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2021-05-30, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Pintsize kind of has a point. Claire is not being cool by trying to snipe a job out from under him, just because she feels like she deserves it more. Especially since she's now qualified as a librarian and has had all of 2 rejections for those posts in the last week (iirc); she's still got lots more to explore and apply for before she decides to give up on the industry and take whatever factory job she can find, let alone in such a way that it actively inconveniences someone she knows.
Pintsize wants to work at the dildo factory because he thinks it would be funny. God forbid that SOMEONE in the QC cast get a job doing something that they actively enjoy, better rain on that parade as fast as possible, Claire!
She's scolding Pintsize for applying for the job only for a joke, when she is applying for the job only to spite Pintsize. That isn't cool.
And it's spiting the dildo company, too - I don't see how going to the interview and admitting "yeah, I don't care about this job, I just want to rub my boyfriend's friend's face in it and then leave at the earliest opportunity to do something I'm more interested in when it comes along" will be seen very favourably.~ CAUTION: May Contain Weasels ~
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2021-05-30, 07:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
I think I've worked out what bothers me so much about Pintsize getting a body. When I look at Momo and Winslow, I don't see AnthroPCs. They're new characters that share some of the traits of the old ones. Both Momo and Winslow act differently after they get their bodies, and the AnthroPC version of them effectively ceased to exist. It worked well for Momo and significantly less well for Winslow.
And that's where I really struggle witth Pintsize. It's easy to picture how Pintsize with a human body will exist, because we already have Pintsize with a human body in the form of May. Giving Pintsize a human body removes his uniqueness and limits what can be done with him as a character.
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2021-05-30, 08:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
She's not really scolding him, she didn't ask him to not apply. She did point out that he literally will not get what he was hoping for, which is probably nicer than not mentioning it at all.
Claire has no idea when or if she'll be able to get a job in her preferred field, and for the moment, she needs work. Expecting her to be deeply passionate about it or enjoy it in order to "deserve" it is unrealistic, and short term stepping stone jobs are just a fact of life these days. Nobody says "I'm still looking for better opportunities and will take one if I find it" in a job interview, obviously, but it's not an uncommon or unreasonable stance.Avatar by araveugnitsuga.
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2021-05-30, 09:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
I think the concept of AnthroPCs really stopped working as soon as Jeph decided he was going to go with "these sapient AIs have rights" rather than the early-comic "yes, they're sapient, but they're still just computers, which all the humans unhesitatingly treat as property, don't think about it too much."
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2021-05-30, 10:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Martin always treated Pintsize like his room mate who owns the laptop, and not just a computer. Its just that Pintsize has a specific niche as a character that doesnt cooperate well with, you know, anybody else except as one off gags.
Now, Winslowe got treated like a pet rather than a room mate, but he also seems to have been written out of the story entirely now that he needs to have an actual character to justify inclusion rather than just as Pintsize's wacky Apple brand friend.“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2021-05-30, 11:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
I half agree, I suppose. Pintsize knew that May needed a job and similarly shares his rude sense of humour, so he asked her if she would be interested into trying out for the dildo factory before he did. He's only applying because he knows that May has another gig, so he's not taking work away from someone who really needs it.
Claire, on the other hand, is coming across to me as somewhat entitled. She needs a new job and is prepared to step over Pintsize to get it because... Well, because she's not as nice a person as Pintsize? She's shown no interest in working in the dildo factory before now and her sense of humour is very different to Pintsize's so she certainly won't get as much amusement or satisfaction out of it like he would - it just looks like the stupid robot person should get out of the way and let her get *any* job before he does. Even though he's had a body for all of a few minutes and is already trying to pull his weight and earn a wage.
It's not like Claire even actively dislikes Pintsize - although he's crude, Marten has made it absolutely clear that he won't tolerate anything degrading or bigoted and Pintsize has stuck with that so he's probably on nicer terms with her than anyone else in the apartment. It just seems weird that she's being so cold and making his life difficult just because he's got a body now. "You have thumbs now? Here's a taste of just how ****** life has been to me, because you deserve to struggle like I have" kind of thing.Last edited by Wraith; 2021-05-30 at 11:22 AM.
