OOTS #1185 - The Discussion Thread

[Flyingbooks42]

Has anybody else noticed that in the last panel it looks a bit as if Roy is floating because of the angle of his foot?

[Larre Gannd]

Yeah. The two bards are confirmed for Bard 12+, as well, and the fighters are pretty dang strong if they're all on the same level as the guy who fairly easily overcame a Nightcrawler's DR. They'll be fine.

Is there an indication that they are as strong as Roy? I don’t remember that.

[Draconi Redfir]

the multiple different views of the room giving it almost a full 3d view and an amazing idea of location on each character!

definitely a far cry from the old days of standing still in rooms with one-colour walls and not really moving about much

For this particular room, i wouldn't be surprised if Rich had made a small D&D-style 2-D map for it and had tokens representing each of the characters standing on it so he could accurately tell who would be visible and when.

[MoonCat]

I feel like the last time we saw Roy alive and this relaxed was during his New Year's date with Celia.

[drazen]

Don't forget that it also allows for jokes about what the clerics are doing while they're stuck in the cathedral for days!

It also explains why those extremely high level clerics are also unavailable to join them. I suspect Veldrina would have been on board (yes yes it's a KS reward character, but I think it would have been *in* character for her to over-eagerly want to help), and once High Priestess Rubyrock gets wind of the details, she is probably keen to Do Something as well.

[Peelee]

I feel like the last time we saw Roy alive and this relaxed was during his New Year's date with Celia.

He seemed fairly relaxed when he was shining his armor and talking to Haley just after the Darth V debacle.

[Coventry]

Ah, Roy...that hangover will last about two weeks!

Ah Roy, ever the example of "lawful good".

[bunsen_h]

Looks like Hilgya got stuck with an "Intrusive Mother-in-Law, level: EPIC". Serves her good.

I have very mixed feelings about it. I don't like Hilgya; I fundamentally disapprove of her personality and behaviour. I don't at all mind her getting some "comeuppance", and if good example helps her to change, that's great. But being sort-of-stuck in close quarters with someone of extremely conflicting personality generally leads to a lot of friction and tension, and that's a very unhealthy environment for a child to grow up in. Even if it doesn't actually lead to carnage. "Look, I had to take her down, for my own sanity. I raised her again. What's the problem?"

I notice that again, Kudzu is smiling when (and only when) he's facing Durkon. Nice touch!

EDIT: Re: hangovers, perhaps beer brewed by a Dwarven brewmaster doesn't do that.

[Souju]

It also explains why those extremely high level clerics are also unavailable to join them. I suspect Veldrina would have been on board (yes yes it's a KS reward character, but I think it would have been *in* character for her to over-eagerly want to help), and once High Priestess Rubyrock gets wind of the details, she is probably keen to Do Something as well.

...wow I think you hit the nail directly on the head there.

What better way to distract a cadre of powerful divine casters (literally the strongest divine casters in the world!) and their martial support from trivializing a world-ending disaster than celestial bureaucracy locking them in a building for weeks straight?

[The_Weirdo]

Hilgya's Evil for taking in Durkon's mother!

[Ariko]

Has anybody else noticed that in the last panel it looks a bit as if Roy is floating because of the angle of his foot?

So I wasn't the only one who had that initial impression.

[Anarion]

Durkon’s mom is quite the force to be reckoned with. I hope she and Hilgya get a moment or two later on for comedy and to see how they’re doing.

[Lord Torath]

They moved in to help us take care of a baby. Child care is crazy expensive, yo. They're fantastic.

Try it with triplets. My mom and her sisters stopped in daily on a rotating basis to help my wife while I was at work. It would have been really rough without their help.

I love how Sigdi just kind of pushes Durkon out of the conversation.

Thanks, Rich!

[Turin_19]

definitely a far cry from the old days of standing still in rooms with one-colour walls and not really moving about much

For this particular room, i wouldn't be surprised if Rich had made a small D&D-style 2-D map for it and had tokens representing each of the characters standing on it so he could accurately tell who would be visible and when.

That's a really interesting view of how he'd do it. Think of how hard it could be to keep moving between the panels and know where each one is.

And the best: it's easy to understand while you're reading it.

[Jaxzan Proditor]

I‘m sure Sigdi and Hilgya are going to have an interesting time while Durkon is out. Also, it definitely feels that we’re approaching the final few strips.

[Jasdoif]

Hilgya's Evil for taking in Durkon's mother!

Only if the next step is Hilgya taking out Durkon's mother. (And maybe not even then!)

[Crusher]

Off they go!

[gatemansgc]

no "the order of the stick will be back in january" at the bottom, so one or two more to go i guess! gotta actually board the airship and fly off into the distance!

love everything about this comic, just great!

[Epinephrine_Syn]

"Look, I had to take her down, for my own sanity. I raised her again. What's the problem?"

Presuming, of course, that Sigdi actually wants to come back at all. Remember that she's a dwarf and they all need to die in battle. She's in elderly age, crippled, and unlikely to ever wade into true combat again. If she goads hilgya into giving her an Honorable Death in combat over a fight for the safety and well being of their child, that could honestly work.

