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2008-03-08, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Unlimited power with simple spells.
We all know how a decanter of endless water can be used to irrigate fields and run waterwheels. What other kinds extremely simple magic items could be used to change a magical civilization?
I figure that cheap evocation effects that provide cheap energy could cause some big change by themselves, but then even short range divination spells that work like walkie-talkies could work too.
Examples:
Wind Tube- a metal tube with a permanent Gust of Wind effect placed on it. Air is sucked in one way and blown out the other. Can be made as small as a vacuum hose or as wide as a fan. The speed that it blows air is chosen at the time of creation and more expensive ones blow harder.
Uses:
1. Place one or more by a windmill to provide motor energy.
2. Replace the blades on a windmill with Wind Tubes, causing them to pull rotate the thing directly.
3. Put a bag on the 'out' end and make a vacuum cleaner.
Light Pellet- a simple transparent glass marble with Continual Flame cast on it. it essentially works like a light bulb without needing to have a battery to power it.
Uses:
1. Make a small metal container no larger than a standard potion vial, polish it up and glue a Light Pellet in the inside. Now add a lid you can flip open and you have a flashlight.
2. Get a lot of them and make a greenhouse to grow crops underground.
3. Build the above mentioned 'flashlight' into a helmet. Now there is no need to carry a torch underground.
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2008-03-08, 08:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
Trash Compacter: A large box with Shrink Item at will.
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2008-03-08, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
Archmage with Mastery of Elements Permanencies two castings of Wall of Fire; one standard, one cold-substituted. Set a couple of Decanters of Endless Water running in a big holding tank, and run pipes from the tank through the flames, and you've got hot and cold running water for an entire city. For that matter, put a boiler over the Hot one, and you've got cheap steam power, too.
Of course, the cheapest way to make limitless work is with zombies and skeletons....Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.
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2008-03-08, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-08, 09:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
Continuous Mage Hand or Unseen Servant for running small mills, spinning wheels and simple pumps.
Last edited by CASTLEMIKE; 2008-03-08 at 09:23 PM.
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2008-03-08, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-08, 09:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Enlarge object. Solve the world's hunger problems. Also see hero's feast and create food and water.
To know that just one life has breathed easier because you have lived, that is to have succeeded.
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2008-03-08, 09:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
He's got an awesome rating of N-1+3/4 Solos. Awesome exudes from him like crappiness exudes from lesser forms of existance, like mortals.
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2008-03-08, 09:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
First, you set up some pipes and somewhere to sit. Then you set up a handle that uses Create Water. Then, as the waste is pushed down the pipe, Prestidigitation kicks in at key points and cleans the pipes.
Ta-da! We have a toilet in the D&D universe that doesn't require some poor guy having to clean out cess pools.
All spells would be permanent of course.
I'll post more when I think of them, but that was all I could come up with for now, since I was actually looking to make that in a campaign...Please feel free to correct my spelling and grammar. It is actually helpfull for me, not a bother.
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2008-03-08, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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If I were to hazard a guess, it would be my Evil Side. I have three personalities, you see.
One is evil (among other thinfs) and does all he can to do away with us.
One is weak, and does what he can to put ourselves out of danger.
One is everything else, and he despises the other two's existance.
When the ywork together, only then can the greater evil be destroyed.
Oh, infinite energy? Sure, Decanters and permanent gusts can get you continuous energy, but then you have to do something with it. What exactly are we going ot do with these self powering windmills?
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2008-03-08, 09:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Electricity.
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2008-03-08, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-08, 09:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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stone to flesh at will = mystery meat again?
dominate person on yourself + intentionally failing your will save = best way to remember dates (birthdays and anniversaries etc ) and quit addicting habitsSpoilerA Fighter/Paladin will just hack you to bits
A Wizard/Sorcerer will just blow you up with a spell
A Rogue/Ranger/Monk will just kill you in your sleep
A Cleric/Druid will just squash you after buffing himself
A Bard will slowly twist your ethics, corrupt your morals, and make you do vile acts just for the chance to face him. When you fight him, he will have your family and friends fighting for him. For he wields the deadliest weapon against you and that is, his word against yours.
