Results 61 to 90 of 106
-
2021-08-25, 10:16 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
There are two "lightning and sand" shots - one at 2:13, and the one you two are discussing at 2:27. The latter one could potentially be dust being thrown/churned up by the lightning, but the former definitely isn't - the sand is swirling in the air before the lightning even touches the ground. Personally I don't think it's a coincidence that both times we see lightning we see sand as well.
I assume you meant the events of Endgame in the bold bit there.
However, you're also assuming he can do that. The time stone he has was present for the events of Endgame, by virtue of having been borrowed from the past and used for the Third Snap (to bring everyone back) and the Fourth Snap (to kill Thanos and his army), then returned to the past of that same timeline without creating a branch. So seeing far enough to know "we succeed in undoing the Snap" doesn't mean he saw anything past Endgame where there is no more time stone.
See above - that he saw a bunch of possibilities and identified the one with the Third and Fourth Snaps as the "right one" doesn't tell us how far past those events he Saw.
This too. As I mentioned in an earlier post, it's quite possible that everything Strange saw with his divinations, however far they went, is now invalid.Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2021-08-25, 03:03 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2009
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
"That's a horrible idea! What time?"
T-Shirt given to me by a good friend.. "in fairness, I was unsupervised at the time".
-
2021-08-25, 03:57 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Stupendous Man drawn by Linklele
-
2021-08-25, 04:24 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2014
-
2021-08-25, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2007
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Or the spell Strange casts changes things. Hard to press charges on someone when you don't know who they are.
-
2021-08-25, 06:55 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Can someone explain to me how / why people think Dr. Strange is a Skrull?
If we had a Skrull Spellcaster, wouldn't he pick something else if he were doing a world changing spell?Stupendous Man drawn by Linklele
-
2021-08-25, 07:01 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2021
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Sure.
A portion of Forum Goers, including me, feel that the Dr. Strange in the preview is acting somewhat out of character.
A subset of that group, NOT including me, feel that this will turn out to NOT be Dr. Strange but someone masquerading as Strange, or someone mind-controlling Strange and that's why he's acting out of character.
A subset of that group hypothesis that the imposter might be a Skrull.
Explained.
-
2021-08-25, 07:31 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2005
- Location
- Northern Virginia
- Gender
-
2021-08-25, 09:37 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Last edited by Psyren; 2021-08-25 at 09:52 PM.
Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2021-08-25, 10:44 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2013
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
To build on this, Marvel has already used the "x character was secretly a Skrull" to poke fun at a character acting out of character (in a way that was necessary for the movie to happen) in a related movie to this one.
Spoiler: spoilerI'm talking about Far From Home, where the end-credits scene showed that "Nick Fury" was actually a Skrull the whole time.
So the idea has already been planted in the viewer's mind, and Marvel is known for taking casual throwbacks and making them plot points. I don't think we're going to have Skrull!Strange, but I can see the train of thought.
-
2021-08-26, 07:27 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2008
- Location
- Orlando, FL
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Again, "wibbly-wobbly". I think the term fits perfectly here.
Yes, I meant Endgame. That typo is on me.
And yes, there are assumptions here. I mean, we all are speculating theories here (it's a big part of the discussion, no?). ;)
Until the movie says that Strange couldn't do that, the possibility remains that he could have.
If Tony believed in me the way he belied in Parker, I personally would pick Tony to vouch for me. Would it be a hot mess in the court room?
Probably! But somehow Tony manages to make it work out in the end. ... except maybe for the Ultron incident, but it was that one time. XDLast edited by DigoDragon; 2021-08-26 at 07:31 AM.
-
2021-08-26, 07:53 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Dec 2013
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Tony never ended up in Jail even when he was actively engaging in highly illegal international military action. You could do far, far worse than to have Stark in your legal corner.
Although it begs the question. Parker isnt officially an Avenger, but he is Stark's protege and presumably is officially registered under the Sokovia Accords. So maybe he's not in trouble for the death of Mysterio in and of itself, but for going off the books, just giving away all that tech without consulting the office, and never calling the incident in. And he gets let out because he did try and ask for help and Nick Fury shut him down.Last edited by Keltest; 2021-08-26 at 07:58 AM.
