Class and Level Geekery VII (some [spoilers])

[Kurald Galain]

Welcome to the latest incarnation of the Class and Level Geekery thread! Here, we are discussing what the possible stats are for each of the six OOTS members. Below is an estimate of the characters' stats; this was first kept by Runolfr, Wrecan, Chrismith, and RMS Oceanic. I will update this post as the discussion continues and as subsequent strips reveal more information about OOTS.

Please note that we all know that Rich isn't necessarily being careful about the rules. Funny always trumps rules. Thus, there will always be some dispute as to some of the stats as some jokes are used as evidence as abilities and other strips are used as evidence of funny.

We also discuss the stats of other characters in OOTS, such as Xykon, the Linear Guild, Miko and others. I only ask that we not discuss the stats of characters that are from other stories, movies, comic strips and so on. Thanks and welcome!

Be sure to read the FAQ*

Roy Greenhilt
Lawful Good, Human Male Fighter ≥12
Str ≥24 (Unmodified strength ≥20) *)
Dex ~10 (no evidence)
Con ≥16 (consistent with Giant's description of Miko fight*)
Int 14-17 (“very good"*, but V's Int is "higher"*)
Wis ≥14 (“very good"*)
Cha ≥12 (“decent*)
Age: 29.
Feats (13): Cleave, Great Cleave, Power Attack, Weapon Focus (greatsword), Weapon Specialization (greatsword), Endurance...
Skills (≥60): Intimidate, Ride 1, Knowledge (Architecture and Engineering) 2+, Spellcraft (OOPC), No Bluff or Sense Motive.
Items: Magical breastplate (only armor that is medium weight and rigid), Bedroll, Boots, +5 Greatsword (with other unspecified bonuses), oil of shillelagh, potion of delay poison, Bag of Tricks, Partial list of Xykon's spells, feats and magic items, Belt of Giant Strength, Unnamed Book, Sextant

Belkar Bitterleaf
Chaotic Evil, Halfling Male Ranger ≥11*/Barbarian ≥1* (character level ≥16)
Str 14-18 ("jump... exceeded movement..."*, can't carry Roy)
Dex ≥15 (to use Two-Weapon Pounce)
Con ~10 (no evidence)
Int ~10 (no evidence)
Wis ≤9 ("I have an ... ability score penalty" in Profession skill checks)
Cha ≤10 (V includes him in those w/out any Cha)
Feats (11): Craft Disturbing Mental Image, Endurance^B, Greater Two-Weapon Fighting^B, Improved Sunder, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting^B, Track^B, Power Attack, Two-Weapon Fighting^B, Two-Weapon Pounce...
Skills (89): Balance ≥5, Climb, Craft: Trapmaking, Handle Animal 0, Hide (“a good Hide skill”) (+4), Intimidate (sufficient to intimidate cowardly eye of fear and flame), Jump, Listen 0 (+2), Move Silently (“High”) (+2), Profession (gourmet chef) 4, Search 0, Sense Motive 0, Speak language^B (halfling), Spot 0, Survival 0.
Abilities: +1 saves, +1 thrown weapons, +2 v fear, Animal companion, Evasion, Fast movement, Favored enemy x3, Rage, Small size, Swift tracker, Wild empathy, Woodland stride
Items: Chef's Hat, Cloak, 3 or more small magical daggers, red chalk, Bedroll, Mama Bitterleaf's Secret +2 Circumstance Bonus Ingredient, Ring of Jumpng +20, stilts, Sapphire guard disguise, string, Dune, Bucket and Spade

Mr. Scruffy
True neutral male Tiny Animal (cat) animal companion
Str ≥4
Dex ≥16
Con 10
Int 2
Wis 12
Cha 7
Feats: Stealthy, Weapon Finesse^B
Skills (≥6): Listen 2, Spot 2...
Abilities: Animal companion (≥+2 HD, ≥+2 natural armor, ≥2 bonus tricks, Link, and Evasion, possibly more depending on number of Belkar's levels of ranger), Cat Skills (+4 racial bonus on Climb, Hide, and Move Silently checks and a +8 racial bonus on Balance and Jump checks. Use Dexterity modifier instead of Strength modifier for Climb and Jump checks. In areas of tall grass or heavy undergrowth, the Hide bonus rises to +8).
Items: string.

Durkon Thundershield
Lawful Good (forum), Dwarf male Cleric 13-15 (required to cast 7th-level spells, and to lose his best 7th-level spell to Enervation).
Str 14-19 (can carry Vaarsuvius, can't carry Roy)
Dex <10 (in a SSDT, says he has a Dex penalty)
Con ~12 (no evidence, dwarf)
Int ~10 (no evidence)
Wis 17+ (required to cast 7th-level spells); also 24+ if he's level 13 (required to cast three 7th-level spells per day), and <24 if he's level 15 (required to lose his best 7th-level spell to Enervation).
Cha <10 ("low Charisma modifier" and V includes him in those w/out any Cha)
Age: 55+.
Feats (5): Extra Turning
Skills (≥31): Heal ≥1, Knowledge: Religion ≥1 (but not much greater), Ride 0, Speak language: dwarf and giant, (No Listen)
Abilities: +1 v orcs and goblinoids, +2 v spells and poison, +4 dodge AC v giants, +2 to Appraise and Craft stone and metal, bless beer*, clerical spells (Good domain, and homebrew "Thor" domain that grants Thor's Lightning, Call Lightning (DCF), and Cat's Grace; darkvision, dwarf movement, stability, stonecunning, turn undead, weapon familiarity (dwarven waraxe, urgrosh)
Items: Amulet of Natural Armor, full plate armor, holy symbol, heirloom shield, heirloom warhammer, Bedroll, religious vestments, flask, Scroll of Sending, spyglass, belt pouch.
Spells: standard cleric list, plus domain spells listed above, and unfinished Mass Death Ward.

