OOTS #1132 - The Discussion Thread

[Pete]

"Is that how vampirism works? But what about--"
"Och, it's messy. How aboot we na get inta it right now?"

Is the Giant getting a bit meta here?

Sure looks like a nod to the forum.

[jwhouk]

I am also a bit concerned about the darkness in the background - but then again, this is Dwarven Heaven. They live underground, so naturally it's dark.

I'd also be concerned that Hel is going to bring up Durkon's comments on his Worst Day Ever. Thor better go to bat for him, or Durkon could just about snap on them all - and render the Godsmoot's proceedings moot.

Also - 63 posts in 32 minutes. Not bad.

[Peelee]

I'd also be concerned that Hel is going to bring up Durkon's comments on his Worst Day Ever.

I don't see why that would matter at all, since he didn't die on that day.

[TuringTest]

And after the emotional roller-coaster, we go back to the regular, non-world-threatening joke-of-the-week.

I'ts good to see good ol' Durkon standing on his feet, even if those are immaterial. I think we needed some stress relief.

[locksmith of lo]

OMG! i just checked earlier today, on the off-chance there would be a new comic, but no not on a friday after this onslaught of frequent updates!

[FlawedParadigm]

Oh. This is one of the few chances/sources the party would have for getting any information on RiftWorld without going there themselves. Durkon may be about to get some divine DL. We've seen Thor bend the rules for him before too.

[zinycor]

I actually want to see that. Mainly because I think Durkon speaking to Thor face to face might get him to rethink his taste in deity. It would be a great twist if Durkon returned to life, only to need to find a new god asap because he finally realized Thor wasn't worthy of him.

Why? Has Thor done anything bad that I haven't realized?

[Peelee]

Why? Has Thor done anything bad that I haven't realized?

Had more screentime than the other gods.

[AutomatedTeller]

Better than Hel, who found out her original High Priest was misappointed.


Even tied up in his head, he had armor but no shield/hammer. Imean, I agree with you, I'm just saying nothing's changed as far as Durkon's spirit is concerned.

He absolutely had a shield. Go back a page - it's on his back.

That was what I meant - he lost the shield moving to the afterlife. I doubt it means anything, just a little detail.

[Peelee]

He absolutely had a shield. Go back a page - it's on his back.

That was what I meant - he lost the shield moving to the afterlife. I doubt it means anything, just a little detail.

Well, look at me being wrong then. Joke's on you, though, I'm wrong like all the time.

[MartianInvader]

MINRAH! I'm so glad you weren't just discarded from the story once your battle usefulness was over.

[Ironsmith]

The heavy armor might have been more symbolic to a dwarf of their role as a cleric.

Given that they're also both wearing their holy symbols, I'm inclined to agree with this interpretation... though since they're both clerics of Thor, it does still beg the question of why neither of them have hammers, what with them being their deity's favored weapon and all.

[Shoelessgdowar]

Ah, divine justice takes many forms. Including confused clerics punching you in the nose.

OK, so we know Durkon's in heaven, and the vampire spirit Durkon^T ... isn't. I wonder if we'll ever find out what happened to it?

i mean... some of them have worked them out

assuming it even still exists it would go back to Hel

If the evil spirit is technically an outsider, then it's merged back into the plane it was born in - Hel's domain. It wouldn't exist as a discrete individual anymore.

I wouldn't be terribly unsatisfied with that, either. If that vampire's last moment was to be spent buckling under the weight of Sigdi's awesomeness, it'd only be fitting.

Technically it was a Dwarven Vampire (Or Vampiric Dwarf, either way) and Died in combat, so having Dwarf in its descriptors means that if it was not destroyed entirely, as per the bet, it too would go to Valhalla (Do not pass go, do not get $200, never see Hel again). Durkula, therefore, is gone for good.

Welcome to Valhalla! (PUNCH TO THE FACE).

I dunno, he could have gotten there during feast time.

Doesn't it make sense that in dwarven heaven you'd be greeted by a punch in the nose? Next the foaming mug!

Technically punch to the face and foaming mug are both possible greetings in Valhalla, as Keltest implies, there are two main parts of the Valhalla day, the Battle Time and the Feast Time... Actually makes sense that Minrah and Durkon arrived early in the Day, so Battle Time, as Feast Time is more an end of the Day sort of thing.

[IntelectPaladin]

The emotional roller hasn't excatly stopped, just in a lull. They've still lost him until/unless he's revived.
And didn't they have to spend a good bit of that on the crew?

[KorvinStarmast]

Wherever it is that Durkon and Minrah are hanging out looks a little different from where Roy and Eugene were, but that might be because of art style changes. That said, I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that dwarves have a different heavenly foyer, since their afterlife mechanics are so different.

Makes sense.
1. Yay Minrah! Glad to see her back on screen. (I carry my fists in my heart is a nice line; she started out as a Fighter)
2. Yay Durkon, in general, being Durkon again.
3. The cat's OK. Chuckled, I did.

Thanks Giant, that's a fun strip right there.

[Goremplotz]

"very low level disguise magic"

hilarious!

[edit]and good to see Durkon^TM in kind of an honorable-dwarves-heaven, as evidenced by the presence of Minrah.[/edit]

[Fyraltari]

Afterlife yay!
Well Durkon#2 did not make it to Valhalla. I hope he gets oblivion (rather than Hel).

I also hope Minrah tells Durkon the name of his on. (Though she may not know it is his son, I'm not sure.)

I wonder if the secrets of where dwarven souls go after death are about to be revealed...

What secret? Should they die with honor they get everybody else's deal, else they go to Hel.

