OOTS #309 - The Discussion Thread

[Nightmarenny]

"Female"

Virgin, a Rouge, Good, a good girl,

[jmaccabeus]

Sane...

[Brasswatchman]

"Female"

"Honest"?

:D Might not be much of a secret, except in Haley's mind.

[EscherEnigma]

gar! I see the comic up, read, translate, and come back here to find... four pages? so sad! and knowing my luck, theres theres much more in the time it took for me to read the posts and write my own.

Anyway.

I concur with the translations already given, they're what I found. Also, this is a perfect example of why someone who's tech savvy needs to write a cipher program for the giant so that haley-speak takes barely more time then non-haley-speak.

Also, I find her secrets (mostly the ones in the middle) quite amusing. "I cheat at solitaire! I have a tattoo! I kissed a girl once!" heheh.

Well, can't wait till next week monday to see the exciting conclusion. What? C'mon, we're CLEARLY going to someone else for wednesday, and my bet is that if friday DOES come back to Elan/Haley, it'll leave off at a cliff hanger. But I really don't think that we'll have another month of haley-speak, this feels like it's wrapping up soon some way or other. maybe a vow of silence if she can't find the right secret?

[zibeck]

Speculation Spoiler:
a natural red-head

Also, I want to point out the "Not even V knows about that one...." The pretty much implies that V knows the other secrets, including the one about her father.

More Speculation:
Also, I wonder who the girl Haley kissed was. Could it (in her mind) be V?

[Leo_Forestclaw]

The only ends to that sentence I've got so far are "Alive", "Single" or "Human"...
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Mod Please delete if this falls into spoiler territory but would it be improper to point out that Sabine is Haley's opposite and if memory serves, Rich has suggested elsewhere that they are opposites in more than a few ways...

Also, almost spit Mt. Dew all over keyboard after reading the speculation spoiler above... LMAO!

[Trog]

"Honest"?

:D Might not be much of a secret, except in Haley's mind.

Good call. She's lied about anything to do with treasure since the beginning (big bag 'o Haley's loot, the 5 rocks, etc.). It goes to the core of her personality and applies to nearly anything else that you think could fill in that blank.

Obviously we all know that she's not honest so this honest statement out of her would not be a huge revelation to the readers but would be to the other characters. That way Rich can make this seem like a cliffhanger and really not comit to revealing anything new at all in the near future (or he could be using this as a story placeholder for a future revelation not yet thought up.)

Or not. The suspense is killing me! ;D

[theKOT]

I'd say all of those are good guesses. Howzabout "Single", as in she is married? Yeah right, I know, but I'm just throwin it out there.

(when I first read the comic)Anyway, this was really good. It would have been way to predictable for her to just say that she loved him.
(now) ARG! Stupid cliffhanger! WHY WHY WHY!!!!!

yes well..... You know, giant, you should draw up a cypher, plug it into a program, then input what you want Haley to say. It would save time.

[Rethorn]

... A natural redhead.

That MUST be it.

[Culwch]

On a side note, what if Haley _does_ know what gender is V? :) That would be one hell of a secret ;D

[Trog]

... A natural redhead.

That MUST be it.

Actually, probably not. If you go back and look at that comic where Haley is goth you will note that her hair is black but with red roots. Loooved the roots, btw, Rich. I laughed out loud when I saw that. :)

[FlawedParadigm]

On a side note, what if Haley _does_ know what gender is V? :) That would be one hell of a secret ;D

Especially if "not even V knows about that one"...yipes!

[Vargtass]

Haley must be a natural redhead, otherwise the mystic prophesy of Eugene would not have been accurate. "When the goat turns red strikes true".

[Edna]

Oh, and what kind of creepy chinese food has croutons?

Elan ordered her a salad, not Chinese food.

Edna

[Ing]

i'm gonna go with human, say she's some sort of planetouched....just cause someone pointed out the evil twin part.

[Krimm_Blackleaf]

"Look, the salt and pepper shakers are fighting!" That sounds like something I'd do on a date. ;)

hahahaha! i HAVE done this on a date before! ironically with the girl i'm engaged to now XD

[theKOT]

Elan: "Pow! Bam!"
He must be Emeril in disguise!!!

[divine]

What the hell, I had a post on the first page. Where did it go?

