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2008-05-05, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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SpoilerOK, so I want to make a Dry Lich as the BBEG in my campagin (expanding the waste, drying up kingdoms, etc., but I'm not sure what base class to give him: Druid or Cleric?
Also, if I do choose Cleric, which god to follow? I can't seem to find one that really fits out of the Sandstorm pantheon.Awesome Avatar by Shattersnap.
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Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Question: Having searched through ALL the gods available, not just from Sandstorm, haven't you found anything good? Not even Vecna?
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2008-05-05, 04:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Also, strictly speaking, a cleric can worship an ideal or concept, so you don't need a god.
On the other side, just make one up that has all the characteristics that you want it to. You as the DM aren't bound by WotC's cosmology.[CENTER]So You Wanna Be A DM? A Potentially Helpful Guide
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2008-05-05, 04:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well... I kind of want him to either have Thirst or Sand as a domain. The only god with Thirst in Sandstorm was Azul, a rain god. Not the best one for an Asheriti Dry Lich.
Also, Solo? Awesome. Can I get a write-up on those domain spells?
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AKA, that is a good idea. An Asheriti would view a desert that spans the world as a very powerful ideal.
Or, I could just make up some vengeful, power-hungry God that wishes for the waste to spread, and for the living to suffer. Or something like that.
Honestly? I kind of want Cleric because I'm not sure I could reasonably make a druid quite that fanatical.Last edited by Enlong; 2008-05-05 at 04:37 PM.
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Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Short answer: Make one.
Long Answer: Homebrew one. You're a DM, chrissakes. You don't need to follow the books like a lost dog. In fact, it's very unimportant except for the domains, anyway. Your players will not even know unless you want that to be a focus. So why bother looking up a god? Just write Thirst and Sand on the sheet and be done with it.
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2008-05-05, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Also, Solo? Awesome. Can I get a write-up on those domain spells?
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2008-05-05, 04:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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What about a Blighter? It's a PrC in Complete Divine IIRC and would fit thematically.
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2008-05-05, 04:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Enjoy my fellow Sandstorm fan.
With this build you can achieve...
Bat-like wings and fly speed of 60ft(ave maneuverability)
Damage reduction 9/good
Damage reduction 10/magic and bludgeoning
Fast healing 2(in arid environment)
undead immunities
immunity to cold
immunity to fire
resistance 10 to acid, electricty
Spell Resistance 25
It requires a few books and depends heavily on DMM, but through an early abuse of RAW you can become a walker in the waste at a much earlier level than you might think.
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2008-05-05, 04:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Awesome, and Sarcasm.
Bagh. You're right. I'll just make a god for him. Making the god is fun, 'cause it lets my BBEG spout big lines about his devotion to the "purity of the desert", or how he's his god's "avatar of wrath", or something like that.
Sorry, first time DMing, so I've yet to truly understand that most crucial of points: I'm DM, so I can do what I want.Awesome Avatar by Shattersnap.
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Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, good idea. Once you have the time, you should take the rites of passage and craft a few classes and feats, too. 'Cause nothing says "I'm damn good and you should worship me for my domains of Supreme and awesome, bitches!" like good homebrews.
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2008-05-05, 04:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Enlong; 2008-05-05 at 04:56 PM.
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Many thanks to El Goonish Shive for the banner image.
Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 04:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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You know, you could just batman him and he'd be scarier.
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2008-05-05, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Many thanks to El Goonish Shive for the banner image.
Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 05:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Nah, clerics can still be Batman, just with a different flavor. Slightly weaker, but hey, if Anyspell can get solid fog, it's still a scary Batman.
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2008-05-05, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sarcasm Domain:
Granted Power: You may use your cutting tongue, rapier wit, and biting sarcasm to shatter someone's ego. As a standard action, you may give up a turning attempt to force a target to make a will save equal to 10 + half your caster level + your Wisdom modifier. On a failed save, the target is frightened for a number of rounds equal to half your caster level. If he succeeds, he is merely shaken. This is a Supernatural mind affecting ability. It only works on people who can understand your language and have an Int of higher than 3.