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2008-03-08, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Member of the Hinjo fan club. Go Hinjo!
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2008-03-08, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-08, 10:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm sure there was something in my head about helping the homeless and a Sustaining Spoon...
Please feel free to correct my spelling and grammar. It is actually helpfull for me, not a bother.
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2008-03-08, 10:06 PM (ISO 8601)
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"What about hte homeless?" "We'll worry about them later." "No, the homeless could pull the rickshaw!"
Oh, cast mount. Voila, one horsepower of free energy.
Cast it again.
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2008-03-08, 10:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
Inspired by a different thread...
Use a Wall of Force to stop an enemy invading by jumping or flying over those castle walls.Please feel free to correct my spelling and grammar. It is actually helpfull for me, not a bother.
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2008-03-08, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
prestidigitation, run your own laundry business, and we all know how much medevial society loved cleanliness.
I would be a procrastinator, but I keep putting it off.
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2008-03-08, 10:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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I invented the flamethrower in a previous campaign. Bottle of air (or whatever it's called) plus alchemist's fire. Ahhh, good times.... I can still remember the screams of pain as the flesh of those commoners burned... I think my alignment should have been just a little
different from neutral good.
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2008-03-09, 09:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
I find it interesting that people consider "Permanent" anything to constitute a "simple" spell. You're talking about a fifth level spell with a hefty XP cost. All these things you're talking about making (with the exception of the Continual Flame stuff) are significantly more costly than raising the dead.
And when you get right down to it, using a decanter of endless water is a much less efficient way of making a water wheel than just using a - y'know - river.
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2008-03-09, 10:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-09, 10:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Please feel free to correct my spelling and grammar. It is actually helpfull for me, not a bother.
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2008-03-09, 10:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-09, 10:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sorry, just got what BoEF stands for.
Not something I like to think about at all.Please feel free to correct my spelling and grammar. It is actually helpfull for me, not a bother.
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2008-03-09, 10:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
The thing about decanters of endless water is that it creates water.
Think.
The world already has lots of water in it. If you keep adding more, over a long period of time, the ocean levels will rise and the entire world will become more humid. Drastic long-term effects."Four exclamation points; the true sign of a Mad Man." -Terry Pratchett
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2008-03-09, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
Search back through the forums, there was a calculation that showed that even on the "Geyser" setting(Highest) 72 Decanters of Endless Water would take over ten thousand years to raise the worlds sea level. by 1 inch
Drastic long term effects in geological time(IE Twenty million years) but not drastic effects in any reasonable time frame.
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2008-03-09, 12:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2008-03-09, 12:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
Hi
Magic Carpet - pollution free transport
Bags Holding - storage
Tenser's disc - trailer/palletiser/sack truck etc.
Leomund's Hiny Hut - caravan/tent for camping
Crystal Ball - TV/video phone
Protection from Evil - anti bug cream
Sending - texting/letters (snailmail)
Endure Elements - central heating (no heaters/fans reqd in house)
Bag of Tricks (Gray) - childrens pets?
Periapt Health/Proof Poison - doctors etc working with contagious patients
Horseshoes of Speed - turbo boosters
Horseshoes of Zephyr - 4 wheel drive
Ioun Stones Clear & Irridescent - perfect for off-world explorers.
The list goes on.....
Cheers
Paul HLast edited by Paul H; 2008-03-09 at 12:40 PM.
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2008-03-09, 01:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Unlimited power with simple spells.
The thing about decanters of endless water is that it creates water.
Think.
The world already has lots of water in it. If you keep adding more, over a long period of time, the ocean levels will rise and the entire world will become more humid. Drastic long-term effects.Time travels in divers paces with divers persons.
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