OOTS #1270 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[Fyraltari]

Well, that's confirmation that Sunny was indeed the Beholder from 1238 strips ago. RIP, horned bugbear theory, you weren't really credible anymore anyway.

[Hardcore]

Hm, typical way for a rogue acquire stuff. Like monsters...

[Daywalker1983]

For some reason it always makes me anxious when a Main plot could have been solved easily in retrospect.

[Shale]

Well, that's confirmation that Sunny was indeed the Beholder from 1238 strips ago. RIP, horned bugbear theory, you weren't really credible anymore anyway.

Awww, I was still attached to my Celestial With Glasses idea.

[Fyraltari]

Just realized this means Serini wasn't aware that Dorukan was already dead at the time.

Also nice to see the interior do the Dungeon of Dorukan in the new arstyle as well as a bit of the old outfits.

Awww, I was still attached to my Celestial With Glasses idea.

Which one was that?

[Shale]

The one who appeared in strip 664 to warn Roy that V was making bad decisions: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html

[ZhonLord]

Just realized this means Serini wasn't aware that Dorukan was already dead at the time.

This also means Serini probably assumed the Order destroyed the Gate for no reason as well, maybe even killed dorukan either by accident or intentionally. Which in turn gives more reason for her reluctance to respond to V's sendings.

[Oppolo]

In Dorukons dungeon, recruiting monsters?

Could it be?

The long awaited return?

Getting hype for Trigak(!!)

[Fan67]

What strip does he refer to?

Also great to know that Giant is alive and working! Was worried a lil bit.

[Fyraltari]

Is there an in-universe reason for sunny not to be shooting a cone of anti-magic in the second-to-last panel despite not wearing their contact lense? Or is it purely not to obscure the OOTS crew?

The one who appeared in strip 664 to warn Roy that V was making bad decisions: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0664.html

Oh okay.

This also means Serini probably assumed the Order destroyed the Gate for no reason as well, maybe even killed dorukan either by accident or intentionally. Which in turn gives more reason for her reluctance to respond to V's sendings.

Nah, I feel like it would have come up by now if she thought that.

[Coppercloud]

Nice callback and as always, thank you, Giant!

[Oppolo]

The flumphs were also originally from Dorukan’s dungeon, I wonder if they’ll make an appearance helping out Serini?

[Fyraltari]

The flumphs were also originally from Dorukan’s dungeon, I wonder if they’ll make an appearance helping out Serini?

Only if Serini happens to fall from a great height.

You know this to be true.

[mjasghar]

Thanks Rich

[hroþila]

Sunny was supposed to stick around before the lawyers got involved, it was in the script and all. Jones and Rodriguez ruined everything. And the worst thing is they didn't even have a case

Too realistic

[WanderingMist]

Awww, I was still attached to my Celestial With Glasses idea.

Despite the fact that she appeared in 8 panels?

[Reboot]

For some reason it always makes me anxious when a Main plot could have been solved easily in retrospect.

Eh, it wouldn't have made a difference unless Sunny managed to destroy Xykon's phylactery and/or kill Redcloak as part of the team-up. Elan not hitting the self-destruct rune on the Gate would have made a *much* bigger difference.

[Doug Lampert]

Sunny was supposed to stick around before the lawyers got involved, it was in the script and all. Jones and Rodriguez ruined everything. And the worst thing is they didn't even have a case

Too realistic

They could have just read that script to the end rather than just noticing that the eye-thing was in the next page. That would have given all the information.

[RMS Oceanic]

Long running plot!

But also no knowledge of Dorukan's fate at the time. Interesting.

[yes]

Just realized this means Serini wasn't aware that Dorukan was already dead at the time.

Or that she was in such close proximity to Xykon, who she's so deathly afraid of.

[Zhorn]

Woohoo! Giant's posting again.
Always willing to wait for them to take as much time as they need, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting a little anxious about the next release

[danielxcutter]

Concrete evidence that Soon was the only one who gave half a deep-fried tanar’ri turd about the oath, in letter as well as in spirit.

Really it does seem even more likely that it was just an excuse to kick him out of the party. At least, Serini herself might not have intended that but that’s essentially how it turned out.

Yeesh.

[NCat]

its absolutely fascinating to see a view of the early chapters with the newer artstyle, though I wonder if it would be funny for if in the flashback for the dungeon and gang be depicted with the old artstyle, while sunny and serini in the new style x)

[danielxcutter]

Also wait a second, if that was her first impression of the party no wonder she has a dim view of them. They were even more of a disorganized group of random adventurers than they are now.

[Fyraltari]

Or that she was in such close proximity to Xykon, who she's so deathly afraid of.

You htink she was lying to Sunny, why?

Really it does seem even more likely that it was just an excuse to kick him out of the party. At least, Serini herself might not have intended that but that’s essentially how it turned out.

Yeesh.

No? It seems like Dorukan didn't want Serini on the premises either.

[KorvinStarmast]

Or that she was in such close proximity to Xykon, who she's so deathly afraid of.

Good point.

Concrete evidence that Soon was the only one who gave half a deep-fried tanar’ri turd about the oath, in letter as well as in spirit.

Yep, those chaotic party members are not reliable when it comes to making deals or keeping their word. (See Serini's "fun to lie to paladins" boasting recently for additional evidence).
About the Strip:
1. In the last few weeks, the Philadelphia Phillies and the Houston Astros were in the World Series. (Astros won 4-2). One of their best hitters (the Phillies) is Bryce Harper - he bats left handed. I suspect that may have informed the side of the plate Sunny was hitting from. (Rich is from Philly). That choice may also have been made for artistic reasons in re faces to the front for the panels.
2. Reach back to strip number 0032 was not a surprise, but I like the presentation (again, really like the art style upgrades).
3. Final panel was mildly amusing, and very on point as regards Haley "and Treasure".

[Reboot]

Concrete evidence that Soon was the only one who gave half a deep-fried tanar’ri turd about the oath, in letter as well as in spirit.

Really it does seem even more likely that it was just an excuse to kick him out of the party. At least, Serini herself might not have intended that but that’s essentially how it turned out.

Yeesh.

I mean, with the obvious exception of Actual Couple D&L, it doesn't seem the others had any actual contact - note how Serini had no idea Dorukan was dead at that point, even while she was poaching in his dungeon.

[yes]

You htink she was lying to Sunny, why?

Not at all. At the time of the flashback she already had her altercation with Xykon, and Xykon was residing in Dorokon's dungeon. If she thought Dorukon was alive, she didn't realize she was getting so close to Xykon and risking being killed or taken captive.

2. Reach back to strip number 0032 was not a surprise, but I like the presentation (again, really like the art style upgrades).

I really wish he angled it so that we got to see the lawyers in the new art style

[Jay R]

No? It seems like Dorukan didn't want Serini on the premises either.

True, but he wanted Lirian to visit. That's just as much violating the oath.