Elan
Chaotic Good Human Male Bard 13/Dashing Swordsman ≥1
Str <=18 (can't carry Roy, and the same as Nale).
Dex 13-17 (Has Dodge, was able to roll a four on Move Silently checks)
Con ~10 (no evidence)
Int <10 (too low to cast cantrips; Belkar states Elan's int is 2, in NCPB).
Wis ≤9 (Roy says he doesn't even have a "smidgen" of Wisdom)
Cha ≥22 (Unmodified charisma ≥20)
Age: 21+ (WXP).
Feats (6): Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack, Still Spell.
Skills (≥80): Diplomacy, Hide (wished he "had put more ranks in Hide"), Move Silently ≤1, Perform (Sing) ≥6, Perform (Stringed Instruments) ≥6, Perform (wind instruments), Ride^cc≥2, Tumble.
Abilities: bardic music, bardic lore, charismatic strike, countersong, fascinate, glass damage immunity, inspire competence, inspire courage +2, inspire greatness, song of freedom, suggestion
Items: Belt of charisma, dashing outfit, silver +3 keen rapier, lute, Banjo; no armor, Drawing of Elanasaurus Rex, Boots of Elvenkind, His old clothes, his old magic rapier, kazoo (forum), jam, roller skate, pingpong bat, lantern, squirrel, The Stick, yoyo, flying carpet.
Spells: (per day ≥ 3 5 4 4 3 1; known 6 4 4 4 4 2) Animate Rope, Disguise Self, Greater Dispel Magic, Lesser Confusion, Major Image, Mass Cure Light Wounds, Mending, Neutralize Poison, Prestidigitation, Silent Image, Summon Plot Exposition, not Identify.

Haley Starshine
Chaotic Good, Human female, Rogue ≥15 (required for Improved Precise Shot)
Str 13-19 (high enough to drag the cart, but can't carry Roy)
Dex 20-21 ("modifier of +5"*)
Con ≥14 (consistent with Giant's description of Miko fight*). Tsukiko claims to have more spells than Haley's HP.
Int ≥12 (received bonus languages)
Wis ~10 (no evidence)
Cha 12+ (part of all party members with any charisma, and less than Samantha's)
Age: 25+ (was 24 here, and that was over a year ago); also, age is about 25 (forum).
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Feats (7+): Dodge (SSDT), Improved Precise Shot, Manyshot, Martial Weapon Proficiency (longbow), Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot (prerequisite for Improved Precise Shot), Ranged Sunder, Rapid Shot.
Skills (180+): Appraise, Bluff 18 (maxed out), Forgery (OOPC), Hide 18 (best skill), Open Lock 15+, Ride 0, Search, Sense Motive 2+, Tumble, Use Rope 8, Spellcraft.
Abilities: Evasion, Improved uncanny dodge, Sneak attack, Trapfinding (DCF), Trap sense, Uncanny dodge; two special rogue abilities.
Items: 8 Bags of Holding, rope, a lot of clothes, bedroll, +5 longbow of Icy Burst, Crystal's +4 blade, magic leather armor, dyed Boots of Speed (forum), at least 200,000 gp in cash, trowel, metal detector, 4+ quivers of green arrows including silver and cold iron, three potions (since Belkar took one).

Vaarsuvius
True Neutral (forum), Elf ambiguously gendered Wizard: Evoker (DCF) 15+ (required to cast Power Word: Stun).
Str 5-9 (can carry Yukyuk, and strength penalty).
Dex <12 (no real attack bonus on rays, forum).
Con <12 (lacks a decent con, forum).
Int 23 (required to cast four 6th-level spells with a base int of 18 increased to 19 at level 12).
Wis 10-11 (moderate, forum).
Cha 6-9 (can return as a ghost, and poor charisma, forum).
Age: 130+ (WXP).
Feats (11+): Alertness, Empower Spell, Extend Spell (SSDT), Maximize Spell (SSDT), Quicken Spell, Scribe Scroll (wizard bonus feat), not Silent Spell (forum), not Still Spell.
Skills (108+): Appraise +3 (from familiar), Concentrate, Craft: Alchemy, Decipher Script (SSDT), Knowledge: Arcana, Ride 0, Spot 0, Search 0, Speak Language: elf, raven, not draconic (SSDT), Spellcraft.
Abilities: Elf racial abilities, familiar: Blackwing, share spells with familiar, scry on familiar, barred schools: Conjuration and Necromancy (forum; also by elimination).
Items: Headband of Intellect +4 (required to cast four 6th-level spells with a base int of 18 at level 11), Ring of Wizardry III or IV, two small gemstones, many scrolls and spellbooks, Finding Plot Holes for Dummies, twelve more books, jar of diamond dust, two potions (SSDT), apricot-scented face gel (SSDT).
Spells: Arcane Eye, Banishment, Bull's Strength, Bugsby's Cat-Retrieving Hand, Bugsby's Expressive Single Digit, Bugsby's Flicking Finger, Bugsby's Grasping Hand, Chain Lightning, Charm Monster, Cone of Cold, Crushing Despair, Detect Magic, Dimensional Anchor, Disintegrate, Dispel Magic, Dominate Person, Evan's Spiked Tentacles of Forced Intrusion, Expeditious Retreat, Explosive Runes, Feather Fall, Fireball, Fire Trap, Forcecage, Fly, Grasping Hand, Greater Invisibility (SSDT), Gust of Wind, Haste, Heroism, Hold Monster (SSDT), Hold Person, Hold Portal, Identify, Invisibility, discount Invisibility Sphere, Lightning Bolt, Magic Missile, Mass Bear's Endurance. Mass Bull's Strength, Mass Enlarge Person, Owl's Wisdom, Polymorph, Power Word Blind, Power Word Stun, Prestidigitation, Prismatic Spray, Protection from Arrows, Resilient Sphere (SSDT), Scorching Ray, See Invisibility, Sending, Silent Image, Sleep, Stinking Cloud (DCF), Stoneskin, Stone to Flesh, Suggestion, True Seeing, Vaarsuvius' Enhanced Scrying, Vaarsuvius' Greater Animal Messenger, Vampiric Touch, Veil, at least one sonic spell.

Blackwing (Common name)
Raven male, 15+ HD (same as Vaarsuvius).
Str 1 (racial).
Dex 15 (racial).
Con 10 (racial).
Int 13+ (familiar, based on Vaarsuvius's level).
Wis 14 (racial).
Cha 6 (racial).
Feats: Alertness, Weapon Finesse (racial bonus feats).
Skills: Listen +5, Spot +7, Use Magic Device, can use Vaarsuvius's skill ranks.
Abilities: Flight, low-light vision (both racial abilities); natural armor +8, improved evasion, empathic link, deliver touch spells, speak with birds, spell resistance 18 (all familiar abilities).
Items: bauble, sombrero, fake beard and mustache, wand.

