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2022-03-03, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-03-04, 08:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Interesting article in The Atlantic
Originally Posted by Atlantic
Ah. Largest Nuclear plant in Europe on Fire . Nevermind. Maybe the radiation will mutate the bugs and we'll have a zombie invasion after all.
Actually, the Fire is extinguished but that was still a close call.
Doesn't anyone in the military get This lecture ? Anymore? Or is "DO NOT SHOOT AT THE NUCLEAR REACTOR" considered to be so obvious we don't need to say it? Except, obviously, we do?
Respectfully,
Brian P."Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
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2022-03-10, 09:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Hey everyone. I have good news for my city in New York regarding the mask and the vaccination cards. It's optional that we don't need to wear masks outside and indoors. Also, we don't show our vaccination cards anymore.
It's time to get my Magikarp on!
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2022-03-12, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
I mean, COVID is still a threat. It's still a very good idea to be wearing masks as a precaution.
There's probably an argument to be made about whether toning down restrictions is due to political matters or exhaustion, but that's not here nor there.An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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2022-03-12, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
My line for stuff like eating at a restaurant indoors is about 1-2 cases per million people per day, so still going to be waiting for that for awhile.
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2022-03-14, 06:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Black text is for sarcasm, also sincerity. You'll just have to read between the lines and infer from context like an animal
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2022-03-14, 07:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
That's what I like when I was on holiday in South-East Asia (Thailand, Indonesia, although I've heard other countries in the region are the same). Since the SARS epidemic of 2003 (I think) they put on a mask in public then they are coughing. We used to laugh with them when they showed up wearing masks in the airport. Now, not so much anymore.
We will have to do the same. Even if you have a cold, you wear a mask so as not to infect others.Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
"Magic can turn a frog into a prince. Science can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with." Terry Pratchett
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2022-03-25, 09:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Yes. It's good manners. I hope it catches on for other things besides COVID; if you have a contagious disease, mask up if you can't stay home. Perhaps we need to 'encourage' companies not to force employees to come in to work at, say, a burger joint when they're coughing all over the food.
So the rest of the world seems to be recovering from Covid, but China is not
Originally Posted by National Review
Why is this happening? There appear to be at least two answers:
1) Draconian 'zero covid' policies. That might have worked with Covid Alpha, but Covid Omicron is just not having it. We need a certain degree of natural transmission among the vaxxed population in order to further strengthen immunity. Having 'hybrid immunity' -- vaxxed plus boosted plus natural immunity -- is a " Superpower " .
You can slow the spread, but you can't stop it. Not of Omicron.
2) They're using Sinovac, not Pfizer or Moderna or even Johnson & Johnson. For some reason it's not as effective, and even less effective against Omicron.
And of course the more spread there is the more likely another variant will appear.
Respectfully,
Brian P."Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
-Valery Legasov in Chernobyl
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2022-03-25, 12:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
(I would not use the National Review as a source, just in general.)
A potential problem is that natural immunity appears to be lasting far less time with Omicron than it was with Alpha and Delta. We're not completely certain on this, but if true it would put a huge damper on "Omicron burns itself out" hopes.
Yeah, I think if masking when sick became a norm in a post-pandemic area, you'd likely have somewhat lower case rates for the flu and the like.
Very true.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2022-03-25 at 12:52 PM.
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
See my extended signature here! May contain wit, candor, and somewhere from 52 to 8127 walruses.
Purple is humorous descriptions made up on the fly
Green is serious talk about hypothetical
Blue is irony and sarcasm
"I think, therefore I am,
I walk, therefore I stand,
I sleep, therefore I dream;
I joke, therefore I meme."
-Squire Doodad
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2022-03-25, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
"Magic can turn a frog into a prince. Science can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with." Terry Pratchett
"I will not yield to evil, unless she's cute."
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2022-03-25, 02:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
I link to them because as you will see in the article, they are not reporting rumors or their own firsthand reporting but are quoting mainstream sources to which they had their own commentary which, in this case, seemed worth passing on. In this case, the referenced sources are The Guardian , Vice , The Lancet , ABC, Straits Times and ... well, I give up. There are at least a few more. It's an opinion piece, not an academic article, so the sources are inline links rather than conveniently footnoted at the bottom. Yes, it is opinion piece but they put in the work to make it more than a talk show rant. If you believe they are wrong on matters of fact, please post counter-arguments and I will consider them; I have in fact posted fact-checks to other people's assertions in this thread, so I can hardly complain about being fact-checked myself. If you do not dispute their facts but do dispute their logic and conclusions, feel free to advance your argument and I will, likewise , consider it.
Although, come to think of it, I don't yet see us actually disagreeing on anything substantive, at least at this point.
Respectfully,
Brian P.Last edited by pendell; 2022-03-25 at 02:41 PM.
"Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
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2022-03-25, 03:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
See my extended signature here! May contain wit, candor, and somewhere from 52 to 8127 walruses.
Purple is humorous descriptions made up on the fly
Green is serious talk about hypothetical
Blue is irony and sarcasm
"I think, therefore I am,
I walk, therefore I stand,
I sleep, therefore I dream;
I joke, therefore I meme."
