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2021-06-12, 01:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
The cloud anchorite has a capstone ability to never die of old age. It is a supernatural ability. So if a sufficiently old (say a 2000 year old human) cloud anchorite is placed within an anti magic field do they just die of old age on the spot?
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2021-06-12, 02:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
Antimagic does suppress (Su). (And Frostburn errata didn’t go back and (Ex) the ability.)
It might not be unreasonable for a DM to rule that the “immortality” part of the Immortality of the Mountain ability is an Instantaneous rather than Permanent effect, but are there any rules supporting Instantaneous (Su)?
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2021-06-12, 09:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
RAW the creature would surely die, at least if it doesn't have any other way of surviving to that age that is not a spell, spell like or su.
On the other hand RAI it seems kinda boring, and honestly the majority of characters as long as they're not really optimized don't have many counter to an AMF.
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2021-06-12, 10:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-12, 02:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
Not unless they stay inside the antimagic field for an entire year.
With age, a character’s physical ability scores decrease and his or her mental ability scores increase (see Table: Aging Effects). The effects of each aging step are cumulative. However, none of a character’s ability scores can be reduced below 1 in this way.
When a character reaches venerable age, secretly roll his or her maximum age, which is the number from the Venerable column on Table: Aging Effects plus the result of the dice roll indicated on the Maximum Age column on that table, and records the result, which the player does not know. A character who reaches his or her maximum age dies of old age at some time during the following year.
The maximum ages are for player characters. Most people in the world at large die from pestilence, accidents, infections, or violence before getting to venerable age.
She no longer has a maximum age, and will never die of old age.
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2021-06-12, 03:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
I would go even a step further. Imho:
max age = reached max age
max age + (minimum a year) = passed max age
The victim would need to be at his max age to be affected at all. If it is older than its max age, he wouldn't qualify for "reached max age" anymore. The trigger condition for the death effect to occur has already passed and thus shouldn't apply anymore. Imagine it like going to a party. There is a valid time span for the "effect" party. If you are to late, there is no party for you. Imho the same applies to the death from old age effect in 3.5Extended Signature with Links to all my build showcases in the forum
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2021-06-12, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
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2021-06-12, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
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2021-06-12, 04:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
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2021-06-13, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
One line of thought is that you instantly die (or following a year).
Another is that your body halts its aging. If your body does not halt aging, you would continue to become decrepit and eventually end up a dried up immobile raisin. My theory is that your body simply stops aging and while under an AMF you would start aging from where you left off.
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2021-06-14, 02:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-14, 09:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
The rules are a little unclear about what exactly would happen. Personally I'd go with Khatoblepas' solution. It also fits in pretty neatly with what's (probably) the literary inspiration of the class: Lost Horizon by James Hilton. People who leave Shangri-La don't die immediately, but age creeps up on them, fast.
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2021-06-14, 11:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Anti-magic field vs. Cloud Anchorite.
Tinfoil shrinked hats are also cheap, seriously there are plenty of solutions: my most common one are contingent spells (or even better psionic tatoos with relays, capacitator and inducer) but how many normal player go around with those? Even better go around with various contingency with an AMF trigger?
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2021-06-17, 10:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-17, 11:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-06-18, 08:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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