[Kurald Galain]

Team Evil

Xykon, pseudonym (SOD)
Chaotic Evil, Human male lich, Sorcerer 27+.
Str 14+ (can carry two goblins in an elf; his age penalties were removed when he became a lich; both in SOD).
Con n/a (undead).
Int ~15 (no evidence, age and lichdom).
Wis ~15 (no evidence, age and lichdom).
Cha 28+ (casts seven 9th-level spells in one combat, SOD).
Age: 110+ (WXP).
Feats (13+): Maximize Spell, Skill Focus: Spellcraft and Epic Skill Focus: Spellcraft, Still Spell, Improved Spell Capacity x3 (Maximized Energy Drain is a 12th level spell), Epic Spellcasting, at least one craft feat.
Skills (46+): Bluff, Concentration (required to cast while grappled), Spellcraft 24+, Knowledge: Arcana 24+ (required for Epic Spellcasting), Reverse Psychology 2+, Speak Language: Draconic (NCPB); +8 racial bonus on Hide, Listen, Move Silently, Search, Sense Motive, and Spot checks.
Abilities: Fear aura, paralyzing touch, turn resistance, damage reduction (SOD), immunity to cold, electricity, polymorph, and mind-affecting attacks (all lich abilities).
Items: Soul gem (SOD), Serini's diary, Widescreen crystal ball, Teevo, crown that radiates evil, Dorukan's headband, unspecified item that gives fire immunity, Ring of Protection that gives deflection bonus.
Spells: Animate Dead, Animate Dead Animal (SOD), Cloister, Cloudkill (SOD), Contingency, Energy Drain (SOD), Epic Mage Armor, Finger of Death, Ghostform, Greater Invisibility, Greater Teleport, Invisibility (SOD), Lightning Bolt, Magic Missile, Mass Hold Person, Meteor Swarm, Otiluke's Resilient Sphere (SOD), Overland Flight, Ray of Frost, Shatter, Soul Bind (SOD), Stoneskin, Superb Dispelling, Symbol of Insanity, Symbol of Pain, Teleport, Xykon's Moderately Escapable Forcecage, unspecified fire spell.

Redcloak, pseudonym (SOD)
Lawful (required for Law domain) Evil (SOD), Goblin male, Cleric (SOD) 15+ (based on Blade Barrier damage).
Str ~8 (no evidence, racial; ).
Dex ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Wis 20+ (based on saving throw difficulty class).
Cha 12+ (required to use Rebuke Undead four times per day).
Age: 54+ (WXP), does not age physically (SOD).
Feats (5+): Craft Wondrous Item (Xykon's phylactery in SOD), Extend Spell.
Skills (36+): Diplomacy (SOD), Knowledge: Chemistry. Does not speak Draconic (NCPB).
Abilities: Goblin racial abilities, Rebuke Undead, Destruction domain (required to cast Disintegrate) and Law domain (required to cast Hold Monster, SOD).
Items: The Crimson Mantle, backup unholy symbol, Book of Vile Darkness, Fiend Folio, Monster Manual II, eye patch, spyglass.

Tsukiko
Evil, Human female, Wizard: Necromancer (forum) 3+ / Cleric 3+ (required for Mystic Theurge) / Mystic Theurge 6+, and two more levels of either Wizard or Mystic Theurge (required to cast 6th-level wizard spells).
Int 16+ (required to cast Create Undead as a wizard).
Wis 15+ (required to cast Flame Strike as a cleric).
Feats (6+): Scribe Scroll (wizard bonus feat), Quicken Spell.
Skills (42+): Knowledge: Arcana 6+, Knowledge: Religion 6+ (required for Mystic Theurge).
Abilities: Rebuke Undead, two unknown domains, barred school (forum): Abjuration (by elimination).
Items: Spellbook (wizard feature), unholy symbol (required to cast Flame Strike), Xykon plushie, Xykon portrait, various books and scrolls, quill.
Spells: Cold Orb, Create Undead, Dominate Person, Electric Orb, Fire Orb, Fireball, Fly, Invisibility, Lesser Acid Orb, Lightning Bolt, Mind Fog, Shout, Teleport, Tsukiko's Amazing Wight-Making Spell (forum).

Monster In The Darkness
Please see this thread for details.



The Linear Guild

Nale
Lawful Evil, Human male, Fighter / Rogue 2+ (required for Evasion) / Sorcerer 8+ (required to cast Dimension Door); total level 14+ (at least as high as his personal rival Elan).
Str <19 (same as Elan, forum).
Dex 13-17 (same as Elan).
Con ~10 (same as Elan).
Int 10+ (higher than Sabine, forum).
Cha 15+ (required to cast Sending).
Age: 21+ (same as Elan).
Skills: Bluff.
Abilities: Rogue class abilities.
Items: Longsword, wand of Enervation.
Spells: Charm Person, Dimension Door, Expeditious Retreat, Prestidigitation, Suggestion.

Sabine
Evil, Succubus female, Racial hit dice 6 / Level adjustment 6 / Rogue (NCPB) 3+ (at least as high as her personal rival Haley).
Str 18+ (can carry Elan while flying).
Dex ~13 (no evidence, racial).
Con ~13 (no evidence, racial).
Int 9+ (racial minimum, and higher than Thog).
Wis ~14 (no evidence, racial).
Cha ~26 (no evidence, racial).
Age: 2000+ (WXP).
Feats (5+): Reinforced Wings (can carry Elan while flying).
Abilities: Flight, change shape, energy drain, charm monster, detect good, detect thoughts, ethereal jaunt, suggestion, greater teleport: self plus 50 pounds of objects, summon demon, damage reduction 10 / cold iron or good, darkvision, electricity and poison immunity, acid cold and fire resistance, spell resistance 18, telepathy, tongues; plane shift 1/day (all racial abilities), rogue class abilities, doesn't grow tired.

