OOTS #883 - The Discussion Thread

[Waspinator]

Yeah, this isn't the first time a character has assumed they know V's gender. Until we have evidence that they actually know for sure, it doesn't mean much.

Anyway, I hope V can snap out of it and go help. The OotS really needs it right now.

[Alex Star]

I wonder just how many Channels Sabine has to flick through?

It's HELL... it's all Reality TV all the time... 1,000 Channels of Jersey Shore

[Shale]

Whoops, left Kilkil out of Panel #4. Fixed now.

I thought he was hiding or something. Or it was just an illustration of his contribution to the team.

Anyway....uh-oh.

[Sunken Valley]

Is that a piscoloth? Busting out of core again Rich?

[Lurkmoar]

Heh.

"History isn't over yet." Nice one.

[Snails]

Q'arr is like V's bad angel, where Blackwing is his good angel. Q'arr will probably try to get V back in action to help the Order, since his bosses want to keep the conflict going.

That makes sense. Tarquin seizing the Gate is very high on the list of things IFCC definitely does not want to happen, especially without Sabine around to "advise" Nale.

[Faili]

His dim-witted bird?

[Chad30]

You know, my opinion of Malack went up again with this one - this 'tiresome struggle' does feel like it needs its 'overdue conclusion', at times.

As for Qarr...I dunno what he's got in mind this time. It seems pretty obvious to me that the reason he skipped out earlier was to tell the IFCC that V killed the Draketooths; that was the only new and urgent information available at the time. My guess right now is that the fiends are gonna offer V some means of keeping the Gate safe, since Girard's defenses seem like they're running out. Or maybe he's just there to tell the elf that they're calling in the soul debt, in order to keep Xykon from taking the Gate. Just my immediate thoughts.

I'd be interested in seeing them do that.

[Faili]

I wonder just how many Channels Sabine has to flick through?

VampDurkon - so cute - expresion of helping

Infinite channels with nothing on.....

[StreamOfTheSky]

Two things:

1. Wow, I thought Durkon would have to re-dedicate himself to an evil god or cause before he got his spells back! I guess in this world, only Paladins have to suck on insanely harsh code rules.

2. If V *is* history's worst mass murderer, then Haerta must have never actually used Familiacide. Because even if she had also only used it once like V, I'm pretty sure her murder count from general "becoming an epic level necromancer" out takes dwarfs V's general murder count to date.

Which is good, I was pretty upset with the gross power of that spell and the fact that not one mention of the "unspeakably powerful godlike evil that once lived" had been mentioned in the comic. You don't just research and use a spell like that without it being remembered as a cataclysmic apocolyptic event. So confirmation it has never been used before helps make the versimilitude jive much more for me.

[Gift Jeraff]

So does Nale have his sword or not?

And I was curious if Vampire Durkon was going to have a different magic colour.

Also, I accidentally started to type this post in a report post text box...and the post was from The Giant.

[hamishspence]

Those two summoned monsters look like a barbed devil, and a piscoloth (a lobsterlike yugoloth).

[MoonCat]

V...

[Cikomyr]

His dim-witted bird?

Doesn't mean anything

[TRH]

Hey, I just realized - since Durkon can cast spells already, and obviously ones that a Lawful Good priest of Thor wouldn't be able to - we're not getting a scene where he chooses a new god to worship. Ergo, no first priest of Hel. Aww...

[MartectX]

Hee hee, nice one with the evil opposites...

[CoffeeIncluded]

2. If V *is* history's worst mass murderer, then Haerta must have never actually used Familiacide. Because even if she had also only used it once like V, I'm pretty sure her murder count from general "becoming an epic level necromancer" out takes dwarfs V's general murder count to date.

Which is good, I was pretty upset with the gross power of that spell and the fact that not one mention of the "unspeakably powerful godlike evil that once lived" had been mentioned in the comic. You don't just research and use a spell like that without it being remembered as a cataclysmic apocolyptic event. So confirmation it has never been used before helps make the versimilitude jive much more for me.

I saw it as more Qarr twisting the knife in V's chest even more.

