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Thread: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
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2024-03-23, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Actually, operating your Horus Mech with a subjectivity-enhancement suite is perfectly safe! Absolutely no side effects! Here, try it!
Originally Posted by Who
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2024-03-23, 09:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Hey this is ni…- all glory to Ra!
Yeah I’m vaguely aware of the general lore of the setting from YouTube but NHPs and eldritch math are certainly interesting. My random brain is exhausted from Con rush so I just imagined a goblin hacking and trolling people while flooding comms with Carameldansen.
Yeah, I’m definitely running in less than optimal amounts of sleep.CRPG Rules: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
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2024-03-23, 10:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-23, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Though none of them are super hard or anything, I’ve always thought that HA has the hardest mechs to utilise just because their high heat caps and heat related bonuses are basically asking for nuclear cavalier overcharge loop type shenanigans which are hard to balance.
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2024-03-23, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Ah bugger, lost track of things here for a while, busy couple of weeks recently. Better get a backstory together for Ognen.
On the mech/frame plans topic, this is my first time actually planning on going for a HORUS frame - always found them pretty cool, but then I've always ended up going with something bulky and IPS-N. Guess that's part of why the Lycan appealed, it has that initial bulky defender thing going on but with that bit of HORUS wildness going on under the hood (and the fact that it's a Manticore variant means it's in that subsection of HORUS licenses that goes "okay you're mainly gonna kill people with weapons but here's some fun hacking options to do the thing better"). In general Manticore's always been something I've found cool but not been sure what to do with, so seeing the Lycan having more of a baked-in game plan was kinda appealing.
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2024-03-23, 03:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
As someone who hasn't played Lancer myself, the more I look into it, the more it seems like there is to figure out. I'm aiming Artillery, probably Death's Head and/or Pegasus, but I don't know if Levi's built in a way to make that work or if there's a build that I'm missing that would utilize him/his skills better. Should I get into the game, I'll turn to the more experienced people for advice on the frames/licenses that would work for a stealthy sniper without explicit tech skills, and I'll see how things develop in-game as well. But that's getting ahead of things.
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2024-03-23, 08:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
It might just be a case of picking up the terminology, but just to clarify your skill triggers don’t impact mech combat and are used for the narrative play. The key things which will define your build are the licenses you pick, the talents you pick and the Hull/Agility/Systems/Engineering points you assign.
I wouldn’t worry too much about it as the most important aspects are licenses and talents and you have respec options for those after each mission. As you’ll generally want to get at least two licenses in the same frame as your first two level ups, it also lets you build up experience before you branch out.
Also FYI just checked your sheet and your main and heavy should be two seperate mounts, there isn’t a Main/Heavy mount in the same
Manner as the Main/Aux mounts or Aux/Aux mounts.
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2024-03-23, 08:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
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2024-03-23, 08:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-24, 11:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
If you like Horus then Pegasus is a great sniper, the Ushabti's 15 range is plenty, it's got great mounts, the average damage thing is actually a damage boost for odd numbers of dice, Smargun is a very reliable weapon, Hunter Lock is more damage, Autogun means you can genuinely fire 3 mounts every round and the Eye of Horus is a great counter to some annoying enemies.
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2024-03-24, 01:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
The good news is that every level you get the chance to alter your talents and licenses and every full repair you can adjust your mechs components. I actually have had success with just the Everest as a sniper as well using Barbarosa for Auto Loader Drone and a GMS Cyclone Pulse Rifle.
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2024-03-26, 10:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
I'm looking to move into the metalmark as my frame of choice and just pushing evasion as high as I can as a skirmisher using the combined arms talents and then rolling into Ace when the ATMS core bonus opens up. After that first core bonus I'm not sure if I want to use the ghostweave option to lean into invis or the FSS to stack evade or even drift to a few of the other options. The blitzkrieg ninja pinball mech just feels like something fun to play.
CRPG Rules: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
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2024-03-26, 10:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-26, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
A awrning for going all in on evasions: there's quite a few things that just don't care about evasion, Reliable damage, targeting E-defense (not just hackers, but the Smart tag), forcing a save instead of rolling to hit and even a few abilities that just don't involve any rolling. About half the NPCs in the game can do at least one of those.
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2024-03-26, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
That's a fair point which is part of why I was looking at leaning a bit into the Invisibility that the Metalmark tends to play to as well as bumping Hull and Heat when I got a few more skill ups. Probably put 2 more points in Agility to beef up the evade/speed so I can make best use of my hybrid ranged/melee talents and then boost 2-4 points into Hull followed by a similar number into heat because invis systems like to boost that up as well and having to back off to vent every couple of turns could become an issue.
I think the only attack that fully gets around invis is the pegasus with his "Gun".CRPG Rules: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
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2024-03-28, 06:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Apologies for the delay in selections everyone, working back to back nights after a HUGE (passed) test IRL. I also just wanted to say thanks again to everyone who applied-its really quite something to see so much interest in Lancer here on the Forum and with so many strong entries too! Choosing was difficult but the five players Ive picked are:
Bitter as Lupo "CALIBURN" Teutonborg
Cateran Enforcer as Derek/THANATOS
Zelphas as Levi "ECHO" Royston
ProgressPaladin as Rowan "POLTERGEIST" Holden
Belgareth as William St. Aloycius III/BIFF
I will be getting an OOC link up here later today in the afternoon-thanks again for applying everyone!Last edited by n0ble; 2024-03-28 at 06:26 AM.
“Have no fear, you will find your way. It's in your bones. It's in your soul.”- Mark Z. Danieleweski, House of Leaves
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2024-03-28, 06:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Well done on passing the test and looking forward to playing with everyone else who was picked!
There’s definitely a lot of Lancer interest and people who didn’t get in, so if someone wants to run another game I’m sure they’d get players (and then I can apply for that one too!)
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2024-03-28, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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2024-03-28, 07:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Congratulations to everyone who got in and to n0ble on passing his test. Good luck with the campaign.
CRPG Rules: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
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2024-03-28, 08:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Have fun everyone. Got distracted so oops.
~Thanks to AsteriskAmp for the Illya Avatar!~
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2024-03-28, 08:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
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2024-03-28, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Congrats on the test, and congrats to everyone who made it in, have a fun game everyone!
Originally Posted by Who
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2024-03-28, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Congrats on passing the test! Now to brush up on the rules again so I know at least a bit of what I'm doing...
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2024-03-28, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
CRPG Rules: http://project-apollo.net/text/rpg.html
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2024-03-28, 02:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Thanks all, huge relief having it done! And yeah I'm with everyone else where if somebody wants to run a game I will gladly throw my hat into the ring with an application.
Here is the OOC thread for players“Have no fear, you will find your way. It's in your bones. It's in your soul.”- Mark Z. Danieleweski, House of Leaves
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2024-03-28, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Lancer: The Beautiful Machine
Well... I will say, with pretty much every game I run I'm compelled to make my own setting. I was mulling over what I would have it be for Lancer. Didn't have any ideas, but I figured I'd develop some as I played and learned the rules... then I got a wild idea. A Lancer game, in the setting of Armored Core V/Verdict Day. With the frames effectively replacing the Armored Cores themselves, of course. But while the tech would be different, the world would essentially be the same. As a bonus... something I'd wanted in a custom Lancer setting was to have each of the four company lines be from a different fueding faction, and there are four such factions I can use in Verdict Day. And I know exactly who makes the HORUS frames...
But, I'll have to read the rules further, and also take a look through whatever DMG/MM analogue Lancer has.