Thog
Non-lawful (required for rage) Evil, Half-Orc male, Fighter 2 / Barbarian.
Str 14+ (can carry Hilgya, and his highest ability score).
Int <8 (racial, dump stat).
Wis <10 (abysmal will save).
Cha ~8 (no evidence, racial).
Age: 16+ (WXP).
Feats (3+): Power Attack.
Skills (6+): Jump.
Abilities: Dungeoncrasher alternative class feature (forum), half-orc racial abilities, barbarian class abilities.

Yukyuk
Kobold male, Ranger 4+ (required for an animal companion) / Rogue.
Str ~6 (no evidence, racial).
Dex ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Con ~8 (no evidence, racial).
Abilities: Ranger and rogue class abilities, animal companion (riding dog "Sir Scraggly").
Feats (4+): Endurance, Track (ranger bonus feats).
Items: Two Crossbows of Quick Loading.

Zz'dtri
Non-good Non-chaotic (required for an imp familiar), Drow male, Wizard: Transmuter (DCF) 13+ (required to cast Plane Shift).
Str 5+ (can carry Yikyik).
Dex ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Con ~8 (no evidence, racial).
Int 17+ (required to cast Plane Shift).
Cha ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Feats (9+): Alertness (from familiar), Lightning Reflexes, Scribe Scroll (wizard bonus feat), Silent Spell (forum), Boost Spell Resistance, unspecified feat that increases Spell Resistance.
Abilities: Spell Resistance 28+ (racial, at least +4 from feats and an item), familiar: Qarr, share spells with familiar, scry on familiar, barred schools: Enchantment, Necromancy (by elimination).
Items: Spellbook (wizard feature), unspecified item that boosts Spell Resistance.
Spells: Baleful Polymorph, Break Enchantment, Dimension Door, Disguise Self, Flesh to Stone, Fly (3.0 version), Phantasmal Killer, Plane Shift, Protection from Fire, Shield, Wall of Ice, unspecified acid spell, unspecified lightning spell.

Qarr
Lawful Evil, Imp male, Sorcerer 8-10 (required to cast Charm Monster, and to get only two Scorching Rays).
Dex ~17 (no evidence, racial).
Int 12+ (familiar, based on Zz'dtri's level).
Wis ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Cha 14+ (required to cast Charm Monster).
Feats (5+): Dodge, Weapon Finesse (racial bonus feats).
Abilities: Flight, poison, detect good, detect magic, invisibility: self, suggestion 1/day, commune 1/week, alternate form, damage reduction 5/good or silver, darkvision, fast healing, poison immunity, fire resistance; greater teleport: self plus 50 pounds of objects, plane shift, summon devil (all racial abilities); natural armor +12, improved evasion, empathic link, deliver touch spells, spell resistance 18 (all familiar abilities).
Spells: Charm Monster, Lesser Telepathic Bond, Lightning Bolt, Scorching Ray.

Former members

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Hilgya
Non-lawful (worships the god of chaos) Evil (DCF), Dwarf female, Cleric of Loki 7+ (required to cast Restoration).
Wis 14+ (required to cast Restoration).
Abilities: Dwarf racial abilities, Fire domain, one unknown domain.
Items: Horned helmet, armor, shield, holy symbol (required to use rebuke ability).

Leeky Windstaff
Neutral Evil, Gnome male, Druid 13+ (required to cast Fire Storm).
Str ~8 (no evidence, racial).
Con ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Wis 17+ (required to cast Fire Storm).
Feats (5+): Leadership.
Abilities: Gnome racial abilities, druid class abilities, animal companion (hawk "Kitty", deceased).

Pompey
Evil, Half-Elf male, Wizard: Conjurer 5+ (required to cast Still Silent Animate Rope).
Int 14+ (required to cast four 2nd-level spells per day).
Age: 43+.
Feats (3+): Scribe scroll (wizard bonus feat), Silent Spell, Still Spell.
Skills (35+): Knowledge: Arcana.
Abilities: Half-elf racial abilities, barred schools: evocation and enchantment.
Items: Spellbook (wizard feature).
Spells: Animate Rope, Summon Monster I, Summon Monster II, at least 5 touch-range buff spells -- lowest-level possibilities are Mage Armor, Protection from Good, Protection from Law, Bull's Strength, Bear's Endurance.

Yikyik (deceased)
Chaotic Evil (same as Belkar, DCF), Kobold male, Ranger (DCF).
Str ~6 (no evidence, racial).
Dex 12+ (gets additional attack from Combat Reflexes).
Con ~8 (no evidence, racial).
Feats: Combat Reflexes, Track (ranger bonus feat).
Abilities: Ranger class abilities.
Items: Dagger.

Yokyok (deceased)
Kobold male.
Str ~6 (no evidence, racial).
Dex ~12 (no evidence, racial).
Con ~8 (no evidence, racial).
Items: Rapier.

The Sapphire Guard

Hinjo
Lawful Good, Human male, Paladin 11-12 (three attacks per round, but was lower level than Roy during the battle at Azure City, and hasn't leveled up since).
Cha 12+ (required for Lay On Hands).
Age: 25+ (WXP).
Abilities: Paladin class abilities, Summon Conscience, paladin mount: dire wolf "Argent".
Items: Cold-iron katana, silvered katana; magic boots, cloak and armor (WXP).

Lien
Lawful Good, Human female, Paladin 12+ (higher level than Hinjo).
Str 13+ (required for Cleave).
Int 10+ (good, not dumb).
Cha 12+ (required for Lay On Hands).
Age: 28+ (three years older than Hinjo, DSTP).
Feats (6+): Cleave, Power Attack (prerequisite for Cleave), Weapon Focus: Longspear.
Abilities: Paladin class abilities, paladin mount: large shark "Razor".
Items: Longspear; magic boots, cloak and armor (WXP); ring of waterbreathing (DSTP).

Miko Miyazaki (deceased)
Lawful Good, Human female, Monk 2+ / Fallen Paladin 10+ (three main-hand attacks per round, and higher level than Hinjo).
Str 13+ (required for Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Katana; the DMG states that a katana is a masterwork bastard sword; wielding it in one hand requires a feat, wielding it in two hands does not).
Dex 17+ (required for Improved Two-Weapon Fighting).
Wis 11+ (required to cast Cure Light Wounds in the Miko fight).
Cha 12+ (required for Lay On Hands).
Age: 28+ (WXP).
Feats (6+): Cleave, Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Katana, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting (two off-hand attacks per round), Improved Unarmed Strike, Power Attack, Quick Draw, Stunning Fist, Track, Two-Weapon Fighting (prerequisite for ITWF).
Skills (30+): Knowledge: the Planes, Survival +1.
Abilities: Monk class abilities, unavailable paladin mount: horse "Windstriker".
Items: Magic boots, cloak and armor (WXP); katana, wakizashi.

