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2023-11-27, 06:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Oh my god.
If Dan is actually doing what it looks like he's doing, I will eat every critical thing I've said about the comic going too easy on its characters. So far this is awesome.Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2023-11-27, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-28, 06:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-28, 11:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
it's a matter of power, not just knowledge, right?
It is my understaning that Immortals lose a lot of power when they reset, and have to accumulate it back up as they age. And Pandora was frighteningly powerful, as she was centuries older than even the oldest immortals. "Hope" may have the magical knowledge of Pandora, but be unable to act on it.
Also, Pandora made sure her reset would allow her to be the same person and mantain her connections to Adrian, Tedd, Sarah and everyone else, but considering her reset was forced, I wonder how "properly" it went, which apparently influences how powerful a newly-reset immortal is.Last edited by Silly Name; 2023-11-28 at 11:14 AM.
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2023-11-28, 11:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
It resolved itself - the flow of magic just adjusted around the blockage and found a new equilibrium place to go through. Which conveniently happens to be at the local college most of the cast is going to wind up at, thus ensuring they still have ready access to the greater-than-normal supply of ambient magic that they're used to and nobody will have to be inconvenienced by not being able to use their spells/magical trinkets whenever they want >.>
it's a matter of power, not just knowledge, right?
Honestly, I'm wondering if she's going to be able to uphold her vow to help Sarah Awaken anytime soon.
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2023-11-28, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Yeah, but that's not Pandora helping her Awaken, and Vows inflict a cripplin barrage of intrusive thoughts if you don't fulfill them.
She needs to help Sarah Awaken or she's going to be regularly hit with that and if Sarah awakens without Pandora then it'll become impossible for Pandora to resolve the Vow.
Of particular concern is that later in the scene, Pandora basically says that she considered her vow to encompass training Sarah as an apprentice, which she might not be able to do because she might not remember what sh was going to teach her and, as demonstrated by Mr. Verres and Voltaire, the interpretation of the Immortal matters more than the wording regarding the Vow.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2023-11-28, 01:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Before the change in Immortal rules, they would not be able to remove the dam as they were limited to guidance and empowerment. As Pandora explained, building a dam was simply empowering the area, dismantling it required outside help as it would be depowering Moperville.
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2023-11-28, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
This being the same Pandora who, while being reset, forcibly took control of the spell and used the excessive power to force every immortal to materialise and cast an abomination-killing spell? I think she was more in control than you might think.
Also, Immortals are always less powerful after reset - what a forced reset does is scramble their memories (which is what happened to Helana and Demetrius). That is more likley to be what has happened to her - she may have been protected from the effect somewhat, but I don't think she got away totally unscathed.Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
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2023-11-28, 08:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-29, 11:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Part of me wonders if Zeus is having trouble because he's half-arsing the vow instead of giving it his all. He could have been a LOT more direct telling Susan about the rules for immortals changing but he feared reprisal more than fulfilling the vow.
We also shouldn't discount Adrian, who might be very willing to help a sane version of his mum (mom? Mam?). While it's not a route to raw power it's possible he can help Hope regain her skills quickly, which would help her mentor Tedd and Sarah.
As a side note, I assumed what Pandora tried to pass on that most Immortals don't is her emotional connections rather than her personality.
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2023-11-30, 12:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
On the NP side, the "Elliot's girlfriend has a crush on Elliot's ex-girlfriend who is now dating Elliot's (usually)opposite-gender magic clone" element is getting a little weird.
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2023-11-30, 01:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-30, 07:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Kind of felt that way about how hard Dan was pushing the whole Elliot-Tedd shipping in the previous chapter.
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2023-11-30, 01:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-30, 01:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Remember: Part of the reason why Elliot is with Ashley is because she's similar enough to Tedd that his conscious mind passed her over a naughty dream he had involving girl Tedd.
We have in fact seen multiple AUs were Tedd and Elliot's counterparts are together romantically when of compatible genders and sexualities.
In this case however, I'm not 100% sure that Ashley is attracted to Nanase specifically so much as she's aroused by the situation.
I'm honestly still expecting this comic to end with most of the main cast in some kind of polycule, but I'd expect that Ashley would be more attached to Grace than Nanase.I also answer to Bookmark and Shadow Claw.
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2023-11-30, 02:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
As long as they don't have more than one week at college before half the cast wakes up naked in the same bed* I'm completely fine with EGS becoming a poly comic.
* I'm betting either Teddy's or Elliot's, at which point Grace walks in also not wearing clothes.
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2023-11-30, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-30, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-30, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-01, 02:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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I still ship it.
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2023-12-02, 05:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-02, 07:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-02, 07:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-02, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-05, 11:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
In a comic with some deeply weird stuff the shockingly significant fable pastiche might be the weirdest. I didn't think it was very good and I hope this arc doesn't linger on it, but I do have to respect just how insane it was.
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2023-12-06, 01:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Exposition truly is an artform that Dan knows of.
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2023-12-06, 12:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: El Goonish Shive X: Please Don't Feel Bad
Mist, the dreamwalking unicorn...
Oh dear. This is going to go so badly for her, isn't it?Warning: This posting may contain wit, wisdom, pathos, irony, satire, sarcasm and puns. And traces of nut.
"The main skill of a good ruler seems to be not preventing the conflagrations but rather keeping them contained enough they rate more as campfires." Rogar Demonblud
"Hold on just a d*** second. UK has spam callers that try to get you to buy conservatories?!? Even y'alls spammers are higher class than ours!" Peelee
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2023-12-06, 01:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-06, 02:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-12-06, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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