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2020-10-19, 06:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 06:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
: "Why the hells are there monsters in this passage? There was an X on the door!"
: "We have to consider the possibility that our enemies have been sabotaging our—wait, why can't I hear myself talking?"
: "Were you saying something? Wait, why can't I hear myself talk?"
: "Xykon, can you read lips? I believe somebody has cast a silence spell."
Greyview: arrives
: "Why are you still trying to talk, you moron?"
: "Of course, any lip-reading communication would be one way, since you don't have lips..."
Greyview: scratches Xykon to get his attention
: "Gah! Finger of Death! ...Why isn't this thing on fire?"
: "I believe the silence spell may be on the wolf."
Dwarves go to Thor if they die fighting a tree. I don't think mere humans can comprehend the intricacies of dwarven honor.
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2020-10-19, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Silence has a 30' radius IIRC. It will not be long before Xykon and the others are in hot pursuit.
The only thing we can hope is that Team Evil ran into something strong enough to delay them.This ... is my signature finishing move!
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2020-10-19, 06:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-10-19, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Do you think we'll ever actually see the inside of the caves, or will we just keep getting regaled with tales of how exciting and complex they look?
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2020-10-19, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 07:09 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
My theory is that Durkon has a modified version of Wind Walk that allows it to target more people than usual at the detriment of only allowing a single transformation into wind and back.
Also on an unrelated note, 10 quatloos says that Durkon and Minrah will make their way back to the paladins' cliff only for the rest of the order to be missing.
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2020-10-19, 07:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
It's a stretch for Team Evil to immediately suspect the MitD and not the dwarves they already know were trying to misdirect them.
Incidentally, the Order don't know that the MitD has been marking doors, or even know for sure that Team Evil has been marking doors, because somebody ran off before they could get that info from the paladins. They've been exchanging 25-word Sendings; there's not room for that sort of detail.Assistant Treasurer of the Haley fan club
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2020-10-19, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Lucky for Durkon and Minrah that they caught Greyview monologuing, however briefly.
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2020-10-19, 07:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Team Evil has a collection of a few hundred prisoners dungeons, of whom they believe one knows is the location of the Gate. Each night, they interrogate crawl a few prisoners dungeons and then shoot paint them to keep track of them, becuse they're Evil. While the others are heading home, MitD shoots paints a few extra prisoners doors with the same gun paint, which is really crappy and has to be replaced every few nights,* but is of a common model formula, before rejoining them.
When Team Evil uses Speak With Dead on re-enters a corpse dungeon (which they believe to know be the location of two escaping dwarf clerics) to realize some of the corpses doors were not interrogated cleared, do they suspect MitD?
Also, how many people have blue eyes and what do you ask the guard who always lies?
* This clause may be optional as the paint-making methods have not been described and are possibly magical, which would guarantee a more consistent makeup. Actually, a lot of this isn't really important to the analogy.Last edited by Jacky720; 2020-10-19 at 07:59 PM. Reason: Color-coding!
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2020-10-19, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
I disagree. There is only one save.
Yes, casting it on the minion or on the floor tile the spellcaster is standing on works just fine. It forces the enemy caster to move 20 feet, which is usually not a big deal.
The clever cleric has a Ready Action to cast Silence as the enemy begins casting, hoping to spoil a powerful spell.I owe Peelee 5 Quatloos. But I am going double or nothing that Durkon will be casting 8th level spells at the big finale.
I bet Goblin_Priest 5 quatloos that Xykon does not know RC has the phylactery at this point in the tale (#1139).
Using my Bardic skills I see the fate of Belkar...so close!
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2020-10-19, 08:17 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
High roller! I only bet two on KorvinStarmast what are the odds on this now?
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2020-10-19, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-19, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
So. Xykon, Redcloak, and Oona have gone barrelling into a fight with Big Bad Beasties without buffing themselves. Then suddenly all sound will cut out, taking out most of their casting ability, and a few seconds later Greyview will join them from around a corner..? This may take a little while to untangle.
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2020-10-19, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Has everyone but Haley, Belkar, and Elan confronted Team Evil on (effectively) their own so far? Roy with the undead dragon, V with Darth V's epic scry and fry, and now Durkon with his negotiation and retreat.
Actually, every assault on Team Evil for brash means has been similar. Roy had the assistance of Belkar's ring of jumping, fought Zykon, died.
Darth V had the assistance of a certain blue boi, fought Xykon, would have died if it weren't for TMITD.
Now Durkon has team dwarf here and narrowly escape a brawl with Redcloak and the rest of current team evil.
Imagine Haley and Elan vs Team Evil.. What could those two even hope to do?
Edit: Inb4 Elan's 'happy ending' is dying alongside Haley, or dying knowing he has given Haley some means of saving the world.Last edited by PattThe; 2020-10-19 at 09:42 PM.
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2020-10-19, 10:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
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2020-10-19, 10:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
I owe Peelee 5 Quatloos. But I am going double or nothing that Durkon will be casting 8th level spells at the big finale.
I bet Goblin_Priest 5 quatloos that Xykon does not know RC has the phylactery at this point in the tale (#1139).
Using my Bardic skills I see the fate of Belkar...so close!
