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2005-09-03, 01:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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Yet another new spell!
I think I worked most of the kinks out, it just needs fine tuning. Don't tax yourself too much, there is a good chance the party wizard won't even read the book this spell is found in (he has some crazy ideas about books found in evil temples bound in human flesh being dangerous...). Anyway here it is:
Disrupt Elemental
Necromancy
Level: Wiz 3/Sorc 3
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 Standard Action
Range: Medium 100 ft + 10 ft per level
Effect: Ray
Duration: Instantaneous (or 1 round)
Saving Throw: Fortitude Partial (see text)
Spell Resistance: Yes
You shoot a ray of necromantic power to disrupt the elemental forces within an elemental creature, doing 1d6 damage per caster level (max 10d6). In addition the effected creature must succeed in a Fortitude save or be stunned for 1 round. The elemental subtype effected by this spell must be chosen when the spell is prepared, unless the caster is a sorcerer, in which the subtype is chosen upon casting.
Material Component: A pinch of grave dirt (for the Earth version), a vial of befouled water (for the Water version), a vial of swamp gas (for the Air version), or a piece of deadwood burned during the casting (for the Fire version).
Edit: Changed to make the spell able to effect the creatures it was made for.
Edit: Yea, ok the spell is not evil any more.
Edit: Decided on a Material Component, thanks everyone!"I'll give you a 10 second head start; if I catch you, I eat you."
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2005-09-03, 01:16 AM (ISO 8601)JotocoGuest in the Playground
Re: Yet another new spell!
(I need a material component for the Fire version, something to do with corrupted fire…)
The Burnt remains of a sentient creature, maybe?
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2005-09-03, 01:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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How about:
Obsidian stone
Ashes from an urn of a cremated, corrupt soul!
Charred rags of an innocent who was burned ALIVE!
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2005-09-03, 03:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why is this spell necessarily evil? The stunning I'll admit tastes like Necromancy, but aren't most elemental-type spells evocation or conjuration?
I'm not saying the spell SHOULDN'T be evil; that's up to you as the designer obviously. However, bear in mind that the core spells that have the [evil] descriptor are mostly blatant things like Animate Dead or Symbol of Pain. Blight, which does similar damage to plants, isn't evil though it is necromancy.
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2005-09-03, 06:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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The spell's OK, but I wouldn't have made it Necromancy... Since it gives no save for the damage, maybe Conjuration ?
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2005-09-03, 11:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Why is this spell necessarily evil?
the [evil] descriptor are mostly blatant things like Animate Dead or Symbol of Pain.
I wouldn't have made it Necromancy... Since it gives no save for the damage.
Obsidian stone
Ashes from an urn of a cremated, corrupt soul!
Another problem is finding something that is less than 1gp in value and pretty easy to get, otherwise I would have used the a fire opal stolen from the tomb of a evil creature or something."I'll give you a 10 second head start; if I catch you, I eat you."
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2005-09-03, 02:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2005-09-03, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Originally Posted by Sacrath
[quote]The spell gains the subtype of the creature effected when prepared (ie: a Disrupt Elemental spell prepared to target fire creatures becomes [Fire] spell as well as an [Evil] spell).
Shouldn't it be the opposite element, not the same? i.e. hitting a Fire elemental, it would be a Water spell? After all, IIRC, fire elementals are immune to fire spells.The Cranky Gamer
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2005-09-03, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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2005-09-03, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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After all, IIRC, fire elementals are immune to fire spells."I'll give you a 10 second head start; if I catch you, I eat you."
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2005-09-03, 05:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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How about ashes from a fire in which inhaled poison was burned?
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2005-09-03, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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The suggestions for material components are too over the top. The other material components are quite common,. Gravedirt can be gotten from any civilized place, befouled water is as common as fair water, swamp gas isn't very uncommon either.
But burnt remains of a sentient creature would be harder (more expensive) to obtain.
Why not just use burnt offerings? You know, something of small value that a cleric or someone who worships a god burned in offering.
