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2022-07-29, 06:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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College of the chameleon:
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Power: A
I love it! the only bad thing here is divine strike not affecting spells.
Top - notch versatility, amazing flexibility, and specialization all rolled into 1. Not as strong as it could be but that is a good thing. Very good.
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2022-07-29, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Rouge of the hourglass:
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Power: A
Clarity: C
If only I could figure out what the difference between an hourglass trinket and an hourglass die is. I love it though!
Again, it could be stronger but that's what makes it amazing.
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2022-07-29, 09:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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They are basically one in the same. Each Hourglass Trinket is represented by a d6. I think I fixed the clarity on that by referring to it in every instance with "Hourglass Trinket” and rephrasing in some areas.
I appreciate you taking a look at it and giving a fair rating!Last edited by animorte; 2022-07-30 at 05:42 AM.
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I made a small fix to the Hermit, specifying in the Trance text that this feature can only be used during battle (like the Barbarian's Rage). This way at the end of a fight you can't cast a cantrip with concentration for the sole purpose of keeping the Trance state active.
I also took a look at the other entries. I state that I have not run any math, and I apologize in advance if I often reply to some features simply by saying "I would have done that this way..." or with "wow, that's too strong!". I wrote everything straight away, and I found all the entries very interesting.
Spoiler: Barbarian: Path of the Psi-FuryBarbarian: Path of the Psi-Fury
I'm not very familiar with psionic classes for comparison.
Psionic Power Seems cool.
Furies of the Mind I really like both options.
Guarding Fury It feels really strong to me, especially the part where it extends the effect to other creatures.
Psychic Juggernaut These options also seem very strong to me. Maybe you could choose one at the end of a short or long rest?
Spoiler: Martial Archetype: The WeaponsmithMartial Archetype: The Weaponsmith
At first glance I like it very much, even if it gives me the feeling of being inspired by the flavor of the Artificer rather than actually borrowing its mechanics.
Martial Innovator The core feature, overall i like it.
Improvised Innovation Add nice flavor without breaking anything.
Iron Monger I don't like the part of you producing and selling weapons because in my opinion it isn't managed well in D&D, the rest is a nice standard improvement.
Arcane Infusions Very good.
Revolutionary Armaments Cool, but in my opinion it comes a little too late. I'm not a huge fan of mechanics or such extensive option sets being introduced at such high levels. I would like to see it combined with Martial Innovator or at the most in place of Iron Monger, with the necessary power corrections.
Spoiler: Bard: College of The ChameleonBard: College of The Chameleon
Okay, so instead of borrowing from a class, this subclass can borrow from whoever they want. It goes well with the Bard class, which is a true factotum.
Minor Aptitude Focus Makes perfectly sense with the concept
Major Aptitude Focus It seems to me that doing so is eclipsing the Valor Bard, and probably other subclasses as well.
Multifocus Wow, this is too strong!
Spoiler: Roguish Archetype: HourglassRoguish Archetype: Hourglass
My limit, but I admit I don't understand which class it borrows from. ^^
Vigilant Acuity Nice
Perceptive ImpositionYour hourglass trinkets are actually dice? It says that it starts as one d6, but then you say that you have a pool of d6s equal to your proficiency bonus.Ok, this part seems to have been fixed! well!
I like the concept, but it seems very strong. A lot of options, converting a disadvantage into an advantage seems very weird to me, giving it to another creature with a reaction makes it way stronger than bardic inspiration.
I don’t think that the fact you recover the dice only at the end of a long rest is enough to balance this feature.
Chronal Aptitude A standard upgrade, the spell list is nice and themed.
Recalibration This one is strong but i like it flavor wise.
Temporal Observance Nice.
Spoiler: Druid Archetype: Circle of FuryDruid Archetype: Circle of Fury
I like the feeling of an animalist zealot, even eco-terrorist.
Nature's Armory I like Shillelagh and its mechanic, so I like a feature that expands it.
