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Thread: I want to ride a dead horse
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2014-06-17, 12:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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I want to ride a dead horse
An undead warhorse. How do I acquire one wihout having access to animate dead? Can an ordinary fighter ride and control one? Control is important.
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2014-06-17, 12:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
The Bone Knight gets you...
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2014-06-17, 01:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Take ranks in Craft(taxidermy), nail wheels into its hooves, get your standard issue 50ft rope, tie it to a living horse, and ride away. Remarkably easy to control too.
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2014-06-18, 03:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Any other answers? Is there an item that grants command undead?
Now you're being rude, and I hate rude people.
-Hannibal Lecter
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2014-06-18, 07:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Control Undead is a 7th level spell, so unlikely to be early enough to use effectively.
You can also request a caster for a scroll of create undead (6th level spell) of sufficient caster level to create a Bone Creature (BoVD) or Corpse Creature (BoVD too) to create either a skeletal or gooey horse to ride. It's intelligent, so can understand orders as well as a normal horse can - you just need to use Handle Animal with a +5 to DC to do so.
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2014-06-18, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Night Caller is a whistle from Libris Mortis pg 79, that lets you animate up to 2 zombies under your control. Costs 7000 gp.
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2014-06-18, 08:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
I have to second Bone Knight. The steed advances as a special mount, and stacks with any paladin levels you have. I play a Fallen Paladin 10/Bone Knight 8 in one campaign. Not the most optimal build, but it's fun.
The Bone Knight gets some unique undead-based abilities as well that helps fit with the whole undead shtick, as well as having most of the Paladin class skills without being bound to a code if you have fallen paladin levels.
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2014-06-18, 08:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Undead Leadership lets you get skeletons and zombies as followers and even cohorts. A warhorse is a perfectly valid target for the skeleton template. I don't recommend zombie, because it only gets one move or one standard action per round and cannot run.
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2014-06-18, 08:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Shape Soulmeld: Necrocarnum Circlet + Open Least Chakra: Crown would let you animate a dead horse as a necrocarnum zombie.
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2014-06-18, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
You need to race the dead horse, and do it badly.
Because then all the other jockeys would be beating a dead horse.
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2014-06-18, 09:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Please name the dead horse "why can't you see monk are awesome" or "this is Lawful, right?" and beat it mercilessly whenever you're astride it.
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2014-06-18, 10:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
You could get a 'clockwork steed' from MM4 and have it made to look like a skeletal horse...
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2014-06-18, 11:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Undead leadership and a Pegasus with the bone creature template as a cohort.
You could also go with a Unicorn (or Black Unicorn) using the same.
Cut of wings or horn to taste.
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Could there be a fouler act? No doubt the Baron knows of one.Last edited by Hecuba; 2014-06-18 at 12:07 PM.
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2014-06-18, 12:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
My advice is to not do what Michael Jackson tells you.
EDIT: Sius already de that joke, and better. Oh well...Last edited by enderlord99; 2014-06-18 at 12:25 PM.
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2014-06-18, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
I think the dread animal rules (and the undead companion feat that requires it) in Ravenloft cover this. It's debatable at what tables those rules will be allowed outside that setting, though.
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2014-06-18, 02:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
A decent UMD roll and an eternal wand of command undead will get you unlimited control over 6 undead creatures of any HD, so long as they are mindless.
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2014-06-19, 12:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
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2014-06-19, 01:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Just beware the LM has specific rules for an undead mount. For example, Spurring it doesn't work anymore.
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2014-06-19, 09:08 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Warlock has an Animate Dead invocation but you're looking at 6th level. This is unlimited however so you could end up with a team of undead horses pulling your wagon around. But.. this is not available to a Fighter.
Blood~Last edited by Bloodgruve; 2014-06-19 at 09:14 AM.
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2014-06-19, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
I was thinking imbue with spell ability, but that doesn't work on level 3 necromancy spells. Someone already made a cheaper suggestion, but ring of spell storing (minor) comes to mind. It's 18,000, but after you use it to animate dead, you'll have a pretty sweet ring that can keep storing spells.
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2014-06-19, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
I've also seen some people suggest UMD or a level in Cleric. If you have either of those, you could just use a scroll of animate dead. Either way, even if you don't want to have animate dead as a class ability, it's the easiest way to make undead that you'll control.
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2014-06-19, 12:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Bone Knights are awesome. Went with this. Thanks for all the input. 👍
Now you're being rude, and I hate rude people.
-Hannibal Lecter
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2014-06-19, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-06-19, 05:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Best of all, you can share the whistle with the rest of the party so everyone can have two zombies each, even if all y'all use 'em for is luggage transportation/flying mounts for long distance travel.
What's the source or what are the sources on that?
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2014-06-19, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
Last edited by enderlord99; 2014-06-19 at 06:01 PM.
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2014-06-19, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
You could say, they are beating a dead horse, enderlord99.
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2014-06-19, 07:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: I want to ride a dead horse
I use braces (also known as "curly brackets") to indicate sarcasm. If there are none present, I probably believe what I am saying; should it turn out to be inaccurate trivia, please tell me rather than trying to play along with an apparent joke I don't know I'm making.
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2014-06-19, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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2014-06-19, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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