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2009-06-20, 06:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Small characters with smaller weapons
A question regarding the use of small weapons in 3.5 with the two weapon fighting feat.
As a halfling with the feat if I was to dual wield a kukri knife would I only get -2 to my to hit score with each weapon? Kukris used to be tiny so would I be allowed to use the full 1d4 or would I still be reduced to 1d3 for using a small characters weapon?
Also is the kukri now a martial weapon?
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2009-06-20, 06:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
Any weapon can be any size. Kukri is a light martial weapon in 3.5 so if you do have two weapon fighting you are using a small Kukri which is 1d3 damage, 18-29/x2 crit and the -2 penalties to hit from using two light weapons.
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2009-06-20, 06:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-20, 06:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
Thx
Can't wait to get high enough lvl for improved critical on the kukri and enough gold for magical flaming burst kukris
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2009-06-20, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-20, 07:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
Or Scabbard of Keen Edges and use the +1 effective enhancement to buy something else.
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2009-06-20, 07:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
eh.. still tempted to go with the feat. 1 feat and both get a permanent double crit range. Also theres that other feat I think that gives +4 to hit on a crit or something
I have combat rflxs so i can crit anyone who comes near me and was considering some cleave feats in order to get more kills
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2009-06-20, 07:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
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2009-06-20, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
Just felt like adding some clarification on the difference between weapon size and actual object size....
Kukris are light melee weapons, therefore a kukri made for a Medium creature is a Tiny-sized item. A Small creature could wield it as a one-handed weapon, but would take the -2 for using an inappropriately sized weapon. A kukri made for a Small creature is actually Diminutive.
Originally Posted by SRD - Weapon Sizes
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2009-06-20, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
You can't power attack with a light weapon (Or rather there is no point, you don't get the penalty as extra damage). Sneak attack dice aren't doubled so your damage potential is very low. Also combat reflexes won't help, cleave is once a round, so unless you are doing something very complex to make the opponent provoke half a dozen times and poke them to death...
And Improved Critical is to only one weapon, not permanently double. Scabbard of Keen Edges is whatever weapon you draw from it. Though I suppose if you are afraid of loosing all your gear...Still here, just a little busy to social post
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2009-06-20, 08:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
The cleave would then progress to greater cleave (sorry forgot to mention that)
Also I knew improved crits was one weapon type. What I meant was that taking the feat makes all my kukris keen so... no spending money on keen upgrade and no need to buy two scabbards (though 1 can be used for 2 weapons in theory the effect would still run out due to time or dispel)
+the whole no fear of equipment loss is nice yeah
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2009-06-20, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
Even with great cleave and you can cleave more than once a round, I'm curious where you are planning to get the damage from to drop people.
Suppose the feat that allows sneak attack on criticals if not flanking might be a way to get the damage, but flanking is nearly always achievable.Still here, just a little busy to social post
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2009-06-20, 09:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
the damage in question is geared more towards weak mobs, exploiting the fact that i get area effect on crits. Against larger critters I can either focus all my attacks or try some warlcok power to channel through my weapon.
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2009-06-20, 09:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Small characters with smaller weapons
Flaming burst is only extra damage on the target, its not an explosion. From another source?
If you are a warlock, melee isn't the place for you unless using Eldritch Glaive. The Hideous Blow invocation only affects one attack, activating it provokes, and the extra damage won't multiply on critical.
Not sure if it would cleave through... But that would be a way to hew through mooksStill here, just a little busy to social post
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