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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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Many invocations list verbal and somatic components. However, they are SLAs, so I would assume that unless listed, they would be purely mental actions, right? For example, the Warlock's Eldritch Blast and the Dragonfire Adept's Magic Insight (Dragon Magic, 81) both, so far as I can tell, fail to list any spellcasting components.Would they then be purely mental actions?
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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All invocations have quite explicitly somatic components (and accordingly ASF), and therefore ain't purely mental actions.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
W.R.T. A61
- Eldritch Blast isn't an invocation, so it should be purely mental, right?
- Unless it's printed somewhere else, this is all the info I can find on Magic Insight:
Spoiler: Magic Insight
Least; 2nd
You can use detect magic as the spell (PH 219). While the invocation is active, you can end the effect as a full-round action to determine all the properties of a single touched item (as the identify spell, PH 243, but with no components required).
As I said, it doesn't seem to explicitly have verbal or somatic components, as other invocations do. Would it be purely mental then?
Edit: Dragonfire Adepts also have the line that all invocations have somatic components, meaning dragonfire invocations should fall under the Warlock restriction, too.
I've also spotted the line in Warlock as well, and it also explicitly mentions EB. Sad.Last edited by Doctor Despair; 2020-12-12 at 06:59 PM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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Is there any rule covering the case where characters try to move though an obstacle they weren't aware was present, like an invisible forcefield? Or if they try to charge or run through the same?Spoiler
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
I dont remember a clear rule in the books, but I would rule it like this: The player takes his move action, begins to move up his speed and runs into the barrier. He can not proceed (usually) but can still move around it as long as he still has some movement for the round left. If it was something like a web, he may get a Ref SV to stop himself from running into it, otherwise apply the rules for web, quicksand or whatever you use.
For charge or run: Since you cant change your direction in those cases and cant split the movement either, you would just stop short of were you wanted to go.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Q 64
Hitting your ally by chance: It comes up every now and then and I think I read something alike, but I cant find the exact rule.
Is there actually a chance to hit your ally if you
a) range attack into melee or b) melee attack into a grapple? Or was it only ranged into grapple?
Or is it just the normal attack modifiers? (-4 for ranged into melee I believe)
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Can you hold a 2HW in 1 hand? - Not wielding it of course, but to use the other hand?
For example, you use a reach weapon, but the enemy is in your face, can you hold onto your weapon and just punch him in the face with your fist?Last edited by Bobur; 2020-12-14 at 04:07 AM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
A 64 only for ranged attack into grapple.
A65 Yes. I think the rule is in the spellcasting section - it allows the wielder to take their hand off the weapon to cast a spell.
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Does the church inquisitor's pierce illusion ability activate when the inquisitor is in presence of a creature subject to a invisibility spell? I'm asking since the exact wording of the ability requires that the inquisitor has "visual contact" with the spell - is here line of sight meant? How should I otherwise translate the ability to "see" an invisibility spell?
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Q67 Question about Steely Resolve from the Crusader (ToB pg.10) emphasis mine:
When an opponent strikes you, the injury does not immediately affect you. You have a delayed damage pool that allows you to forestall the effects of many injuries. This pool begins at 0 with each encounter. When you are attacked, any hit point damage the blow deals is added to your delayed damage pool
- Voluntary damage from magic items, feats or class abilities (example Bands of Blood Rage from MIC, a Frenzied Berserker's frenzy)
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- Environmental damage such as fire, a blizzard, dropping into a pool of acid
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- Damage from traps or spell wards (glyph of blasting, a door that disintegrates those who touch it and you make your save)
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
A 67
>When an opponent strikes you, the injury does not immediately affect you.
This part is flavor text.
>When you are attacked
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Q 68
Is precision damage untyped damage?
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Yes.
You have to see it. Since it is invisible, this may be tricky.
You'd be incorrect. "Attack" here is not limited to attack rolls; it uses the broader definition seen with spells such as invisibility. How do we know this? Because the following paragraph uses a gaze attack as an example.Rhymes with "Protracted."
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
A 68 No, precision damage has the same type as the attack that inflicts it. So, a sneak attack with a bow and arrow inflicts piercing damage, but with a club bludgeoning damage.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Entirely correct; just to expand, it is possible to do precision damage with weaponlike spells (spells requiring an attack roll) like rays, and the sneak attack damage is still the same energy type (fire, cold, etc.) as the spell. The Complete Arcane note the exception of spells that deals energy drain or ability damage, which deal negative energy damage (not extra energy drain or ability damage).
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Q69 The Half-Dragon template states, "A half-dragon that is Medium or smaller does not have wings." What if the base creature had wings to start with, example Half-Dragon Tressym? Does the creature lose those wings by RAW?