Also, I wonder if Durkon ever saw Minrah? Does he know who she was? I think he only saw what Durkon^T let him see (or drug him by the beard to see).

They just fought.
Durkon could see everything Durkon^T could (provided he was looking) as proved by the strip wher watching Durkon^T do magic to the staff brings him memories of playing with his cousin.

It looks more like the judgment waiting area to me.

Me too.

Maybe? More concerned about him meeting Hel, TBH. Although he and Minrah seem to have skipped directly to cloud-land, so maybe they were so clear-cut heroism deaths they don't even have to wait for Thor and Hel to dicker it out.

They only argue the grey areas. This is as clear-cut as it can be.

Welcome to Valhalla! (PUNCH TO THE FACE).

THAT'S THE SPIRIT!

Why? Has Thor done anything bad that I haven't realized?

People aren'yt forgiving for his part in The BetTM.

[~Corvus~]

I like how the cat's now considered part of the group.

...I guess if a Housecat is a threat to goblin peasants then...yeah it makes sense.

[Peelee]

Technically it was a Dwarven Vampire (Or Vampiric Dwarf, either way) and Died in combat, so having Dwarf in its descriptors means that if it was not destroyed entirely, as per the bet, it too would go to Valhalla (Do not pass go, do not get $200, never see Hel again).

The bet was that Hel gets default dominion over Dwarves, except for certain exceptions. Nothing about it says they go to either Hel or Valhalla, and those are the only choices. Especially since Thor keeps the normal arrangement.

[Draconi Redfir]

admittedly, i thought Minrah was just unconcious. Hope none of the others died :S

Still, Dwarven afterlife! Wonder how much of it we'll get to see

[TuringTest]

Have we seen a flashback to Roy's time on the clouds? Wherever it is that Durkon and Minrah are hanging out looks a little different from where Roy and Eugene were, but that might be because of art style changes. That said, I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that dwarves have a different heavenly foyer, since their afterlife mechanics are so different.

Different afterlife, I'd say. Legal Good afterlife didn't have hills in the background, just that lone neverending mountain. (Although that could be merely an effect of the art upgrade).


I have to wonder... We know that clerics and wizards can contact people from below, right? Will Durkon be able to communicate with Roy using a simple Sending spell?

I am anticipating Durkon meeting Thor

Oh gosh! I hope Thor lives up to expectations! I wouldn't want Durkon to be disappointed, after his heroic death.

[zinycor]

People aren'yt forgiving for his part in The BetTM.

¿¿?? By people you mean Hel? that's pretty much the only person I can see being upset to thor over the bet. Don't see why Durkon would care about that. Hell, he might already know about it.

[KorvinStarmast]

admittedly, i thought Minrah was just unconcious. Hope none of the others died :S

Still, Dwarven afterlife! Wonder how much of it we'll get to see

Note the X's in the eyes in the panel during, and after, the empowered flame strike from Hilgya. X's in eyes is an OOTS indicator of being dead.

[Snails]

Go Minrah!

"The cat's probably fine."

Let's see:
1) cuddles with a lizard
2) doesn't chase the talking bird
3) was owned by Shojo and Belkar
4) calously eviscerates commoners

If ever there was a cat with emotional issues...

1) puts an allosaurus in its place as a walking throw pillow
2) deigned to not eat the talking bird (the bird using a wand was convincing)
3a) owned a human ruler of a city with obedient paladins to keep the litter box clean
3b) now owns a sexy shoeless god of war
4) callously eviscerates commoners
5) kicked a wolf's ass

This seems like pretty much a cat fantasy. (Granted: eating the bird might have been nice.)

[hroþila]

I imagine there's not a place where dwarven souls go to be picked by either Hel or Thor. Rather, when Hel thinks she has a good case, she merely takes her souls down with her, and then Thor has to go visit her if he wants to reclaim one. Both arguing scenes took place in Niflheim, after all.

[Stabbey]

I think Hel and Thor fighting over a soul is only for edge cases. Dying in combat or dying of old age probably skips the step unless there's a really, really good argument.


Minrah can tell Durkon the reason for his exile was the prophecy of death and destruction, and that has come to pass. That might be enough to get him to return if he's called for resurrection.

[zinycor]

Go Minrah!

"The cat's probably fine."

Let's see:
1) cuddles with a lizard
2) doesn't chase the talking bird
3) was owned by Shojo and Belkar
4) calously eviscerates commoners

If ever there was a cat with emotional issues...

The only weird thing there is the cat not eating the bird, Which is an proof of Mr. scruffy being a noble soul. better than any other Cat xD.

And, Mr scruffy owned shojo and Belkar, not the other way around.

[Fyraltari]

¿¿?? By people you mean Hel? that's pretty much the only person I can see being upset to thor over the bet. Don't see why Durkon would care about that. Hell, he might already know about it.

Don't have the courage to go dig old threads right now, but I remember several posters not considering advanced ebriety to be cause of forgiveness for being complicit in creating a system that condemn people to a near-eternity of suffering at random. Considering said ebriety happened near Loki, that's a good point.

[Snails]

The only weird thing there is the cat not eating the bird, Which is an proof of Mr. scruffy being a noble soul. better than any other Cat xD.

Probably his majesty, Mr. Scruffy, is too dignified to eat crow.

[skim172]

Hey now, Durkon. What about Roy's little bag of critters? Those fellas seem to be very well-adjusted, considering they manage to get along together living in a tiny bag. Anyone who'd lived with roommates can tell you - you can't share a cramped living space with people with personality issues