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2008-12-14, 02:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Okay, considering the fact that he's attracted to Mrs. Butterworth, what does it say about Crystal that Belkar isn't impressed with her hotness? Ouch.
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2008-12-14, 02:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 02:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
My guess? He rerolled his character entirely when he did the whole 'communing with the inner spirits' thing. He has gone from a rather substandard build (seriously... going mostly full ranger is almost as bad as going bard or monk- some would say worse) to something munchkinish as all hell. If you have to play the game, you play it to the hilt.
He is whooping ass like a frenzied berserker who has reached nirvana. Gods, I love him so much.Last edited by Hectonkhyres; 2008-12-14 at 02:56 AM.
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2008-12-14, 02:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 03:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
But still, any averagely-built rogue should give a ranger a few important wounds, not the least of the reasons being that ranger as a class is really bad. Feint/Sneak Attack is a valid tactic, and one that in fact should hit almost every time, since I'm thinking most of Belkar's AC comes from his Dex and dodge bonuses and can't Sense Motive for crap.
This is why Belkar being so overpowering against everybody feels so odd... of course, in this particular case, I'm perfectly willing to take "Crystal is an idiot with no grasp of basic combat rules" as a valid answer
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You know, that does make a lot of sense, really. If I thought the Giant was using ToB in his setting, I'd think Belkar has just gone Tiger Fang-especialist Warblade.Last edited by Drascin; 2008-12-14 at 03:18 AM.
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2008-12-14, 03:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 03:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Just when we thought Belkar had reached the peak of his awesomeness, he nuked the limits so that he can continue going higher.
Again.
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2008-12-14, 03:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
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2008-12-14, 03:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 03:51 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
So just why should he lie? Recall also here that he also tells Roy and Elan they are running late for family reunions outside the trance. The evidence before us is that he tells the truth about the future.
The apparent purpose of the trance is to get around the forget spell on the valley. It does not seem to add to his accuracy.
Tiamat is pretty clearly evil in OOTS, but it is not clear if she is CE. As to a motive, there are a number possible, including getting a cut.
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2008-12-14, 04:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
First, you're you have to burn your action to feint. Second, this is assuming that Crystal has any ranks in Bluff; remember that she's hampered by her low intelligence in the number of skill points she has. Third, Belkar's adding his BAB to his Sense Motive checks to counter it. (Granted, his Wis is partially offsetting that; on the other hand, we don't know how many ranks in the skill he has). Fourth, Crystal is human, and Belkar has (IIRC) human as a ranger Favored Enemy; he's going to get an additional bonus to Sense Motive; it could very well be a full +6.
So, assuming Belkar is 14th level, has a +6 against humans, and a Wisdom of 6, he's got a net +18 to his Sense Motive check to defeat the feint before counting any (cross-class) skill ranks. If Crystal is 13th level and maxed out in Bluff, she's got a +16 plus any Cha modifier. Right there, that leaves a bluff failing 60% of the time.
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2008-12-14, 04:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Oh, right. I forgot that he gets to add his BAB to that. So that's, given a ranger level of say, 15, about a +13 bonus to Sense Motive (negative Wisdom and all), plus anything his Favored enemy - one of them likely to be Humans - gives... yeah, that's a fairly good chance of ignoring the feint. My bad.
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2008-12-14, 04:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
" Sneeze too hard, and you'll burst an artery." Oh, Belkar <3
IRRITATION 1: If this is the hundreth time you see one of these dumb things, add a number to the Irritation and put it in your signature. This is a flip-off to social experiments.
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2008-12-14, 04:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
V should have seen this. His theory just crumbled.
Pickle woman was neither kill nor lush object.
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2008-12-14, 05:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
That was the first comic in months that made me laugh )
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2008-12-14, 05:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Pickle-woman!
Hillarious word. I'll never remember her as Crystal again.
Belkar showing traits as a teamplayer is scary, but FUN!
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2008-12-14, 05:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 05:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 05:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Somewhat more so, at least, without the variation in attack bonus between the classes, and with attacks targeting defenses other than AC. But they still don't do well standing toe-to-toe in melee with a heavy fighter - their best strategy is still the same one that worked well in 3E. Wait for someone else to get their attention, then move up and sneak-attack their ass.
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2008-12-14, 05:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
I think I love the new Belkar.
For another fantasy webcomic with Dungeons and Dragons, read Heroes of Lesser Earth now, before it becomes cool and everyone starts doing it!
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2008-12-14, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Nice comic.
And very nice that Belkar seems to think "Team player" means "letting your buddies kill the people they hate instead of stealing the kill". ;)
Have not checked the forum but I *BET* there will be a bunch of "Look! Belkar is neutral now" when I do. ;)
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2008-12-14, 06:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 06:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
There's at least one, yes. But myself, I think he's merely discovered in himself a much deeper, more sophisticated approach to being evil. Consider his moral tale to the cleric of Loki, about teaching a man to solve his problems with violence. Oh, no - he's not giving up on evil in the slightest. He's just becoming better at it.
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2008-12-14, 06:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
i'm inclined to agree- until I see belkar risking his neck for others on a regular basis, I doubt very much that he's CN.
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2008-12-14, 06:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
My greatest concern here is:
Who, oh who, in that immortal world have tought Belkar, Miko's Slash slash slash slash slash slash attack?Learn from the past.
Live in the present.
Plan the future.
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2008-12-14, 06:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
Poor Crystal, there is nothing worse than being told you are not hot on your not-quite-death-bed.
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2008-12-14, 06:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
loved the comic! Crystal makes me feel smart :3
Something wierds goin on though, last week 613 was up, so I came on to read 614 and 616 was up!____
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2008-12-14, 06:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: OOTS #616 - The Discussion Thread
yep, got the first one going :D Hop on over if you like, but I'm pretty much done with it. Both sides have the facts layed out pretty much fully and we just kinda ended with "Nyah I think he's neutral, nyah I think he's evil" If you have any mor elight to shed, by all means add to it, keeping it bumped will hopefully stop new threads arising about it haha.
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2008-12-14, 07:14 AM (ISO 8601)
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2008-12-14, 07:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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-"I believe in gender equality, so SHOOT ME YOU WUSSY!"
-Oh hey, let's go steal the tv from the corpse house?" NOBODY HAS EVER SAID THAT UTAHRAPTOR!
-Stan you're pointing a gun to GOD. I.. I can't even THINK of a better metaphor.