Domain Spells:
1. Produce Sarcasm - People are stunned by your sarcasm. Functions as Color Spray, but a sonic attack
2. Sculpt Sarcasm - Your sarcasm gets an attitude and starts hurting people. Functions as Spiritual Weapon, but deals Sonic damage
3. Wave of Sarcasm - All those caught withing a 60 ft cone must make a will save or be nauseated by your sarcasm
4. Sarcastic Smite - Your sarcasm delivers a b*tch slap to your enemies.Functions as Flame Strike, but sonic
5. Dispel Sarcasm - Counters sonic based attacks
6. Sarcastic Barrier - Your sarcasm prevents foes from passing. Blade Barrier, but Sonic damage instead of Fire damage
7. Word of Sarcasm - Your word of sarcasm is enough to shake the earth. Functions as Earthquake
8. Sarcastic Aura - You are so sarcastic that people around you are at danger of dying from an overdose of saracm. Functions as Implosion.
9. Mass Sarcasm
Awesome Domain:
Granted Power: You may be Awesome once per day. Activation is a standard action. For a number of rounds equal to your Charisma modifier, you gain a number of action points (here by referred to as Awesome Points) equal to your charisma modifier.
Domain Spells:
1. Awesome Touch - Works like Divine Favor, but touch range
2. Continual Awesome - Give you +2 inherent bonus to one stat for 24 hours.
3. Visage of Awesome, Lesser - Functions as Visage of the Deity, Lesser
4. Awesome Sauce - You conjure an ointment that functions like Restoration.
5. Bestow Awesome - Functions as Stoneskin
6. Visage of Awesome - Functions as Visage of the Deity
7. Major Awesome - You overpower an enemy with Awesome. Functions as Holy Word.
8. Polymorph Any Awesome - Functions as PaO
9. Visage of Awesome, Greater - Functions as Visage of the Deity, Greater.Last edited by Solo; 2008-05-05 at 05:15 PM.
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Pelor, because he is, as we all know a god of skin cancer, sun burns, thirst and burning agony.
Common sense is not so common.
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2008-05-05, 06:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah. I'm... scared that they'll blast me for using such a piece of awesome. Methinks I'll make him operate in the shadows, and then make him Mr. Icyhot or not depending on their relative level of ownage.
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I mean, seriously, is there any feasable non-cheese way to fight this guy?!Awesome Avatar by Shattersnap.
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Many thanks to El Goonish Shive for the banner image.
Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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AMF and a ToBBer or FoI factotum. Proceed to pwn.
Alternatively, Batman wizard.
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2008-05-05, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 06:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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Font of Inspiration. A feat that adds extra Inspiration points to a Factotum, which are his lifeblood.
A Factotum is the ultimate jack of all trades. He can pick ANY skill, has limited casting, and can add his level (Or INT, I'm forgetting) to his AC, AB, and damage, and can also use four IP to take an extra standard action.
As for the Tome of Battle...those guys just do damage. Loads of it.
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2008-05-05, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Ah. OK.
One final question. If the PCs are starting at level 10, what level should my BBEG be at the start, to be a powerful foe throughout the campaign.Awesome Avatar by Shattersnap.
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Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-05, 08:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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If you're gonna play him smart, same level. If you're going to pull punches a bit, two levels. Adjust by one per optimized party member above four guys.
Adjust by two for Batman Wizards, CoDzillas, well made ToBBer's, or FoI factotums.
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2008-05-05, 10:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Got it. Also, now that I've looked him over, Mr. Icyhot is awesome, but not invincible. You're right, by the way. One AMF and all he's got is resistances and SandSwim. But I do so enjoy the build, and he will make a great BBEG.
Right. If several levels above (6 or so people), then it'll be even cooler as the PCs perhaps watch the guy evolve from local threat to absolute undead menace.Awesome Avatar by Shattersnap.
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Many thanks to El Goonish Shive for the banner image.
Give a player a fish, and he’ll probably try to sell it to an NPC fisherman.
Teach a player to fish, and next week he’ll show up with the book, “The Complete Adventuring Fisherman”. He’ll start hunting for some monstrous leviathan to catch and enslave, and he’ll be dual-wielding two fishing poles.
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2008-05-06, 03:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Base it on his actions:
Raising dead - Cleric
Unhallowing land - Cleric
Desicrating holy shires - Cleric
Drying up rivers - Druid
Encouraging treants to destroy farm lands - Druid
Using Beasts as Cohorts - Druid
When all else fails .... multiclass ftw!Gaming session quote of the week
Ranger - You know if it were not for the "1 immediate action per round" rule I could totaly hit someone who stepped next to me and attacked me 3 times and then move away.