OOTS #767 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Saph]

Oh dear. Haley's found a mechanic to abuse.

[Revanmal]

Somehow, I doubt Haley really needed the Glibness potion to fool Elan into thinking those things. His sense motive is most likely abysmal.

[Mastikator]

Potion of Glibness = Godmode.

[Mordaenor]

Hooray for Broken Role-playing Mechanics!!

[Grumpy-Mcfart]

great comic, I love the last panel

[Shale]

And that's why min-maxing is hilarious when you make them role-play it out.

[G-Man Graves]

Oh, Haley, I don't care that the reason you were stealing all that gold was two dimensional greed, you're back on the list of characters I like.

[silvadel]

Yep phither of glibness plus a bluff the level haley has = a license to abuse -- it is like a constantly active suggestion spell.

[HandofShadows]

Haley just went to a new level of awesome.

[Gargulec]

The last panel is cute. Crowning Moment of Heartwarming-level cute.

[Imperial Psycho]

Bluff: Once you have enough, who needs any other abilities?

Also, Panel 5, 'contratdicts', should be contradicts

[hamishspence]

Yup. The first book had an example of Diplomacy check not being roleplayed out, in the introduction:

Goblin prisoner: "Feel...my opinions...inexplicably...changing!"

This reminds me a little of that- only better.

[OldFart]

I suppose is was either that or Diplomacy, and the latter would be beating a dead horse.

Prediction for next strip *
Wizard to guard #5: "But you don't need a polymorph spell!"
Guard #5: "Wallaby darned!"

*not really

[King of Nowhere]

Yeah, the manuals say that there are some things that cannot be done, no mater how high you roll. And the master must judge this kind of things.

There's a reason for that, you know.

[Endon the White]

Another Great Strip!

[Arbitrarity]

Yeah, the manuals say that there are some things that cannot be done, no mater how high you roll. And the master must judge this kind of things.

There's a reason for that, you know.

Eh. Epic use of Bluff duplicates Suggestion. I'm pretty sure Suggestion covers telling people they are Wallabies and that you aren't there.

[Fri]

Okay, I actually laughed out loud at the yellow footed rock wallaby part.

[HalfTangible]

Eh...

heheh...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHGRK!

*falls into a coma*

[tomaO2]

Don't like this update. I don't care how high your bluff is, you can't just say whatever you want and people will believe you. It's a skill, not a spell.

However, I did like the philter Potion of Glibness bit.

For people that don't know it was called a philter in 2e but in 3e it was changed to potion. Good D&D joke.

[brionl]

As a GM I'd probably allow most of those, except the "You can't see us" and the Wallaby one.

[RndmNumGen]

Ah, the brokenness of social skills.

Don't like this update. I don't care how high your bluff is, you can't just say whatever you want and people will believe you. It's a skill, not a spell.

Actually, you can. As written, you can pull of insane shenanigans if you get your diplomacy/bluff/intimidate high enough, such as convincing those goblins who were trying to kill you 10 minutes ago to take an arrow for you, and to make the king himself believe that he's an imposter and that you are really the king. That's why many DMs I know use a houserule that caps the effectiveness of such things, or at a minimum increases the time it takes to pull it off (a month of manipulating someone instead of 10-minutes of fast talking to drastically change someone's attitude, for example).

[Mecharious]

I like how her speech bubble changed to reflect her new powers

[wzeller]

"Crap, how am I going to pay my mortgage?"

That one had me literally laughing out loud.

Great strip!

w

[HUMVEE Driver]

First of all, it's about time!

Great page!

[Leliel]

And thus, the main flaw of the Evil Overlord List.

Heroes cheat.

[Guchalez]

Great comic as always Titan!
With the right bluff you can alter reality!

[RebelRogue]

IIRC, Glibness is for one bluff check only, but still a mighty good comic

[MoonCat]

The wallaby guard is hopping! How long will the potion last?

[Vercon]

Fantastic. Forgot how much I miss my OOTS fix in the afternoon.