O-Chul
Lawful Good, Human male, Fighter / Paladin 3+ (has Aura of Courage), total level 12+ (higher than Hinjo).
Str 11+ (can carry Vaarsuvius).
Con ~25 (WXP; likely has 140+ hit points, forum).
Cha <10 (dump stat).
Age: 28+ (fighter for twelve years, and minimum age for a fighter is 16).
Skills (45+): Bluff 0, Swim.
Abilities: Paladin class abilities.

Shojo (deceased)
Chaotic Good, Human male, Aristocrat 14.
Str / Dex / Con ~4 (no evidence, age).
Int / Wis / Cha ~13 (no evidence, age).
Age: 72+ (WXP).
Feats (6): Improved Paranoia.
Skills (68+): Bluff, Perform (puppetry).



Family and other characters

Tarquin
Lawful Evil, Human male, level 13+ (higher than Roy).
Age: ~41 (approx twenty years older than Elan).
Feats: Quick draw
Items: Dagger, helmet, two Rings of Regeneration.

Celia
Lawful Good (DSTP), Sylph female, 6+ HD (required to cast Lightning Bolt).
Str 15+ (can carry Haley while flying).
Cha 16+ (required to cast four 3rd-level spells in a day).
Age: 22+ (WXP).
Abilities: Flight, cast sorcerer spells as a caster of a level equal to her HD, shoot lightning out of her fingers (all racial abilities).
Feats (3+): Reinforced Wings (can carry Haley while flying).
Skills (36+): Spellcraft.
Items: Black eyeliner pencil, cell phone, dress that causes Feeblemind.
Spells: Alter Self, Lightning Bolt, Summon Employee Exit, either Fog Cloud or Obscuring Mist, no necromancy spells.

Eugene Greenhilt (deceased, OOPC)
Lawful Good (SOD), Human male ghost, Wizard: Illusionist 11+ (required to cast Permanent Image).
Str/Dex ~4 (no evidence, age).
Con n/a (undead).
Int 16+ (required to cast Permanent Image).
Wis ~13 (no evidence, age).
Cha 6+ (required to become a ghost).
Age: 81+ (WXP).
Feats (8+): Scribe Scroll (wizard bonus feat).
Items: Spellbook (wizard feature).
Spells: Detect Scrying, Fly (SOD), Invisibility Sphere, Minor Image (OOPC), Permanent Image, Summon Boot, Teleport (SOD), unspecified chair conjuration (OOPC), unspecified fire spell.

Julia Greenhilt
True Neutral, Human female, Wizard 3.
Int 15+ (required to cast Sending from a scroll).
Age: 16+ (five years younger than Nale).
Feats (4): Scribe Scroll (wizard bonus feat).
Spells: Feather Fall, Magic Missile.

Samantha (deceased)
Evil (NCPB), Human female, Sorcerer 12 (required to cast exactly three 6th level spells in a day).
Cha 16-21 (required to cast Chain Lightning, but has no bonus spells at level 6). Also, her charisma is higher than Haley's.
Age: 18.
Feats (5): Maximize Spell, not Silent Spell, not Still Spell.
Spells: Chain Lightning, Fireball, Fly, Hold Person, Lightning Bolt, Magic Missile, Protection From Arrows.

[Kurald Galain]

Frequently Asked Questions

Q. Where did you get this idea?
A. The first incarnation of this thread was started by runolfr in the old version of the message boards. Everybody is always talking about this stuff and this thread is intended to be a central repository for all discussions of the stats of OOTS and the various NPCs. You can read the prior version of this thread here:
Class and Level Geekery
Class and Level Geekery II
Class and Level Geekery III
Class and Level Geekery IV
Class and Level Geekery V
Class and Level Geekery VI

Q. Is this thread core-only? Is the comic core-only?
No on both counts. The comic has used numerous non-core feats, spells, and class features, and ever since 2007 this thread has occasionally used non-core elements when core elements are insufficient to explain what is going on in the comic.

Q. Doesn't Comic X demonstrate Vaarsuvius' gender?
A. No. No! NO! Please read the FAQ. Better yet, I'll quote it verbatim:

Q: Is Vaarsuvius male or female?

A: I will never reveal the truth! Bwahaha! Keep in mind that while certain other characters might refer to V as being male or female, that simply reveals their perception, not the actual reality of the situation.

Q. When do the OOTS PCs level up?
A. OOTS is 10th level some time before episode 1, 11th level at episode 12, 12th level at 124, 13th level by 397 (Elan's 13th level was in his new prestige class), and Belkar hit 14th level in 515 (although if he failed his save against the wight's level drain, he'd still be 13th level). Haley was 15th level some time before 615. Vaarsuvius is definitively 14th by 627 (which is the definitive indication that OOTS ceased leveling up at the same rate since Roy's death). (Durkon may also be 15th level.) Elan raised a level in 647, and has 13 levels of bard and one or more levels of Dashing Swordsman. If Roy is raised from the dead, he will likely be reduced to 12th level.

Q. Why is Mr. Scruffy an animal companion? I don't think it's definitive.
A. The extended discussion on this begins here.

Q. A character undertook this heinous/awesome/dutiful/impulsive/meh action. Does that mean they are now evil/good/lawful/chaotic/neutral?
A. No. As seen in a thousand Miko threads, people have different ideas about alignment, and what defines and changes them. The alignments posted here, wherever possible, are taken from the character's own mouth, someone else in a position to know their alignment, or their use of a spell/feat/whatever which has an alignment restriction. Kindly refrain from speculating from how a character's action changes their alignment, since it's not really something you can reason out with facts and numbers.