-Squire Doodad
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2022-03-26, 12:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Do people actually believe that omicron will burn itself out? Even the original variant had a too short natural immunity time for that to be possible.
Then again people believed (and still probably do) that 5G towers are spreading the virus, so the false hope that covid is going anywhere seems less outrageous by comparison.Black text is for sarcasm, also sincerity. You'll just have to read between the lines and infer from context like an animal
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2022-03-26, 04:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
I mean, the way that cases were climbing but deaths were lagging made it so a few people were contemplating the possibility that Omicron could spread so fast that it'd trap itself if people also got serious about masking and all that.
Unfortunately neither of those happened, so Omicron is here to stay for the time being.
I don't think anyone currently thinks that's still going to happen, but a few people got hopeful and theorized about it shortly after the Omicron wave started.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2022-03-26 at 04:30 PM.
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
See my extended signature here! May contain wit, candor, and somewhere from 52 to 8127 walruses.
Purple is humorous descriptions made up on the fly
Green is serious talk about hypothetical
Blue is irony and sarcasm
"I think, therefore I am,
I walk, therefore I stand,
I sleep, therefore I dream;
I joke, therefore I meme."
-Squire Doodad
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2022-04-02, 06:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-04-20, 10:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
My apologies if someone's already thought of this upthread: Any chance of the OOTS store getting cloth masks inspired by Tarquin in the last few panels of comic 852, that could be worn under the real thing?
(/kidding since I know it wouldn't happen, but I'm fond enough of the idea that I really would spend money)
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2022-04-27, 10:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
So I guess this is as close to a victory announcement as we're going to get.
Originally Posted by Washington Post
So I guess this is as much of a "win" as we're going to get, as it drops from the news. I suspect there will be booster shots and new shots against later variants, same as the flu. But we are now back to "normal", at least as "normal" as things will be.
Respectfully,
Brian P."Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later, that debt is paid."
-Valery Legasov in Chernobyl
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2022-04-28, 09:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
That is not a proclamation of victory; it is a concession of defeat. The only winners are the nurglites who fought every measure to control the disease and actively sought to spread it so they could rejoice in causing death. Covid deaths will continue, it will just be accepted as normal, thanks to the anti-vaxxers and their open treason against humanity.
At this point, I think I'm wearing a mask as much to offend the willing slaves of disease as I am to protect people. But I have no doubt they'll start pushing to make masks illegal.Last edited by Lord Arkon; 2022-04-28 at 09:09 PM.
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2022-04-28, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
I feel inclined to agree, though some of that is very sharply worded; while things are "better" now, the pandemic is far from over. Restrictions falling is purely out of exhaustion, not actual risk.
And...yes, the reason why it is still going is increasingly because so many people decided to mislead and cast doubt on the simplest means of protecting oneself. I would not be surprised if someone told me that, if vaccinations and masking were at like 90%, the pandemic would be over already.
...I could probably write at length on the topic, but I don't want to lean on the rules.Last edited by Squire Doodad; 2022-04-28 at 09:27 PM.
An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
See my extended signature here! May contain wit, candor, and somewhere from 52 to 8127 walruses.
Purple is humorous descriptions made up on the fly
Green is serious talk about hypothetical
Blue is irony and sarcasm
"I think, therefore I am,
I walk, therefore I stand,
I sleep, therefore I dream;
I joke, therefore I meme."
-Squire Doodad
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2022-05-02, 10:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
I think you're giving them a great deal too much credit. Very few people actively seek to spread any disease. Specific precautions may be refused, but that is different than intentional spreading.
Realistically, it just appears that as a species, we have remarkably limited ability to stop a disease once it's gone pandemic. Early detection may still be effective, and arguably has been for a number of diseases. The former is far, far harder to do.
So, worst case, we've at least learned a fair bit. That may be small comfort in comparison to the lives lost, but hopefully it will be of use for future disease fighting efforts. Perhaps more effort will happen in the future to avoid risk of early spread and on early detection, reducing our risk of another such pandemic. Less effort can be expended on things that don't work at all.
At this point, I think I'm wearing a mask as much to offend the willing slaves of disease as I am to protect people. But I have no doubt they'll start pushing to make masks illegal.
Hopefully that stays true, rather than it becoming some kind of endless grudge match where both sides just want to make the other suffer.
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2022-05-02, 06:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2022-05-03, 08:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: This year we kill it: Corona Virus Thread Mark II
Depends on how early. When the biolab in London accidentally exposed people to smallpox, they were able to quickly lock it down and stop the spread. However, we're talking a quarantine of 260 people and vaccination of 500. Not a trivial incident, but certainly much, much smaller than Covid became.
And that worked, completely. No Smallpox roaming around out there.
I don't know where the line is, and I suspect exact numbers vary depending on specifics of disease, but it clearly is possible to stop it below some threshold if we know fast enough. For Covid that didn't work out, but most diseases do not become pandemics. It's probably our best thing to focus on going forward. Measures like closing borders don't really matter if the disease has already substantially crossed.