“Evil is evil. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
-
2021-08-26, 10:34 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2006
- Location
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
But can people explain to me why a Skrull magician choose to cast a world ending spell, a spell that he volunteers when asked ( he could always say no ), where he gets pushback from his colleagues Wong, and he still does it.
Why would a Skrull who is trying to remain secret do such a thing? A Skrull must have a goal even if the goal is just to remain secret, what goal is this furthering? And why didn’t he do world changing spell prior to Peter asking him? What makes this specific request special?Stupendous Man drawn by Linklele
-
2021-08-26, 10:57 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2011
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Originally Posted by Keltest
Parker isnt officially an Avenger….
-
2021-08-26, 11:03 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jun 2021
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
It's a WILD and BASELESS speculation. Why would we need to explain... you know what, never mind.
Here's why. The Skrull WANTS to end life on earth to make way for Skrull colonization. You see unlike the nice skrulls from Captain Marvel, this Skrull works for the evil skrulls that want to colonize earth. However, when they super-skrulled him up, he ended up with powers over Magic which have all kinds of dumb rules they didn't account for. Why oh why couldn't he just get Thor powers or Giant-man powers. Why did he have to end up with ridiculous Dr. Strange powers.
He tried casting a spell to destroy all life and it didn't work. But he figured out he needs a focus, a well-meaning shlub to make an ill-conceived wish that can power the magic.
So when Peter comes asking for a simple "make everyone forget" spell he realizes this is a chance to use Peter as the focus for this spell.
As an aside, this also allows him to pass the buck, the shift the blame. So that when anyone comes looking for who did this terrible thing, he can point them to Peter instead of himself.
So he starts casting the spell but the Peter starts interrupting. The Skrull didn't anticipate that he focus could affect the spell JUST BY TALKING. If only he understood these whack dumb powers better. So at the end it DOESN'T wipe out all the humans, just does something else stupid. Rips open space time and dumps a bunch of multiversal garbage into the world.
There. That's why. That's your answer.Last edited by Wintermoot; 2021-08-26 at 11:04 AM.
-
2021-08-26, 11:21 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2021-08-26, 02:45 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2019
- Location
- Wyoming
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
And by adding the word "Multiverse" they transformed their incompetence into genius.
Knowledge brings the sting of disillusionment, but the pain teaches perspective.
"You know it's all fake right?"
"...yeah, but it makes me feel better."
-
2021-08-26, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
The line between incompetence and genius is branding
Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2021-08-26, 07:12 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2015
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
I wouldn't call it genius, more like acceptance.
Comic book style superhero worlds fundamentally don't work. They lack verisimilitude is massive ways that there simply is no easy way to write around. It's possible to write around this for a while, and Marvel materialized a truly massive bag of tricks in order to do so, but eventually the strain grows too great. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, a show widely criticized for issues that in most cases traced to the impossibility of building a coherent backdrop to sustain its story, represents the first real casualty of this issue. Marvel smartly, rather than trying to sustain a coherent storyline, has decided to break coherency entirely an embrace the madness (to some extent they were already doing this, with movies like Thor: Ragnarok). At some point going weird is the only option, and honestly, I give Marvel credit for going weird in a big way, even if it will mean their future stories are rather less approachable than before.
-
2021-08-26, 07:15 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jul 2019
- Location
- Wyoming
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Knowledge brings the sting of disillusionment, but the pain teaches perspective.
"You know it's all fake right?"
"...yeah, but it makes me feel better."
-
2021-08-26, 08:32 PM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2021-08-27, 04:57 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Switzerland
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Sam Raimi's Spiderman was 19 years ago now. Not everyone will have seen it, including many teenagers, who are a main audience. I mean, it's probably watchable without knowing exactly who Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus from these movies are, but still.
Resident Vancian Apologist
-
2021-08-27, 04:59 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Jan 2007
- Location
- Switzerland
- Gender
-
2021-08-27, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Nov 2019
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
If they're basing this on the One More Day comics plotline, which also featured Spiderman trying to find a way to erase knowledge of his secret identity, then
Spoilermy money's on Mephisto, and introducing a wish-granting devil is a lot less jarring if Dr Strange is also involved.