Q. In Comic 2, Elan praises his "six new skill points". Since human bards get 7+Int skill points per level, doesn't this mean that he has an Int penalty of -1 and an Intelligence of 8 or 9?
A. No. According to the Giant, he's referring to the the new rule for bards and skill points, which is 6/level (not including racial and ability bonuses), and that's 7+Int skill points per level, not per edition conversion. Elan hadn't just gained a level.

Q. Does Comic 17 mean that Belkar has a sonic sunder attack?
A. No. it would ruin the joke if Belkar was referring to some sonic attack, as opposed to making fun of the flimsiness of the standard rapier.

Q. In Comic 28, didn't Haley claim to have a Charisma of 18?
A. She was talking about Elan.

Q. In Comic 31, Roy is more appetizing than Vaarsuvius to the illithid. Doesn't this mean Roy should have a higher Intelligence than Vaarsuvius?
A. No. The illithid apparently measures the aggregate of all the mental Abilities (Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma). V has a high Intelligence, but average Wisdom and low Charisma. Roy needs to have a higher aggregate score.

Q. In Comic 34, Roy says Elan's bardic bonus is +1, meaning he is no greater than 8th level. Doesn't this make him two levels lower than the rest of the party?
A. Since everybody gains a level at the same time (more or less) in Comic 124, it seems everybody is the same level. Otherwise, they'd increase in level in staggered bits. So Comic 124 trumps Comic 34. And since we know the party level was 11 at the time, Elan's bardic bonus is higher than +1, notwithstanding what Roy says.

Q. In Comic 38, Durkon tells Roy he's paralyzed because he was poisoned 17 times with Strength poison. Doesn't this mean Roy's Stength is 17?
A. No. First poison inflicts variable Ability Damage. Being poisoned 17 times would mean he lost dozens of Strengh points. Second, your Strength can never be reduced below 0, no matter how much you're poisoned. The number 17 was chosen for its funny. It cannot indicate Roy's Strength.

Q. Doesn't Comic 49 indicate Vaarsuvius has Time Stop, Meteor Swarm and Wish in the spellbook?
A. No. Vaarsuvius was not even looking at the spellbook. It was likely an attempt to suggest the most outrageous spells for Zz'ditri's variant Fly spell. The evidence, at best, is inconclusive.

Q. Then why does Comic 49 indicate Vaarsuvius has Vampiric Touch? That spell might even be in Vaarsuvius' barred school of necromancy!
A. Vaarsuvius mentions ths in between two spells be know Vaarsuvius possesses. Thus, Vaarsuvius was not kidding at the time. Even if Vaarsuvius can't cast necromancy, Vaarsuvius could hve had that spell before the upgrade and kept it in the spellbook afterwards.

Q. In Comic 58, Belkar uses a scroll of Cure Serious Wounds, which requires him to have a Wisdom of 14. Since Vaarsuvius cast Owl's Wisdom on him (which boosts your Wisdom by 4), he must have a Wisdom of 10. Why do you have him at less?
A. That comic was trumped by the more recent Comic 475 in which Belkar admits to having an Ability score penalty to Profession checks. Since Wisdom is the Ability that modified Profession, Belkar cannot have a Wisdom above 9. So we are ignoring Comic 58 as one of those times where "funny trumps rules."

Q. Wait a minute. Cure Serious Wounds is only a third-level spell on the clerical spell list. And since it was Durkon's scroll and Durkon is a cleric, wouldn't that mean Belkar only needed a 13 Wisdom, which means a 9 Wisdom before Vaarsuvius cast Owl's Wisdom?
A. No. Scrolls have no class listed. You use the level of the spell on the caster's spell list. Cure Serious Wounds is a 4th level Ranger spell.
UPDATE: In the wake of another debate about this, two schools of thought have risen, regarding whether a Ranger needs 13 or 14 wisdom to cast the spell. Based on various readings of the rules from the SRD, Wizards.com and Splat Books, it is possible to see different meanings. In the interest of not alienating fellow geeks, the assumption, until explicit confirmation from either Wizards or Rich about which is correct, will be that that funny and plot trumps the rules.

Q. In Comic 73, Thor acts pretty chaotically and he's listed as Chaotic Good in Deities and Demigods. Since clerics cannot be more than one step removed from their deity, how can Durkon be lawful?
A. The Thor in OOTS is not the Thor in Deities and Demigods. Thor is more likely Neutral Good with lots of Lawful and Chaotic characteristics. Either way, Durkon, is clearly Lawful Good.

Q. Where's Elan's coffee maker (Comic 81), espresto box (Comic 84), squirrel, paddleball game, lantern, roller skate or jam (Comic 206)?
A. From Comic 471, Elan appears to have lost all of his equipment when Nale temporarily switched places with him. So only the equipment he has been seen with since his escape from prison in Comic 387 will be listed.

Q. From Comic 127, You use Vaarsuvius' statement that Elan can't use cantrips as evidence that Elan has under a 10 Intelligence. But Elan casts spells all the time.
A. In D&D, wizards use Intelligence to cast spells and require Intelligence 10 to cast cantrips. Bards use Charisma. Vaarsuvius is saying Elan doesn't have the Intelligence needed to cast cantrips as a Wizard.

Q. In Comic 170, Durkon gets a golden tankard. Why isn't that on his possessions?
A. It's too big for Durkon to carry, so we assume it was left behind. If it shows up again, it will be placed on the possessions list.

Q. In Comic 219, Durkon is fighting ogres. Why is this strip referenced as his bonus for fighting giants?
A. In D&D 3.5, ogres are of the "giant type", and dwarves (like Durkon) get a dodge bonus when fighting creatures of the giant type.

Q. In Comic 245, Vaarsuvius and Haley only manage to save one bag of treasure. Why do you still list Haley as having eight bags of holding?
A. The bag they rescued is not a bag of holding, but a regular sack of treasure. We know this because in Comic 130 we see what a bag of holding looks like, and it doesn't look like the sack of treasure in Comic 245. Haley keeps her bags of holding on her person. It wouldn't have needed rescuing.

Q. In Comic 249, Belkar talks about Roy's "heavy armor". Why is he listed with only Medium armor?
A. In order for Roy carrying Durkon (as he does in Comic 5) to make sense, Roy would need to be wearing nothing heavier than Medium armor. Otherwise, Roy runs no faster than Durkon. Thus, we assume Belkar is speaking descriptively about Roy's armor, in accordance with his Craft Disturbing Mental Images Feat.