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No, the line means a Medium or smaller half-dragon does not gain wings through the template. If already with wings, the character keep them, they just aren't the draconic-looking wings of a half-dragon.Spoiler
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A level 10 Planar Wizard can add the alignment descriptor of his choice to his spells, gaining a bonus against creatures of the opposite alignment, and this bonus is doubled if the spell already has the same alignment descriptor.
What if the wizard also uses a separate trick that adds an alignment descriptor to his spells? (Like Consecrate/Purified Spell, Corrupt/Violate Spell, mark of the enlightened soul, touch of the blackened soul, etc.) Is the bonus doubled if the two alignment descriptor matches?
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The Heroes of Horror sourcebook introduces a variant rule when casting spells with the evil descriptor (basically, a SAN check: a Will save, which if failed adds depravity taint). If this rule is used, shall the save applies also to spells gaining the evil descriptor through an additional trick? (Aligned Spellcaster, Planar Wizard, Corrupt Spell, Violate Spell, touch of the blackened soul...)Last edited by St Fan; 2020-12-15 at 05:59 AM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Cont A 67
This is incorrect, the gaze attack is used as an example of something Steely Resolve does not affect:
SpoilerOriginally Posted by Crusader
What if a gaze attack dealt damage? Since "a creature with a gaze attack can actively attempt to use its gaze as an attack action", it might count as an attack. The text excludes "special effects tied to an attack", but this seems to mean effects other than hit point damage. So steely resolve would probably apply against a gaze attack that dealt damage if it were "used actively as an attack action".
Other special abilities don't have this "as an attack action" clause though. Nothing suggests steely resolve uses a nonstandard definition of attack the way invisibility does.Last edited by Elves; 2020-12-15 at 02:15 PM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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A fighter masters both Robilar's Gambit (Player's Handbook II) and Grappling Block (Oriental Adventure).
A) While using Robilar's Gambit, he can choose to make an attack of opportunity at any attacker that miss. However, on the first armed attack that hits, can he choose to use his once-a-round Grappling Block attempt instead?
B) Whatever the case, he cannot make both the Robilar's Gambit-granted AoO and the Grappling Block on the same swing, based on the rule that the same action cannot provoke two attacks of opportunity, right?Spoiler
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Cont A 67
Right so would that mean that only damage otherwise tied to another creature attacking the crusader is able to be delayed in steely resolve?
No AoE, no burning auras, no falling damage, no self-inflicted stuff?
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
The fact that a gaze attack is used as an example of an effect that doesn't work specifically because it doesn't deal damage proves that it would work if it did deal damage. So, yes, it works on AoEs. You can also see the same definition of "attack" at work in the level 3 zealous surge ability, which lists spells as a type of attack, and in the level 13 mettle ability, which describes Will half and Fortitude partial effects as attacks. If you used the stricter version of the term, it would be a major nerf to the mettle ability, limiting it to just effects that have an attack roll and a save.
It's up to your DM to decide whether it works on self-inflicted or environmental damage, but it would make sense for it to do so.Last edited by Troacctid; 2020-12-16 at 02:41 PM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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By RAW, a dead creature is neither undead nor living, so it would not be affected; a dead creature is an object. RAI, it would certainly be reasonable, but requires a compliant DM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
Yeah, not unless the effect either involves an attack roll or, like a gaze attack, "counts as an attack action". It would still apply against attacks you make against yourself.
It would apply against a gaze attack that dealt damage, but it doesn't follow that it would therefore apply against an AOE spell that isn't classified as an attack.
If steely resolve applied against all damage, it would say so instead of "when you're attacked". There's a RAW game definition of attack. When invisibility creates an alternative definition, it says so explicitly. Crusader doesn't so RAW is to use the glossary definition.Last edited by Elves; 2020-12-16 at 12:55 PM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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does pa multiplier from leap attack carry over to follow up pounce attack?
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
A 75 What are you asking? If you make a leap attack while pouncing, do you get the extra damage? If so, yes.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
A#75: Leap attack talks about a single powerful attack. You charge, you jump and get 1 powerful attack.
"You can combine a powerful charge and a mighty leap into one devastating attack....."
The charge modifier to attack and AC still applies though.
Q#76: If you want to fight with 2 weapons, can you make the 2nd attack only during a full attack or any time that you can use an attack action?
I thought it would only work during a full attack, but "you can get one extra attack per round with that weapon" only says per attack. So could I charge and use both weapons for the attack? Or an attack of opportunity if I havent used the extra attack yet?
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AQ#76: Never mind. I found the answer under the Full round action rules. There is says that you have to use the Full attack to use it... pretty meh.Last edited by Bobur; 2020-12-18 at 12:56 PM.
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Re: Simple RAW Thread for 3.5 #36: The Triple Dozen
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if you have pounce and charge using power attack and heedless charge from shock trooper do the attacks from pounce benefit from shock trooper?