(And considering how poorly received One More Day was, that's a pretty gutsy move, but Civil War also improved greatly in adaptation.)Last edited by Azuresun; 2021-08-27 at 05:51 AM.
-
2021-08-27, 06:43 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2011
- Location
- material & internet plane
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
I swear, Feige may be deliberately dropping Mephisto Easter Eggs for the entire Phase 4 going forward just to roll with the meme. Then, he'll end up somewhere way down the line like Phase 7-8 instead of sooner.
-
2021-08-27, 07:58 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- May 2008
- Location
- Orlando, FL
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
If we wanna go really out there in crazy speculation, maybe Marvel stole a page from Rick and Morty and the entirety of No Way Home is in an alternate timeline.
Though my saner idea now is perhaps there's two Dr. Stranges in play, and Peter is fighting one of them.
-
2021-08-27, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Knoxville Tennessee
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
It could be a Mysterio thing. He was notable in the comics for actually being his own counterpart in the Ultimate universe.I just sent a robot version of himself over.
Thanks to Linklele for my new avatar!
If i had superpowers. I would go to conventions dressed as myself, and see if i got complimented on my authenticity.
-
2021-08-27, 10:02 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Oct 2010
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
If this ends with us getting another Mysterio back from the Multiverse somehow, I'm all for it!
Teens matter certainly, but the vast majority of Disney's money doesn't come from the films. It comes from the theme parks and resorts, and 20/30/40-somethings are the ones with the disposable income to go to those (with their families), not teenagers. The movies are a profit center sure, but their primary purpose is to provide the attractions that pull people, in droves, onto that very expensive property.
Ergo, expect the main movies to cater to Gen Y (and X) more than Gen Z. That means seeing things like Raimi callbacks in a 2021 trailer with no explanation given for the younger fans, who they're sure can go google who that guy was at the end if they don't already know.
Spoiler: One More DayActually, OMD was about Peter trying to bring Aunt May back to life. Granted, her death was a direct result of his identity becoming public, but Peter going back into hiding was a side-effect of the spell rather than his reason for seeking it out like it is here.
And notably, in that comic, Dr. Strange turned him down saying that what he was after was too dangerous to attempt. Similarly, Reed Richards couldn't save her either. He ended up knowingly taking help from Mephisto there, as opposed to whatever hoodwink might be happening here. That might make all the difference - the fact that Peter really shouldn't be the person trusting Mephisto of all people was a big reason people hated OMD.
Another reason audiences and critics hated OMD was the Doylist reason for its existence - the writers being sick of writing around Peter's marriage to MJ, Stan Lee and the fans who liked it be damned. Another cost of the spell was that Mephisto ate Peter and MJ's marriage, leaving him single and swinging free (literally in some cases.) I never had a dog in that particular race but for those who were invested it was something of a betrayal. As they aren't married in the MCU, that won't be an issue here.
Which might also help explain one of the most common complaints I kept seeing about WandaVision, namely where was he when Chaos Magic was running rampant next door to his own state?Plague Doctor by Crimmy
Ext. Sig (Handbooks/Creations)
-
2021-08-27, 10:08 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Mar 2007
- Location
- Knoxville Tennessee
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Thanks to Linklele for my new avatar!
If i had superpowers. I would go to conventions dressed as myself, and see if i got complimented on my authenticity.
-
2021-08-27, 10:09 AM (ISO 8601)
- Join Date
- Feb 2005
- Gender
Re: Spider-Man: No Way Home - Official Teaser Trailer, just released from Sony Pictur
Has Marvel done so many deceptive trailers that we are just completely discounting that this might be accurate? Strange works a spell that is dangerous but within his abilities, except Peter disrupts it by throwing in a bunch of extra complications and the result is bad?
NOW COMPLETE: Let's Play Starcraft II Trilogy:
Hell, It's About Time: Wings of Liberty
Does This Mutation Make Me Look Fat: Heart of the Swarm
My Life For Aiur? I Barely Know 'Er: Legacy of the Void