Q. Doesn't Comic 599 demonstrate that Vaarsuvius can cast Overland Flight?
A. Quite probably. But until we get confirmation that Vaarsuvius flew farther than a 13-14th level wizard can fly using the Fly spell, we cannot state it with certainty.

Q. Doesn't Comic 616 demonstrate that Belkar has Improved Trip and Improved Disarm? Crystal never got an AoO on him, which should mean he has those feats.
A. Possibly. However, AoOs are not always shown in the comic. Crystal may have forgotten to use it, or may have missed and the Giant didn't bother to show it to us.

Q. A character is flying, and is carrying someone else. Does this mean we can determine their strength by examining the encumbrance rules?
A. Yes, it does. Every instance of a flying character carrying someone is easily explained by RAW, except for one: Vaarsuvius carrying Durkon in #689, since we know V has a strength penalty. However, we're not going to invalidate a whole swath of rules just because of one oversight.
Note that characters with winged flight may only fly while carrying a light load, whereas characters using a Fly spell have no such restriction.

[Kurald Galain]

And here we go again. Since the previous thread got locked, and Oceanic appears to be inactive recently (I count 17 posts in the last two months, and none since August 1st) I've reposted the content of the previous thread so that discussion can continue. Of course, I have no wish to step on his toes, so I'll inform him by PM that he can have the thread back if he wants, and in the meantime we'll have a place to discuss the details of O-Chul's exact hit points and other geekish minutiae.

[MagusBloodsoak]

Change it back so it says the level is equal to or higher, not simply equal to.

[Ping Pong Along]

For consistency's sake, shouldn't we have Yukyuk and Sir Scraggly ones too? All other member of the Linear Guild (not including Durkon's yet to be revealed opposite) are represented on the geekery.

[Illven]

Change it back so it says the level is equal to or higher, not simply equal to.

In addition sereval of the ability scores should be a > symbol, instead of an = symbol.

[hoff]

Dominate Person is missing from V list...

[EmperorSarda]

Dominate Person is missing from V list...

Are we sure it isn't Dominate Monster?

[Darius1020]

In the new book, Durkon seems to be able to speak Giant. And it's during the Stick Tales section, so it's in the same continuity.

[Chronos]

OK, back on the topic of O-Chul's HP: I don't think we can learn much from the fight with Xykon. He almost certainly saved vs. Redcloak's Disintegrate, given how little damage shows on him (and O-Chul making a Fort save is hardly a surprise, anyway). So that's 5d6 that we can be sure of.

Everything else, though, is in doubt. For the Meteor Swarm, it's hard to tell how many meteors actually hit (I certainly don't see evidence that all four did), and if any of them missed, then we also don't know if he made his save against those. And then for the Maximized Lightning Bolt, again, we have no way of knowing whether he saved. In principle, we could construct a distribution of possible values using the probability of each meteor hitting and the probability of O-Chul making each save, but we don't know O-Chul's Dex nor level, nor Xykon's attack bonus. And even if we did know all that, it'd be a messy distribution, very difficult to calculate with, not a nice clean Gaussian.

So I think it's safest to just use the shark tank value of 154.33 ± 11. If a calculation of the Xykon-fight damage gives a higher value, that probably just means that one or more meteor missed, and/or he made one or more saves.

Oh, and I have no objection to Vargtass' suggestion from the previous thread to express it as a 95% confidence interval, rather than as a standard deviation, as long as it's stated what measure is used. All measures of characteristic width for a Gaussian give equivalent information.

[MagusBloodsoak]

As I said in the previous thread, it makes a great deal of sense to note O'Chul as:
a) having grown a few levels since the battle of Azure city (it's included for Lien, so it makes no sense whatever not to include it for O'Chul), and
b) "Likely has 170+ hit points" based on the Xykon v.s V section, where O'Chul takes an average of 170+ hit points (and possibly far more).

[MagusBloodsoak]

Dude. O'Chul very clearly takes 4 meteors head on, he isn't even looking in that direction when they hit him. It's also odd that he'd make a reflex save given he is very clearly sent flying when the bolt hits him. I haven't seen reflex saves treated like that elsewhere. I have assumed he made his save v.s disintegration btw. The calculations are on the other thread. It's 170+ average (171 actually), but potentially up in the mid-300's.

[Vargtass]

In the new book, Durkon seems to be able to speak Giant. And it's during the Stick Tales section, so it's in the same continuity.

Even though the thread is clearly marked "spoiler", could we put SS&DT information under spoiler tags at least until people has had a fair chance of receiving their copies? Not all copies have left the warehouse yet, much less reached their recipients.

[Lucas]

Zz'dtri's profile needs to be updated with his barred schools and two newest used spells.

Just sayin', dunno if you missed it or were just waiting.

[Kurald Galain]

Added template for Yukyuk and Sir Scraggly; can anyone cook up a good smily or two?

Added dominate person (I'm assuming the lower-level spell here, there's no indication that V can cast 9th-level spells). Added Durkon's language, O-Chul's levelup, Z's spells and schools.

Regarding the > or >= debate, I'd have to read back into what the discussion was about. Regarding O-Chul's hit points, I'd like to get some more discussion on whether or not to include estimates in the thread, because so far it hasn't done those. Finally, I think it would be courteous to use spoiler tags for SS&DT debate, for the time being.

[Kish]

Regarding the > or >= debate, I'd have to read back into what the discussion was about.

You've converted all the "greater/less than or equals" signs into "equals."

[Kurald Galain]

You've converted all the "greater/less than or equals" signs into "equals."

...huh?

Okay, I have no idea how that happened. What I've done is copy/paste the text to notepad and back, and apparently this has converted those signs. Weird. Okay, will fix.

[Shale]

Are we sure it isn't Dominate Monster?

Dominate Monster is a ninth-level spell and V has shown no signs of being able to use ninth-level spells. Plus it would be overkill here as Person works on kobolds.

[AlfredAmeoba]

Speaking of V's spells, she counterspelled a break enchantment in strip 800. Prior to that, however, she implies she has no way of turning Haley back to her normal form (also a standard action of break enchantment would be better served then a shrink item scroll). Unless I am mistaken, it would seem as if she had the improved counterspell feat, which would allow her to negate Zz'dtri's spell.