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2005-09-03, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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rotted wood that is burned at the time of casting.
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2005-09-03, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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I would certainly not call it an [evil] spell. There are plenty of necromancies that channel negative energy and exactly fail to be evil.
Ray of enfeeblement is just a beautiful beautiful spell, it channels a ray of negative energy to disrupt the strength of the victim, not evil.
Vampric touch, sucks the very vitality out of the victim to strengthen yourself. Necromancy agian, not evil. A nasty trick is for a wiz to cast this puppy when he has a spare action but not touch anything, he'll look unarmed but he'll be packing a WALLOP of a melee attack for the first thing that provokes an AOO from him, or otherwise gets too damn close.
Enervation - ENERGY DRAIN, yes that's negative level whammies! It heals undead with it's negative energy and yet, it's not evil.
Circle of death - A buttload of things drop dead. Agian, not evil
Finger of death - Agian, a death affect that makes things drop dead, and agian, it's not evil.
Soul Bind - RIP the damn soul out of a freshly dead body, trap it into a prison because you feel that bastard just should never get a chance at an afterlife, or life for that matter at a later date. So very damn necromancy, yet it is not evil.
Even energy drain is not evil.
As for the pain bit, you ever hear of the spell "Salt ray"? It's in the WOTC website somewhere, I gave my sailor wizard that spell, it shoots a ray of salt that deals slashing damage, any living being that suffers damage from it must save vs being wracked by such excuciating pain that they end up being stunned for several rounds due to "salt in the wound". It isn't evil. There's a few other spells that deal with excruciating pain, they tend to not be evil, unless you are talking about that one spell that slowly rips off the victim's flesh, layer by layer, but that spell also drives the victim insane from the intense pain dealing mental damage.
There's a few spells that work on or screwing with the head that aren't evil. I mean, if a raging elemental is trying to burn me to a crisp, I'm more then willing to "hurt his feelings" if it gives me an opening. For something to be evil, the spell must be over the top gratuitously and creatively painful and violent. I mean, being hit by a lightningbolt doesn't exactly tickle, but that doesn't make it any more evil.
It's rather hard to find evil spells in fact. An evil spell though is blackfire from complete arcane.
You light someone with a black fire that consumes there very essence, draining away their constitution and nauseating them in the process. The flame spreads to any other living beings so when used in a crowd soon everyone is writhing in agony as their very essence is consumed away, leaving nothing but a pile of greasey ashes when they are reduced to 0 constitution. THAT is an evil spell, that spell is so evil, that it is mandatory, by federal law, to cackle with insane glee every time you throw it into a crowd. THAT is how evil taht spell is.
A spell that makes elementals drop dead, even via necromancy is not evil. Making living beings drop dead via necromancy isn't evil. So neither should that spell.
As for the component for fire, since you used graveearth for a earth elemental, why not the ashes of a cremated person for fire?
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2005-09-03, 08:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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I already explained why it is evil. It is less an independant spell an more a component for a ritual to capture and raise elemental spirits before they can disipate into thier respective planes. Both traping souls and raising the dead is evil. Maybe I should just make the ritual evil. Thank you for the input, but I really needed help on the other aspects of it, like damage, save, and description. And mainly an easily obtainable fire reprsentative material component.
Why not just use burnt offerings? You know, something of small value that a cleric or someone who worships a god burned in offering.
rotted wood that is burned at the time of casting."I'll give you a 10 second head start; if I catch you, I eat you."
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2005-09-03, 10:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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How about a chunk of Obsidian?
Volcanic glass, leftover from a scene of complete devastation by fire. Plenty's produced with each volcanic eruption, and it's sometimes used in tools or jewelery, so it's not that rare, just a bit uncommon.
Or something else that is completely non-flammable? Remember, it's supposed to be an abomination to a fire elemental, after all...how about asbestos? It's toxic AND non-flammable!You may think of me as:
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2005-09-04, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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The spell is completed now, thanks for all the help everyone!
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