[MelTorefas]

... Or maybe he's just there to tell the elf that they're calling in the soul debt, in order to keep Xykon from taking the Gate. Just my immediate thoughts.

Ooh, I had forgotten the soul debt for the moment. Interesting idea. I wonder if they might have to resort to using it to get V back on his/her feet just long enough to protect the gate.

[The Giant]

So does Nale have his sword or not?

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Whistles innocently.]

[KillianHawkeye]

Where did those summoning circles come from?

They're just a visual effect of the summoning spells.

[B. Dandelion]

Nale appears to be digging his own grave by being all haughty towards Zz'dtri like that. Way to potentially alienate the last person in the group who might have residual loyalty towards you, right after we saw your father treating him kindly and curing his deafness. I can't see this backfiring in any way, no sir.

[Tircey]

I have a funny feeling we're going ot have ot watch Malack very carefully here. He's not happy about working with Nale, promised Durkon to not harm his companions and quite frankly could probably wpe the floor with both Nale and Zzz'dri if he got pushed to far. (Especially with Durkon's help)

Anyone else think that Nale's going ot push Malack to far and regret it?

[stsasser]

Two things:

2. If V *is* history's worst mass murderer, then Haerta must have never actually used Familiacide. Because even if she had also only used it once like V, I'm pretty sure her murder count from general "becoming an epic level necromancer" out takes dwarfs V's general murder count to date.

Maybe Haerta used it on a much smaller, less closely-related family?

[Waspinator]

Durkon probably still has whatever spells he was granted this morning. He probably will need to change deities to get more, though.

[Quild]

It's HELL... it's all Reality TV all the time... 1,000 Channels of Jersey Shore

Isn't it the same than regular TV?

[Holy_Knight]

Two things:

1. Wow, I thought Durkon would have to re-dedicate himself to an evil god or cause before he got his spells back! I guess in this world, only Paladins have to suck on insanely harsh code rules.

I was wondering about that, too. Is Vampire Durkon now a cleric of Nergal by default?

Pretty interesting possibilities raised by this comic, too. I wonder if the IFCC's maneuverings might be the ace in the hole that keeps the rest of the Order and Nale alive. Very curious to see what role V may play now, as well.

[Pokonic]

It's HELL... it's all Reality TV all the time... 1,000 Channels of Jersey Shore

Naw, it's mostly reruns of The Life And Times of Faerun High. Just a bunch of unlikeble, overpowered jerks ignoring the fact that there mear existance hurts everything around them in ten mile radius.

2. If V *is* history's worst mass murderer, then Haerta must have never actually used Familiacide. Because even if she had also only used it once like V, I'm pretty sure her murder count from general "becoming an epic level necromancer" out takes dwarfs V's general murder count to date.

On two: Alternitivly, Haerta's use of it killed just as many sentinent beings as V's usage did, but as it was (hypotheticly) used on, say, humans or orcs, there numbers have been able to recover over the last few thousand years or so. Dragons, on the other hand? A thousand year's is a typical lifespan, and there population is lowish enough already that the Black Dragons will most likely never recover from the Familiacide.

[Rakoa]

Maybe Haerta used it on a much smaller, less closely-related family?

Most likely. Considering that the Ancient Black Dragon was...ancient, she likely had a whole lot of ancestors to slaughter.

[warmachine]

The author has artistic license to play fast and loose with D&D rules but vampire Durkon casting evil spells this soon is going too far. I doubt the story even needs a spellcasting vampire Durkon. Team Nale already has a divine and an arcane caster and Durkon no longer with OotS is itself a devastating blow.

[Another_Poet]

we're not getting a scene where he chooses a new god to worship. Ergo, no first priest of Hel. Aww...

I don't think Hel would be Evil?

Unless some D&D sourcebook decided she is...

I would assume Loki if he was sticking with the Norse gods, I believe we have (appropriately) seen him shown as Thor's rival once or twice in OOTS.

Then again, he lost the accent, he might not have any connection to his home culture. Just go with Malack's deity.