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2007-11-02, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
I was just thinking if this spell has the worth to be memorized in every wizards repertoire, or to be picked by a sorceress.. is the area of effect save-or-suck worth it?
i wouldn't normally ask about petty thing like this if i did not need an expert opinion on this... so what do you think about it?
Well, i'm asking because i need to pick new spells for my sorcerer, and i'm not entirely sure what spells to pick. We have a druid, barbarian and a bard in our party..
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2007-11-02, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Stinking Cloud is always worth the effort.
The best strategy for Save-or-lose spells with a Sorcerer is to grab a low-level area spell for each save (Usually Glitterdust/Web/Stinking Cloud) and the Heighten Spell feat at sixth level followed by Rapid Metamagic (CM) at ninth.
But even un-Heightened, the visibility reduction keeps it at least somewhat useful at higher levels.
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2007-11-02, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Stinking cloud makes people nauseated. Take a look at what nauseated means:
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So basically they're unable to hurt you or your allies, and they're reduced in speed if they try to get away (since they can't double move and can't run).FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2007-11-02, 04:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Stinking cloud is pretty good, you'll want to pick some other save-or-suck spells that save against other attributes too though.
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Ninjaded.Last edited by Murderous Hobo; 2007-11-02 at 04:42 PM.
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2007-11-02, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Thanks, that'll help me a lot. Now i don't have to be unsure about the spell selections.. i just hope i'll have use for the spell before long.
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2007-11-02, 04:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
It's not shabby. Crippling if it works. The problems are a) lots of things have good Fort saves and b) lots of things are immune to nausea.
Great against arcane casters and skillmonkey types, though.
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2007-11-02, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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I personally find one major quirk in Stinking Cloud, namely that it hampers the whole party. Sure, enemies are standing around being sick, but party can't do much to them either, since they'd be affected as well. That said, I don't use cloud spells, so I might have overlooked something.
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2007-11-02, 05:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Originally Posted by M0rt
[edit:]Cloudkill's the only Cloud Spell that has to originate in your area. Maybe that was the problem you saw with SC?Last edited by Temp; 2007-11-02 at 05:15 PM.
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2007-11-02, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-02, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
One could also use Shape Spell metamagic to make holes for your allies.
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2007-11-02, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Just fit your team out with gas masks and you can't lose
Seriously, though, the idea is to take several combatants out of the fight for long enough to deal with their buddies. By the time the ones who were left out/made their saves are dead, the rest should have wiped the vomit off their clothes and staggered out of the cloud, so you can mop them up. Or you can wait for them, or you can blast them from outside the cloud with impunity.
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2007-11-02, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
I personally find one major quirk in Stinking Cloud, namely that it hampers the whole party. Sure, enemies are standing around being sick, but party can't do much to them either, since they'd be affected as well. That said, I don't use cloud spells, so I might have overlooked something.
The fact that the cloud persists can also be used to your advantage, if you use it in combination with something that prevents the enemies from moving out. So even if they make their save the first round, they might not on the second or third. The low-level combination of Web + Stinking Cloud can't be praised enough.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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2007-11-02, 05:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
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2007-11-02, 05:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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2007-11-02, 05:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Stinking cloud, worth the effort?
Glitterdust?
Slow, maybe. Problem is neither of those persist, and slow stacks poorly with stinking cloud. Glitterdust it is