Primal Fury I don't understand if this thing can be done every time you spend a use of wildshape (e.g. turning into a beast) or if the correct wording should be: “As a bonus action, you can spend a use of wildshape to enter a primal fury…”.
Giving advantage on DEX or CON saving throws and ability checks is strong, since they are both among the most common saving throws. Also, I feel that a druid is probably more WIS centered.
Are there no conditions that stop primal fury before 1 minute?
Blade of Grass, Shooting Stars Why not a standard Extra Attack? How does it behave in case of multiclassing with the other 5th level Extra Attacks?
Nature's Wrath I haven't run the math so I don’t know if it is balanced, i think yes. I would move the fact that attacks count as magical at 6th level. Replacing critical hits with an AOE is very cool, I like it!
Nature's Mercy Very cool flavorwise, but it needs a limited number of uses.
Spoiler: Monk: Way of the Rage MasterMonk: Way of the Rage Master
Instead of “Way of the rage master” I would prefer something like “Way of the Raging Boar” or something like that, just to give the feeling of a martial art, but it is a subjective opinion, a trifle.
Embracing the Anger The idea to tie it to ki points is nice, but doing so you can rage only once at the beginning, but gradually you learn to do that more times than a barbarian. Maybe it could be reconsidered somehow.
Why increase the damage die size instead of adding a bonus like the normal rage?
Again, the HP increase is nice, but still I don't know if a classic resistance to bludgeoning, piercing and slashing should be better.
Taunt With a name like that, I would have expected something that would disadvantage hit rolls against others except you.^^
The frightened condition is strong, maybe I would increase the ki point cost to 2.
Iron Muscles Very nice, maybe i would move the ki cost to the main effect, but it is probably an unnecessary nerf.
Embodiment of Anger A standard borrowed feature. Maybe the only problem is that no other feature before this one has ever referred to Wisdom or Constitution. The Ki save DC actually uses Wisdom, but still tying Wisdom with rage seems a bit…odd. ^^
Spoiler: Arcane Tradition: Ultimate MagicArcane Tradition: Ultimate Magic
Unbound Arcana Wizard and Sorcerer spell lists are very similar, so it should be ok.
Savant of Chaos This means all the sorcerer spells or only the one that appears on the sorcerer spell list but not in the wizard one?
Spellcasting Versatility Wizards already have Arcane Recovery, maybe i would remove the “Creating spell slots part”, keeping only “Converting a Spell Slot to Sorcery Points”.
Metamagic Nice and mandatory.
Speedy Recovery Nice, I would probably reformulate it into something like “As an action, you can spend your use of Arcane recovery to gain a number of sorcery points equal to…”, but it is only a form defect.
Spell Mastery I understand what you tried to do here. You wanted to apply metamagic options for free to spell mastery and signature spells, but they come out too late for this feature.
Maybe the result is a bit overcomplicated, I would probably just let you choose one or two metamagic options you know and reduce their cost by 1 point, this way you also avoid the problem that they have different costs in sorcery points, so it wouldn't make sense to pick one that costs only one point and make it free.
Spoiler: Barbarian: Path of the BlessedBarbarian: Path of the Blessed
Wrath of the Gods The damage increase seems a bit high, but I haven’t run the math. Maybe you can reduce it to 1d8 but converting the normal damage bonus of rage in radiant damage too?
Vigor Wow! This is strong! It’s better than a fighter second wind. Are you sure you don’t want to reduce the range to 10 feet (at least up to 18th level), and reduce the healing to HALF your barbarian level?
Goading Smite Again, this seems to me a bit strong, especially compared to compelled duel or to goading attack. I would probably change it in something like “As a bonus action you can spend one use of your Wrath of the Gods feature to cast compelled duel or shield spell”.
The totemic barbarian can actually take a similar feature at 14th, choosing the bear aspect, but still it’s four levels later, so I don’t know…
Safeguard This one is basically an Aura of Protection. It makes sense and is a nice capstone, but is probably a bit too strong if considered together with the rest of the features.