[Zevox]

Speaking of V's spells, she counterspelled a break enchantment in strip 800. Prior to that, however, she implies she has no way of turning Haley back to her normal form (also a standard action of break enchantment would be better served then a shrink item scroll). Unless I am mistaken, it would seem as if she had the improved counterspell feat, which would allow her to negate Zz'dtri's spell.

Except that you can counterspell anything with Dispel Magic or its Greater version, and we know she at least has the regular version.

Zevox

[RMS Oceanic]

I'd like to apologise to everyone for not being prompt with updates during my tenure. My work has been spiking a lot recently, which is why I often added things in lumps, as I would read the various discussions when I got a chance and chew them over in my head. I had in fact planned to do so once again when I discovered the thread had been locked.

I'm happy to leave the thread in Kurald's care for the time being. Like Wrecan before me, he knows the rules very well and hopefully will be able to respond more quickly than I have. We'll see how things are when the time comes for Geekery Thread VIII.

[Ekul]

Thank you, RMS Oceanic for hosting it when you did- geekery is fun.

Anyhow, the calculations I did in the previous thread support both the previous value and the 170+ value, it merely depends on whether he succeeded on his reflex save. The Shark tank damage value is sufficient for if he passed the save. Additionally, there's no way he made the save on the meteors- if they impacted him, there's no save.

My main concerns are that Xykon probably didn't miss the lightning bolt, which is the main question here, for a difference of 30 damage. Frankly, Xykon has a save of 13+Cha, (If 28 charisma, the save is 22, not counting other DC boosters Xykon probably has like spell focus or items) O-chul gets non-favored Reflex twice over- from Fighter and Paladin, as well as the fact that he probably doesn't have much dex to write home about. Let's assume 16 Dex, optimistically, and let's say we're playing with stackable saves. Under this, he's about level 11, give or take. 3 base +3 dex= 6. He could have added charisma, if it wasn't dismal. He may have cast Resistance (Paladin spell list), but we didn't see him do that. (Incidentally, the best thing he could have done would be to cast Resist Energy Fire, which would reduce every single meteor by 10 fire damage, but again, we don't know how many levels he has in Paladin.) He may have feats to boost his reflex as well, but nothing significant enough in core. Being as generous as we can be to O'chul, he's still got to be pretty lucky. But being even moderately generous to Xykon, O'chul has to get a nat 20.

Then again, we're arguing about something primarily luck based. So what about the picture itself? Does it look like he makes the save? I say no, but he might be sort of sidestepping it.

Some may say, why am I fixating on lightning bolt? Because it is fixed. It's either 30 or 60 since we didn't see him cast resist energy. It's also the only thing that's in any dispute. He made the fortitude save against Redcloak, and there's no save for a direct hit on Meteor Swarm. There may even be some stuff we didn't see in the Xykon vs O-chul fight, so maybe all we should do in this case is supply the lower 95% limit, which is either 170 or 140.

[EmperorSarda]

Speaking of V's spells, she counterspelled a break enchantment in strip 800. Prior to that, however, she implies she has no way of turning Haley back to her normal form (also a standard action of break enchantment would be better served then a shrink item scroll). Unless I am mistaken, it would seem as if she had the improved counterspell feat, which would allow her to negate Zz'dtri's spell.

Also Haley was most likely turned to stone during a surprise round, so V. didn't have a chance at counterspelling the Flesh to Stone spell.

[Illven]

Okay Kurald Galain

In the last thread some people made a point that Redcloak by the rules can't be lawful since he summoned a fiendish giant Octopus. Which makes Summon monster 7 a chaotic spell.

In addition on Carrying Roy

Since Roy's items would not need to be carried by Roy since he would not be fighting we could assume that the party puts his equipment in a bag of holding

Durkon carries Full plate, a Warhammer, bed roll, holy symbol (which can weigh no more than 1 pound) , and at most a heavy steel shield That's a total of 71 lbs. Add to the max weight Roy could have and you get 351. Which means Durkon can't have more than 19 strength.

Haley carries a longbow, leather armor, and 7 bags of holding where she stores her stuff however she can put the bags of holding into a bag of holding expect for one the heaviest of them are 60 pounds, So the total is 78 pounds. Add that to Roy's max weight and you get 357. Haley also can't have more than 19 strength.

For V we already know s/he has a strength penalty so there is no need to calculate

Elan has a rapier, a chain shirt, and a lute, and a bedroll which is 35 pounds. Add to Roy's max weight and you get 315. Which means Elan can't have more than 18 strength.

For Belkar he has two small daggers, and a small bedroll which is 2.25 pounds add that to Roy's max weight and you get 282.25. However since Belkar is small and can't carry as much as a medium creature His Strength still can't be higher than 19. So we know Belkar's strength is between 14-19.


What do you feel about this?

[Fitzclowningham]

This is minor, but Blackwing's HD should be 15+.

[RMS Oceanic]

Okay Kurald Galain

In the last thread some people made a point that Redcloak by the rules can't be lawful since he summoned a fiendish giant Octopus. Which makes Summon monster 7 a chaotic spell.

But Start of Darkness shows him using Hold Monster, a spell Clerics get only through the Law Domain. Can you take an alignment-based domain and not be that alignment?

[Claudius Maximus]

No, which is why my previous attempt to justify it with a Neutral Evil alignment was rejected. We have a contradiction here, technically.

[Shale]

And in the Ultimate Duel Between Clerics, he seemed to be unfamiliar with the Law Domain's spell list.

Confused, I am.

[Gift Jeraff]

In the last thread some people made a point that Redcloak by the rules can't be lawful since he summoned a fiendish giant Octopus. Which makes Summon monster 7 a chaotic spell.

I think I was the one who brought that up. There's no doubt in my mind that Redcloak is Lawful, and it's entirely possible that he summoned a LE/NE octopus, but it's also possible that he has a homebrewed domain or something. The former seems like the simplest solution, but until we have concrete evidence that he is Lawful, I say Redcloak should just be listed as "Evil."

Likewise, though there is no doubt in my mind that Xykon is Chaotic, I don't think the comic has ever explicitly said that. I could be wrong on that, though.