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2021-05-30, 11:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
I dont get this impression at all. She genuinely needs a job, any job, and Pintsize isnt actually interested in the job for anything except being able to say he has a funny job. As she says, if she misjudged Pintsize and he genuinely also wants the job for the sake of having a job (as opposed to for the sake of a joke), she'll turn around.
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2021-05-30, 11:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Right, like when he quipped that Pintsize is like his teenage son except that he can grab him by the head and turn him off without going to prison, and the time he told Pintsize, "It's the rule of thumb: he who has the thumbs makes the rules".
What you said would be accurate if you had "never" instead of "always." (Until the comic shift, and the retcon of Pintsize from property into a companion with it, of course, as I said.)
There, though, yes. I'm not getting the criticism of Claire here. It's straightforward: there's a job she wants, that Pintsize is only joking about wanting, even though he might carry the joke through to actually applying for it. He's said exactly nothing about pulling his weight or earning a wage; he's just chortling at the whole idea of working around dildos (which makes him vastly less qualified for an actual job involving sex toys).Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2021-05-30, 12:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
I think that the point I poorly tried to make is, why does Claire get to decide that her need is greater than Pintsize's? She thinks that Pintsize isn't serious about getting a job, so why does she get to gatekeep and steal it from him, if he's prepared to take the time to apply and go to the interview, which she wasn't until about 30 seconds ago?
Momo got a new body, and she immediately went looking for work to pay back Marigold. Winslow got a new body, and he immediately went looking for a way to make himself useful to 'earn' his good fortune, so to speak. May needed a new body, and because she worked a crappy job and was really trying to pull herself together, everyone chipped in with donations. AI bodies cost a not insignificant amount of money, enough that no one so far has gone without feeling the obligation to pay for it or otherwise earn it.
And now Pintsize has a new body too - what makes Claire think he didn't also need to take out a loan to pay for it? As has been mentioned, he seems to have some money to hand but no one knows where it comes from or how much he's got. She hasn't asked him about his body, how he paid for it, or if he still owes for it - she has just decided that he has applied for a job, and she needs a job, so she should get it first....
....Based on her presumption that he has no commitments, despite not having asked him about them. Pintsize said he wanted the job because he thought it would be funny, but in the past he has consistently used humour or his facade of flippancy to deflect people from asking about his real feelings - something that she knows, after her heart-to-heart discussion with him a while ago when they cleared the air after their discussion about body modification. Seems mean of her to disregard that possibility just because it benefits her not to think about it.~ CAUTION: May Contain Weasels ~
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2021-05-30, 12:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
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2021-05-30, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
You are comparing Momo, Winslow and May on equal terms with Pintsize?
Both Momo and Winslow are very moral characters. Momo in particular recognises that to Marigold the cost of her upgrade is a significant one. Even May, not the most moral of the three, recognises the cost of her new body to her friends.
And Pintsize literally treats his as a joke. This has already been heavily implied.
Nope. She needs the job, and is applying for for it. Her challenge to Pintsize is that he is treating it as a joke (remember - Pintsize does not need a job). In the second frame she says "I'm 99% sure you are doing it because you think it would be funny. Tell me otherwise and I'll turn right round." and in the third frame Pintsize admits that he is doing it because he thought it would be funny.Last edited by Manga Shoggoth; 2021-05-30 at 02:17 PM.
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2021-05-30, 02:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Right? Yeah, she came across as aggressive in her assumption that Pintsize was doing it as a joke, but... I mean, it's Pintsize, most things he does are because he thinks it would be funny. And I see no reason to assume she wasn't being genuine in her offer to turn around if the job actually meant something to him, even though she (correctly) thought it didn't.
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2021-05-30, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
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2021-05-30, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
There is no stepping over him, at all. At most she is applying for the job too. She isnt even remotely proclaiming she is entitled to it, she pointed out, entirely accurately, the only reason he is even applying is because it would be funny. (After all, he doesnt get free sex toys) She isnt trying to take a dream away from him, she is honestly applying for a job when she truly needs one, and pintsize is applying because haha sex toy fart noise giggle. She isnt telling him not to apply, or to throw an interview for her sake (as if they are the only two in town even trying to get hired) You just seem to be jumping to so many conclusions im fairly sure your body parts have turned into a red cloud to land on them all at once.
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2021-05-31, 04:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
This isn't how I saw this going, although, in hindsight, I should have.