The Voice of Mod: I deleted it. Posting just for the sake of placeholding your spot on the first page, or posting just to say "First page!" both are considered spam and are deleted as soon as any moderator sees it.

thank you! it is soooo annoying seeing people post with absolutely nothing to say but "yay! first page!" as if that means anything.. really people .. it doesn't, get over it..
anyway, great strip as usual, I hope Haley realizes that Elan is too dense to appreciate her anyway :-X

[Sc00by]

Poor, poor haley. In love with an idiot and with a secret to tell...

Big thanks to those that did the translating thing. You guys Rock

Big thanks also to the Giant for making me laugh on a miserable Tuesday morning!

[Keldar]

... Sabine is Haley's opposite and if memory serves, Rich has suggested elsewhere that they are opposites in more than a few ways...

... A natural redhead.

That MUST be it.

In and of themselves, both these comments were pretty funny. But then I remembered something that linked them together, namely Comic #53:

Haley: What, you mean other than the fact that you're an evil skank?
Sabine: Oh, no, you didn't just go there, dyejob.
Haley: HEY, this hair color is all-natural!
Sabine: Yeah, natural hair dye.
Haley: Oh, I am SO gonna have to kick your ass now!

Of course, this is assuming that Sabine wasn't just making stuff up to tick Haley off. But hey, wouldn't it really make Haley angry if Sabine thought she was just making it up but happened to be right anyway?

[evileeyore]

Awesome comic.

I hate to say best one yet, as really they've all been top notch the last couple of weeks.

[theKOT]

Goth Haley has red roots,
And "When the goat turns, RED strikes true/

[Mateo]

Sorry about that, I forgot to leave time for translating Haleyspeak.

It should be a fairly easy translation this time, I practically gave it to you...

Elan rocks my socks Rich! What a great character!

[tee_kay_one]

gvgvgvgv...
Aww man, Elan, come on! Get focussed! That girl is suffering right in front of your silly joker face!! ;D

Sorry, had to say that. Besides -- AAAAAAAARGH, WHAT IS IT, WHAT IS THE LAST SECRET!
Ich halts nicht aus.
Can't wait for the next comic -- although because I read this comic for some time now I KNOW that the Giant is very very cruel -- there will be the other plotlines first, I'm sure...

[AzSteven]

Poor Haley! Of course, I guess this is pretty much exactly what dinner with Elan would be like...

[tis_tom]

Hey does this imply that V knows all about Hayley's father?

[Nerd-o-rama]

Glee. Glee to the max.

Also,

N tnbbye h pnfr dwly. DT, DT, udfy ckhw dwly!

Woo!

It's also good to hear English from Haley again, even in her thoughts. I rather missed it.

[Evik]

yay i cant wait for the rest of the story!
hehehe soo i will be able to see if my private predictions are true!! Muah hahahaaaaa

[Terrafire]

Technically, she's not telling him anything, since he can't understand her. She'll have to find some way to communicate it wordlessly.

She just has to be WILLING to tell it. She doesn't have to actually tell it. O_o

In retrospect, we all should have known that Haley's revelation of her love for Elan shouldn't have cured her. She tells Elan that she loves him during their abortive attempt to break out of the cells (right after he says he believes in her)

Every one of the secrets in this comic was said with the intention of letting Elan know. Before, anything she said (Like "I'm in love") was only said BECAUSE she knew Elan couldn't understand, so she wasn't willing to reveal the secret, so her condition stayed.

[Holy_Knight]

Another good one (eh, they're all good, but still...). Making the salt and pepepr shakers fight is totally something I would do too... one more reason for me to identify with Elan, I guess! I also sympathize quite a bit with Haley actually, because I had a similar affliction for awhile. In college I had laryngitis for ten days, and I had to carry around a pad of paper and a pen all the time to communicate with people. Or, in my room, I would write on the dry erase board and tap on it to get my roommate's attention... it was both a hassle for me, andmy friends got pretty tired of it all too... poor Haley! I know your pain, sort of at least!

Anyway, back to the strip... Elan is funny as always. I laughed really hard at "I think 'rdjy' means 'salad'", not only because of the situation, but because as readers we can tell that that must be wrong because the number of letters don't match, which goes along with Elan's typical level of intelligence!

Something else I don't think has been pointed out yet is that this is even more evidence of just how nice a guy Elan really is. A lot of people would be really irritated having to spend an evening alone with someone speaking gibberish, even if it was a friend, but Elan is as happy as always.

Finally, the suspense may kill me, but I have a theory. I guess it's off to the spoiler thread for me now...