personally that she has invested in flight-related abilities over having significant Strength.
That said, we have no concrete confirmation that she has that instead of 14+ STR, which is surprisingly reasonable.
I do agree that she is evidently a Sorceror who does not have any necromancy spells given the Hobgoblin guard scene.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2020-09-06 at 10:23 PM.
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2020-09-07, 01:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Anyone think Oona might have Dispelling morningstars?
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2020-09-07, 03:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-09-07, 11:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-07, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-08, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-08, 02:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Further evidence for Celia's Strength being 14+ is that we actually do see her picking up a person and still moving more than 5 feet in a combat encounter.
On page 613, we see Celia swoop by and pick up Haley. The average human female will weigh 140 pounds according to d20srd (average of 2d10= 11, average of 2d4 = 5; 55+ 85 = 140). If her Strength was as low as 12, Haley would be above her heavy load limit. This could make her Strength 13+, but in light of her ability to move Roy as well, I think 14+ is a far better estimate.
I saw it mentioned elsewhere in the thread that assumptions (to ignore weight limits) are made when assuming a magical flight speed, such as through the Fly spell, but as was also pointed out in that comment, assumptions are not made when considering creatures with a natural fly speed. We can also clearly see that Celia is using her wings to fly, as in the same panel that she picks up Haley, we also see motion-lines next to her wings (faint, but visible).
In summation, the Strength score for Celia should be changed to 14+ in light of this discussion, as we have reasonable evidence to believe that it fits her score better than a 12+ would.Last edited by Wildstag; 2020-09-08 at 03:17 PM.
Characters I've enjoyed playing for more than four sessions:
Falgar the Swiftblade
Revain Sumeth, Whip Fighter Extraordinaire
Malvin Firel, Cleric of Corellon, Destroyer of Undeath
Vongur Dorent, Primeval Champion of Poverty
In defense of the Vow of Poverty
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2020-09-11, 01:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
So Durkon just survived Redcloak's Disintegrate.
If Redcloak is level 17, then an unsuccessful Fortitude save would lead to an 34d6 (avg. 119) points of damage. It's very, very unlikely that a Durkon with only 13 levels and 12 CON (avg. 75 hp) could survive such a blow; a 18 CON (avg. 114 hp) is the lowest that could really stand a chance. And this is more a subjective judgement, but it seems unlikely that a successful Fort save, for 5d6 (avg. 17.5) damage, looks like the scale of wounds depicted. Does a stat need to be adjusted here?A student by vocation, a D&Der by avocation (a wizard by evocation).
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2020-09-11, 01:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Looks like Xykon has Telekinesis as a spell.
Oona has (or had) a...jar of bugs?
It's likely Redcloak rolled high on 5d6 damage. Compare Durkon to Hinjo in#480 (who failed his save against Disintegration).
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2020-09-11, 01:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Why are we assuming that everything is average? We don't do that (if we did we'd have a much higher level for Right-Eye for one), he survived minimum 5 damage, maximum 204, and the current stats would be maximum 117 damage, which is perfectly within the possible damage of Disentigrate (for the record, yes, his constitution is almost certainly more the 12, but there's no proof of that.
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2020-09-11, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
That right, we don't assume average rolls, and I doubt that we can establish a useful minimum or maximum based on the damage range. Given that, I also don't feel it's reasonable to make any assumptions based on visual effects of whether or not he made his save--it's relatively likely that the visual damage scales with the actual damage done, but since the range between "made his save" and "failed it" have a large overlap, that's totally inconclusive.
A question that might have an answer...what's Oona doing, mechanically, with the jar of bugs? Is that a beastmaster ability or spell in action or something extra-mechanical going on?
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2020-09-11, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Swarms generally have a Distraction ability, which forces a Fort save vs. being nauseated and only being able to take a move action per round. That fits pretty well with what we're seeing...
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2020-09-11, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-09-13, 03:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
The stone head is too heavy for Mage Hand, and it's clearly not a Bugsby's XYZ Hand spell. Spectral Hand cannot be used to lift things as it is incorporeal. Levitate is not a possibility as the caster is not allowed to move the object horizontally. Fly cannot be cast on an object. Could it possibly be Feather Fall, as that lasts 1 round per level? Are there any other alternatives?
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2020-09-13, 05:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Feather fall wouldn't be able to lift the head up though.
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2020-09-13, 06:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
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2020-09-13, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
It's possible Xykon decided to switch out Teleport (the last time he was confirmed to use it had been SOD, which was several decades ago), especially since he has the greater teleport version.
ETA: Which conveniently frees up a 5th level spell for Xykon, since O-Chul's list had an unknown 5th.Last edited by understatement; 2020-09-13 at 09:32 PM.
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2020-09-13, 07:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Does Greater Mage Hand work? I think it's in Spell Compendium.
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2020-09-13, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Good question. Levitate might still work if Xykon pushes the head horizontally himself, which shouldn't be too hard. Or the head may still count as an animated object, in which case Fly could work, but in that case I don't understand why Xykon still has a dweomer connected to it. Understatement mentions that Xykon could have Greater Teleport instead of Teleport, so that could work too. Unseen Servant doesn't work: it can lift 20 pounds, which might be just enough (and Xykon can have more than one of them), but doesn't work to move the head up a high vertical cliff.
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2020-09-14, 02:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
That's explicitly forbidden in the spell description.
Originally Posted by SRDOr the head may still count as an animated object, in which case Fly could work,
Originally Posted by SRD
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2020-09-14, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
It seems to me that the text you quoted is referring specifically to moving the recipient horizontally via the spell. After all, the recipient can move themselves horizontally, so your interpretation would cause the spell to contradict itself if you cast it on yourself.
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2020-09-14, 08:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-14, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
I'm pretty sure the statue as an animated object is "dead".
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2020-09-14, 09:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-09-14, 09:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
Really?
The Animate Objects spell doesn't say it grants that. It doesn't grant Cha 1 or Wis 1, for instance.Last edited by Quartz; 2020-09-14 at 09:59 AM.
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2020-09-14, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Class and Level Geekery XVII - When you Wish upon a Stat...
The spell turns the creature into an animated object which is a creature of type construct (and has a Wis and Cha of 1).
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