Spoiler: Artificer: DiabolistArtificer: Diabolist
The subclass is nice but it seems that you have borrowed only the flavor from a warlock.
Devil’s Advocate Nice.
Diabolist Spells Seems good.
The Contractor Why can you summon a number of fiends up to CR 1 AND up to your proficiency bonus? Overall, it seems nice.
Hellfire Proficiency Seems good.
Fiend’s Arsenal Cool.
Highway to Hell I need to run some math but it seems nice.
Spoiler: Paladin: Oath of AnarchyPaladin: Oath of Anarchy
Tenets Very nice.
Oath Spells Standard.
Channel Divinity The healing part didn’t convince me completely, I would reformulate it in something like “Whenever you take damage, you can tap into your lay on hands pool and prevent up to half of the damage taken”.
Savage Sundering Nice.
Aura of Rage Seems nice. Strong, but nice.
Undying Fury Nice.
Unstoppable Fury I know that it’s a level 20th feature, but isn't it a bit too much?
Spoiler: Monk of OozesMonk of Oozes
So you borrowed the rage mechanic from the barbarian and little else, and then developed it in another direction from both the flavor and the mechanics point of view. A little off topic, but it should still be fine.
Oozes Defense I like the Constitution swaps, but blindsight is a very strong ability, maybe scaling it to half your level should be better.
Hungered Trance The name didn't convince me, why a hungered trance for a feature that basically “Oozes” you?
Acid damage seems cool, I don't know if applying it only to the damage bonus could be better.
The constitution part is weird but probably fine.
So you basically make a critical hit each time you make an unarmed strike? Seems a bit too much.
Resistance to slashing damage feets the theme.
The reach increase is something more that in my opinion has no place with everything else, you should take something away.
No conditions that stops the hungered trance?
Absorbing dodge Again, it seems to me that this feature gives a little too many things, I would remove some of them.
Split attacks It still seems like too many options to me. At this point I would prefer something like the Barbarian: Path of the Totem Warrior, that lets you choose one option when you reach the level.
Engulf This one seems nice.
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2022-07-30, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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The druid: Circle of Fury:
Flavor: A
Clarity: C
Power: B
It's nice I guess...
i like everything except the level 14 ability, it's SO unclear as to what it does.Last edited by Psyche; 2022-07-30 at 10:49 AM.
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2022-07-30, 11:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thank you very much for the review! :)
Savant of Chaos applies to any spell that appears on sorcerer's spell list, so yeah, about 2/3 of wizard spells fulfill the requirement.
Spellcasting Versatility as it is ensures the iconic ability of a sorcerer to bring a ton of higher level spell slots to the table by sacrificing all their lower level spell slots. My Divine Soul sorcerer from an ongoing campaign raised nine people from the dead once during a day of downtime at level 10, if memory serves. I feel like Arcane Recovery + only spell slots => sorcery points convertion lacks the versatility advertised.
The wording of Speedy Recovery is indeed clumsy, thanks. Good catch! :)
As for Spell Mastery, I thought of just providing a discount on selected metamagic option, but I like my current solution more because it's tied to wizard class features (even if we, as with Lore bard, give access to base class feature earlier) and doesn't result in shenanigans like making every spell subtle.Last edited by Ilerien; 2022-07-30 at 01:56 PM.
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2022-07-30, 12:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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First, I want to say you really put in the time and effort to look over everybody’s entries. I greatly appreciate it.
It is direct inspiration from the Bard for a more supportive option for the Rogue. I liked the time theme and looked a great deal at Clockwork Sorcerer and Chronurgist Wizard. Also a little bit of Ekko, League of Legends.
I went over my wording for Perceptive Imposition for like the 12th time, haha. It’s had several clarity issues.
I also nerfed it a bit. The starting dice is d4 and levels up at a similar rate. It is also restricted to being used only by the Rogue itself, but still can assist others. Now it pulls straight from the action economy, instead of basically a free use for anybody at any time.Last edited by animorte; 2022-07-30 at 10:02 PM.