[elbereth]

I think Sigdi and Hilgya are going to be great for each other with a few epic fights. Hilgya is an independent minded individual who thinks the worst of people the only people they can't defend against is a person who is dedicated to being nice and friendly against their will. Sigdi is a long suffering martyr who is ever so nice and the only people they can't defend against is some one who doesn't care about any of that craps.
Hilgya: "I can take care of this baby with no help"
Sigdi:"of course you can i'm just happy to change and feed and care for him while you take some time to yourself, thanks so much for letting me."

Sigdi: "I can't get my arm regenerated because my dead husband wouldn't know I'm suffering for him."
Hilgya: "That's stupid your husbands stupid and don't pretend you are any better than anyone for suffering for your stupid dead husband, when you want to stop being stupid I'll fix it for you but don't pretend anyone cares about this but you."

Eventually Sigdi gets a new arm and Hilgya stops being awful to everyone who tries to help her.

[Rogar Demonblud]

I'm really hoping Haley was nice and placed a couple kegs in one of her Bags for Durkon to enjoy later. He could really use a prolonged taste of home moment.

Hopefully, Sigdi will calm down a bit once the first rush of "New Grandbaby!!" wears off.

[The_Weirdo]

Only if the next step is Hilgya taking out Durkon's mother. (And maybe not even then!)

You said it, not me.

Eventually Sigdi gets a new arm and Hilgya stops being awful to everyone who tries to help her.

Well, Hilgya's more awful to people that try to do the opposite of helping her - such as her clan.

To people who try to pleh her, if you will.

[Quizatzhaderac]

It's amazing how many details are in this strip!

Haley taking out her jacket, then shown with it on in the last panel....

Gasp! But Vaarsuvius is still wearing only zer warm weather clothes! Will ze be alright?

[Jasdoif]

You said it, not me.

Hardly my fault "take out" is polyidiomatic

[The_Weirdo]

Hardly my fault "take out" is polyidiomatic

>_>

<_<

*Grabs the banana, covers it in strawberry, chocolate and vanilla ice cream, sprinkles some ground peanuts and adds some syrup. Eats the banana split.*

It's hot in here. -_-

[Fyraltari]

Reading that just makes me realize how lucky I got on my in-laws. Roughly the same situation, but everyone's happy about it instead.

You killed your mate and reanimated her? Damn, that’s cold.

The thing is, a definitive No vote now still means the gods will destroy the world if the last Gate is lost, so that threat wouldn't be gone. A No vote and a suspended vote have literally the same impact on the subsequent story. Leaving it hanging has the advantage of not having to devote extra strips to the resolution of the Godsmoot.

If the last gate is lost, the gods destroying the gate would be the better outcome.

When an immovable chaotic meets an irresistible lawful!

Wouldn’t that be the opposite.

EDIT: Re: hangovers, perhaps beer brewed by a Dwarven brewmaster doesn't do that.

They most likely do but Elan has Cure Poison anyway.

Hilgya's Evil for taking in Durkon's mother!

Hey did you change your avatar?

no "the order of the stick will be back in january" at the bottom, so one or two more to go i guess! gotta actually board the airship and fly off into the distance!

love everything about this comic, just great!

It’s traditional to end with some sort of cliffhanger by now. Fingers crossed for it involving the Dark One.

Presuming, of course, that Sigdi actually wants to come back at all. Remember that she's a dwarf and they all need to die in battle. She's in elderly age, crippled, and unlikely to ever wade into true combat again. If she goads hilgya into giving her an Honorable Death in combat over a fight for the safety and well being of their child, that could honestly work.

Sigdi would definitely come back for Kudzu.

I think Sigdi and Hilgya are going to be great for each other with a few epic fights. Hilgya is an independent minded individual who thinks the worst of people the only people they can't defend against is a person who is dedicated to being nice and friendly against their will. Sigdi is a long suffering martyr who is ever so nice and the only people they can't defend against is some one who doesn't care about any of that craps.
Hilgya: "I can take care of this baby with no help"
Sigdi:"of course you can i'm just happy to change and feed and care for him while you take some time to yourself, thanks so much for letting me."

Sigdi: "I can't get my arm regenerated because my dead husband wouldn't know I'm suffering for him."
Hilgya: "That's stupid your husbands stupid and don't pretend you are any better than anyone for suffering for your stupid dead husband, when you want to stop being stupid I'll fix it for you but don't pretend anyone cares about this but you."

Eventually Sigdi gets a new arm and Hilgya stops being awful to everyone who tries to help her.

I don’t have a vote but if I did I would give it to this.

[Peelee]

You said it, not me.

I don't see why anyone would claim inviting Sigdi to a restaurant would be Evil.

[The_Weirdo]

Hey did you change your avatar?

It was as thanks to D.One for getting info from his friends about where in Brasília there might be a specific type of soda (I live in Belo Horizonte; he'd send it to me and I'd pay for it all, if it works). You can read the details in the thread on the previous comic, but basically, by my own initiative, I decided to change the avatar so he's not mistaken for me, given my slightly controversial reputation.

I don't see why anyone would claim inviting Sigdi to a restaurant would be Evil.

It's an Evil restaurant. OLoki Garden.

[Jasdoif]

I don't see why anyone would claim inviting Sigdi to a restaurant would be Evil.

Maybe if they knew it was a restaurant with an Evil chef? (Tarquie's Takeout?)

[Peelee]

You killed your mate and reanimated her? Damn, that’s cold.

Oh, not at all, I'm not Evil.

Also not a magical dwarf, for the record.