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2020-10-19, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-20, 12:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
I don't think the requirement to "die with honor" requires them to be a bunch of Leeroy Jenkins, charging straight into any hopeless battle that offers itself. If she dies right now, it'll be because she jumped into a fight against an extremely dangerous enemy to save Durkon, and at the moment retreating is the right thing to do by any measure. She's shown plenty enough honor and courage just by being there, so I'm pretty sure this would count as "dying in battle".
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2020-10-20, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
He got Redcloak and Xykon to blow some spell slots? In RC's case a 9th level one. If the Order capitalizes on this, in addition to TE being bruised up from encountering monsters behind the door, they may actually have a chance to do something (whether that's the search the tomb themselves, try a follow-up ambush or anything they want while TE's recuperating.
Durkon may have ruined the element of surprise but the situation's not unsalvageable.
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2020-10-20, 01:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Ah, but it was an absolutely perfect move for DRAMA.
A team member going rogue to do what they truly believe is right, and they maybe aren't even all that wrong? That's the kind of constructive conflict I dream of encountering as a player.
I'm firmly in the camp of "Durkon made the right decision." We've already seen Roy tell Julia that he'll kill Redcloak if he has to -- he's a good team leader, but he's not seeing the big (cosmic) picture.
That seed of doubt is going to fester in Redcloak's head, and crop up soon enough. When they have him at their mercy, hopefully he'll remember that negotiation was their opening play.
(NS: I continue to be baffled by predictions that Minrah's going to get Stuffed in the Fridge. It would be such a weird, dissonant story beat.)Last edited by Ionathus; 2020-10-20 at 01:12 AM.
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2020-10-20, 01:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Regarding MitD, I suspect Team Evil has reached a point where they just screen out most of what he says, particularly in the long term. They'll remember that he treated O-Chul like a pet/teddy bear and was shouting encouragement during his ESCAPE! just like he did when they were dropping him into acid, and that in the desert he babbled something that happened to make sense as a reason to move on, but to them he's been a background character for so long that I suspect all those subtle hints that he's been sabotaging them/helping their enemies won't come to mind unless they really sit down and brainstorm, which Xykon is absolutely not going to be up for right now. That said, if things settle into a lull after this and Xykon and RC start thinking back and examining times where things went wrong they'll probably notice a trend of MitD being involved, particularly if they clue in to the fact that someone has been adding X's. Now, whether they conclude MitD is actually exhibiting independent thought or is just bumbling around causing problems is pretty up in the air. My guess is RC suspects treachery and Xykon brushes it off since stupidity is the easier and more obvious answer.
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2020-10-20, 03:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Not even that. Xykon, only one present at the time, thinks he was asleep https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0662.html
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2020-10-20, 05:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Is this comic going to be added to the archive list any time soon?
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2020-10-20, 05:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Is it just me, or does the story seem to be begging for Durkon and Minrah to run smack into MitD?
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I think it's a safe bet none of this will happen, but a variety of epic hijinks could ensue.
Big nasty fight with a sonic-type who's kicking their butts until Greyview shows up.
Big nasty fight with a tank-type. Xykon quickly figures out the source of the Silence and ends Greyview's existence on this plane, because otherwise they're screwed plus he's just that impatient. (Definitely don't want this happening, I like Greyview and Oona.)
Or... no fight. Slapstick charades ensue, with a Lassie joke certain and Greyview biting the culprit.
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2020-10-20, 05:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
The problem with this interpretation is that it could easily be abused in actual play. You could very easily cast it on your willing barbarian who will forfeit her save and then you can send her to hack away at all the enemy casters, who then would not get a save.
Everyone should be getting a save/SR or they game grinds to a screeching halt because of a low level spell. But yeah the way the spell rules are written is ambiguous. Though there might be something like a general rule for magic Area of Effect that you're supposed to assume whenever you read those. At least in 3.5e?
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Oh wow, there are some players here who actually do use the spell that way. It just seems like too good of a combo at lower levels so I never applied/interpreted it like that. Since its application seems stronger than Dispel Magic and it is one level lower. Moving away from a Barbarian or a Monk with Silence casted upon them seems like a very tall order for any caster in the lower levels. But I'm getting into RAI territory now and other spells do explicitly state when creatures who enter the emanation's area get a save so I guess I'll stop.
Though if I may say one more thing: a reason why Greg, Durkon and Minrah did not speak within the area of Silence is that it was in their best interests not to make any noise so they voluntarily failed the save when they were first exposed to the effect. It's not a very strong argument, admittedly.Last edited by Shirow; 2020-10-20 at 06:56 AM.
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2020-10-20, 06:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
Attention LotR fans
Spoiler: LotRThe scouring of the Shire never happened. That's right. After reading books I, II, and III, I stopped reading when the One Ring was thrown into Mount Doom. The story ends there. Nothing worthwhile happened afterwards. Middle-Earth was saved.
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2020-10-20, 06:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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2020-10-20, 06:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #1217 - The Discussion Thread
I imagine a very significant reason this doesn’t happen is because this means the casters won’t have anything to do on their turn(which is unfun) and also because many enemies tend to be very formidable without casting spells(and in fact may be even more dangerous because your casters can’t cast either.
That being said, if a Cerebremancer PC at my table tried to do this I’d be sent to the ER from Critical Lactose Intolerance from the sheer cheese.Cool elan Illithid Slayer by linkele.
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