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2022-07-30, 02:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks for the review, MTX!
Spoiler: Feedback Responses
The subclass is nice but it seems that you have borrowed only the flavor from a warlock.
Why can you summon a number of fiends up to CR 1 AND up to your proficiency bonus? Overall, it seems nice.
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2022-07-31, 10:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Added custom artificer Infusions to hopefully reinforce that warlock flavor! Feedback is welcome.
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Last edited by nickl_2000; 2022-08-01 at 07:23 AM.
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5e Homebrew Subclass Creation Guide - PEACH | Extended Homebrew Post
My Dungeon Master's Guild Entries, Pay What you want
Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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I would like to apologize for those entries I have not been able to address and critique due to time constraints and the like.
I’ve thoroughly enjoyed viewing everyone’s different concepts though!Something Borrowed - Submission Thread (5e subclass contest)
TeamWork Makes the Dream Work 5e Base Class Submission Thread
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Native Sha'ir enthusiast. NO GENIE WARLOCK DOESNT COUNT!
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Tomorrow's the last day, voting begins in Monday when I wake up
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My Dungeon Master's Guild Entries, Pay What you want
Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Bravo and congratulations to everyone who entered the contest. The voting thread is available, please jump in and vote!
https://forums.giantitp.com/showthre...4#post25543174
The voting thread will stay open until the end of the day on August 22nd.
You don't need to have entered into the contest to vote, so go ahead anyone!
Also, let me know if I missed anyone or screwed anything up. First time posting this!Last edited by nickl_2000; 2022-08-08 at 01:24 PM.
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Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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My Dungeon Master's Guild Entries, Pay What you want
Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Native Sha'ir enthusiast. NO GENIE WARLOCK DOESNT COUNT!
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Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Spoiler: Homebrew Subclasses by RickAsWrittenRoguish Archetype – Bladecloak - 1st Place, Subclass Contest X
Martial Archetype – Irradiated - 1st Place, Subclass Contest XI
Warlock Otherworldly Patron – The Nilbog - 1st Place, Subclass Contest XII
Barbarian - Path of the Bureaucrat
Remaining Subclasses Found Here
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I tried to do it the easy way (and logical way for it to be designed in my IT related mind). Use the link for the first post and just change the postcount= to the next number for the rest, thinking that it would refer to the overall thread in the URL and postcount would reference the specific post within a thread. Turns out I was wrong and that isn't the way it works.Pronouns he/him/his
5e Homebrew Subclass Creation Guide - PEACH | Extended Homebrew Post
My Dungeon Master's Guild Entries, Pay What you want
Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Something Borrowed - Submission Thread (5e subclass contest)
TeamWork Makes the Dream Work 5e Base Class Submission Thread
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The votes are in!
In 3rd place, with 8 points, we have The Hermit by Old Harry MTX .
In 2nd place, with 12 points, we have the Barbarian: Path of the Psi-Fury by RickAsWritten
and *drum roll* in first place, with a whopping 23 points we have Martial Archetype: The Weaponsmith by Damon_Tor!
Congratulations to all the winners! Our next contest will be food and foodies, which is the winner by having the most 1st place votes. My Way is Different and Bigger is Better will move to the next contest due to being tied for second.Last edited by nickl_2000; 2022-08-15 at 11:52 AM.
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Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Spoiler: 5e Subclass Contest Wins
● IV-Pinball Wizard
● VI-Luchador Bard
● XIII-Rogue, Tavern Wench
● XV-Monk, Way of the Shrine Guardian
● XVI-Cleric, Madness Domain
● XVIII-Fighter, Chef
● XXI-Artificer, Battling Bowman
● XXV-Ley Line Sorcerer
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Not that it really matters much but Chameleon got two votes, one 1st vote and one 2nd. Not a big deal admittedly though.
As for the next contest i’m feeling some blood hunter. Maybe a non edgy BH subclass based around cooking monsters.Native Sha'ir enthusiast. NO GENIE WARLOCK DOESNT COUNT!
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