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    Default The Pyromancer

    Meant for sorcerers, although any spell caster with the fire spells can take levels... Charisma is primary score though.
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    The prerequisites should be tightened up - early entry is way too easy (especially considering it's MUCH better to take this class rather than straight sorcerer, ESPECIALLY considering the True Fire ability, which I think should ignore resistances but not immunities). Otherwise, has many nifty abilities!

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    added spellcraft 8 ranks, and overcoming immunities at 15th ECL seems alright to me as fire/cold immunity is rather common.
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    I like it a lot, blasty (fire) mages are something I enjoy. There's a lot of things I feel weird about though.

    What's the gain rate on the pool? Is it once per attack ignored, or by the damage you would have taken? What's the limit? If there isn't one, you could just nap in the camp fire and start the day ready to do thousands or millions of damage to something(s).

    The fact that the class seemingly wants you in a melee (or close to it) doesn't really fit having a d4 hit die. You have abilities that rely on taking (and then resisting) fire damage, and the best way to do that would be catching yourself in your own attacks (or hold a torch to your face).

    You need to put the fire immunity in the text.

    Flame Step is a huge movespeed boost, you'll have +100 movespeed by the tenth level. Just feels weird for a non-monk to easily get that without actually casting or gearing for it.

    Flame Burst can easily cover a massive area. 100+ feet, easily far larger. Potentially over a mile. Ever wanted to be a living nuke? Now we just need Radiation Damage.

    Flame Shield damaging weapons also feels weird, considering how it's a passive ability.

    Flaming Renewal seems redundant considering you already have Healing Flames. Can also easily reach 30+ regeneration passively.

    I'd suggest toning some things back, adjust numbers and stuff, and MAYBE up the hit die slightly. While it's a one-trick-pony, some numbers feel exceptionally high for what they should be. Still, I'd love to try it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SodaDarwin View Post
    I like it a lot, blasty (fire) mages are something I enjoy. There's a lot of things I feel weird about though.

    What's the gain rate on the pool? Is it once per attack ignored, or by the damage you would have taken? What's the limit? If there isn't one, you could just nap in the camp fire and start the day ready to do thousands or millions of damage to something(s).

    The fact that the class seemingly wants you in a melee (or close to it) doesn't really fit having a d4 hit die. You have abilities that rely on taking (and then resisting) fire damage, and the best way to do that would be catching yourself in your own attacks (or hold a torch to your face).

    You need to put the fire immunity in the text.

    Flame Step is a huge movespeed boost, you'll have +100 movespeed by the tenth level. Just feels weird for a non-monk to easily get that without actually casting or gearing for it.

    Flame Burst can easily cover a massive area. 100+ feet, easily far larger. Potentially over a mile. Ever wanted to be a living nuke? Now we just need Radiation Damage.

    Flame Shield damaging weapons also feels weird, considering how it's a passive ability.

    Flaming Renewal seems redundant considering you already have Healing Flames. Can also easily reach 30+ regeneration passively.

    I'd suggest toning some things back, adjust numbers and stuff, and MAYBE up the hit die slightly. While it's a one-trick-pony, some numbers feel exceptionally high for what they should be. Still, I'd love to try it.
    Ach, those are all good points, and will be fixed up tomorrow when I get back to working on it. Glad you like it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SodaDarwin View Post
    I like it a lot, blasty (fire) mages are something I enjoy. There's a lot of things I feel weird about though.

    What's the gain rate on the pool? Is it once per attack ignored, or by the damage you would have taken? What's the limit? If there isn't one, you could just nap in the camp fire and start the day ready to do thousands or millions of damage to something(s).
    Added a limit.
    The fact that the class seemingly wants you in a melee (or close to it) doesn't really fit having a d4 hit die. You have abilities that rely on taking (and then resisting) fire damage, and the best way to do that would be catching yourself in your own attacks (or hold a torch to your face).

    You need to put the fire immunity in the text.
    Upped HD, added to text
    Flame Step is a huge movespeed boost, you'll have +100 movespeed by the tenth level. Just feels weird for a non-monk to easily get that without actually casting or gearing for it.
    Took out move speed, kept the ability to travel through fire, put a limit on it.
    Flame Burst can easily cover a massive area. 100+ feet, easily far larger. Potentially over a mile. Ever wanted to be a living nuke? Now we just need Radiation Damage.
    Added Radiation damage.
    Nah, changed it 1/2 level*10, think it is better now, and evasion can still screw with it.
    Flame Shield damaging weapons also feels weird, considering how it's a passive ability.
    Fixed
    Flaming Renewal seems redundant considering you already have Healing Flames. Can also easily reach 30+ regeneration passively.
    I added this because most the time blasting is bad, especially compared to what can be done... Otherwise they can only get point whenever they take fire damage... Reduced it though, and will remove if it is still though to be redundant...
    I'd suggest toning some things back, adjust numbers and stuff, and MAYBE up the hit die slightly. While it's a one-trick-pony, some numbers feel exceptionally high for what they should be. Still, I'd love to try it.
    Feel free, just tell me how it goes.
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