Jeph quite likes the "robots as an allegory for trans issues" thing.i am going to make it through this year
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2021-05-31, 05:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Most of the time it doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother some others but this seems really awkwardly done. I think you could make an interesting storyline out of Pintsize growing frustrated by the limitations of his old form or one of doing this for a joke and then realizing how confining it is to be a tiny being without proper hands. But the way he just goes into it and has strong emotions about it already, yeah seems Jeph is awkwardly trying to map real world issues on his robots again and not really taking care in the conversion to make it good.
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2021-05-31, 05:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Oh look, Pintsize has deep-seated feelings of which other people weren't aware, and hadn't taken into account, which explains his behaviour if only they had bothered to ask about it. If only someone had thought of that a couple of days ago.
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2021-05-31, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Oh look they are feelings unconnected to what you were on about. :P
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2021-05-31, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Ugh, looks like this is going to be permanent. Because of course it is.
I already can't see the original Pintsize in the person who's talking to Claire in this latest strip.
Goodbye, Pintsize. It was a good run.
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2021-05-31, 12:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Random side note, I just found the two qc reddit subs. For those that didn't know them either it seems to be split based on whether you are a fan and still really like it or whether you want to complain about every strip. The nice thing about threads in larger unconnected forums is that that level of polarization isn't as likely.^^
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2021-05-31, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
It's nice that the two fanbases can each have their own place. I think of the EGS forums years ago, when there had been a major shift in the comic which had split the audience. It wasn't nice. It ended up with one side deciding to leave the forum to open one for the like-minded, while the author ceased to frequent the original* forum and actually even stopped considering it official and removed the link from his website. Now he's using reddit.
*it was actually the second, I believe, from migrating from Keenspot to GMX.Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien, 1955
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2021-06-01, 12:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
No, she's applying for the job because she's desperate to have a job that'll provide her an income. She may have her master's in library science now, but it turns out (read: it's true in the real world as with other academic jobs, and can speak from experience/colleagues' experiences) that it's incredibly difficult to land a librarian job even with that qualification, especially if you're trying to stay local and not move across the country. That does seem more pressing than "Man, wouldn't it be funny if I did this?"
Anyway, we'll see where this all goes, I guess.
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2021-06-01, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Yeah, I know several people who finished their master's degree in various biological subdisciplines, couldn't get an industry position or a PhD and then spent a few years as supermarket cashiers.
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2021-06-01, 06:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
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What does an employed graduate say to an unemployed one?
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Something Positive is quite unique in that regard as the in-comics time flows at pretty much the same pace as the real time and all the characters grow older (and even grow up!). To be honest, in a typical slice-of-life story it should be fairly easy to handle as those are built from small largely disconnected episodes that can indeed be set days or weeks apart. We only ever get a glimpse at some chosen important moments of character's lives and often switch focus between different people. It mostly requires the will to synchronize time between the comics and the real world.Last edited by Radar; 2021-06-01 at 07:07 AM.
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2021-06-01, 10:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Biological sciences are an especially tricky situation, as in a lot of the specialties there are a lot of associates degree or low-level bachelor's degree-type benchwork jobs, medical diagnostic work, field work for subfields like forestry, and similar stuff, and then professorships or high-level research, but not a lot in the middle (and a lot in the middle is in healthcare fields, for which biology degrees may or may not be useful for getting them). It also (and here library sciences is similar) has a problem in that there is a glut of the degree. For biology, because a huge chunk of aspiring doctors go for it. Given that not everyone makes it to med school, that means there is a bevy of people who are still likely highly motivated go-getters now trying to figure out their future and competing for the same jobs that someone who started out wanting to be a biologist from the get-go.
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2021-06-01, 03:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
Evidently I have read too deeply into a non-issue. The consensus seems to be that no one else felt the same as I; fair enough. I can admit that I was looking with a snarker's eye and ended up trying to make a bit out of it.
As a genuine question though, I have seen the phrase 'desperate for a job' used a couple of times so far; how desperate is Claire, really? As far as I recall, she only got her results back about about a week ago and we've seen her have something like 2 rejection letters? Is that the same thing as being at the point where she's prepared to give up on her lifelong career goals and work in the dildo factory at short notice? Despite the above, I still feel like Claire has other options available before that.~ CAUTION: May Contain Weasels ~
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Re: Questionable Content XVII: "My Brain Is Trash And I Live On The Internet"
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