El Goonish Shive VII: The Comic is 20 Years Old, but the Cast is Still 18

[Radar]

So, uh

is it more of an AAAAAAA?

or an AAAAHHHH?

'Cause I'm leaning towards "AAAAAAA", but I like to be certain

Considering Eliot's anime martial arts training, I think it might be a classic DBZ scream.

[KillianHawkeye]

Considering Eliot's anime martial arts training, I think it might be a classic DBZ scream.

Yeah, I'm guessing his evil form is in Majin Vegeta style.

[tyckspoon]

Yeah, I'm guessing his evil form is in Majin Vegeta style.

Bet it's not even 'evil', necessarily, just a 'damn the consequences, take the safeties off and give me the strength I need to achieve what I need to do Right Now' thing (as commented before not all that different from Nanase's Guardian Form spell).. but Elliott has always associated 'losing control of himself' with 'evil', so it probably includes a bonus allotment of Charm that influences him to act with a villainous personality just because that's how Elliott thinks it should work.

[Windscion]

.. but Elliott has always associated 'losing control of himself' with 'evil', so it probably includes a bonus allotment of Charm that influences him to act with a villainous personality just because that's how Elliott thinks it should work.

I hadn't considered that facet. Now I require to see Elliot monologing.

-=Update for 24 point Elliot=-
The bully of bullies is in the building. Er, the woods.
Also, the 5 awareness is probably to let Elliot know how/where to hit the griffin.
The tech 2 seems wasted since he left his cell phone behind and he doesn't have cat-form claws.
Ooh, rereading Dan's commentary, maybe his burnout hair will be red (to mark his shame).

[Celestia]

Woah! We're actually seeing villain Cheerleadra in comic!? Man, if only someone had predicted this exact scenario happening!

[Windscion]

Woah! We're actually seeing villain Cheerleadra in comic!? Man, if only someone had predicted this exact scenario happening!

A missed opportunity, to be sure. [/sarcasm]

[Fyraltari]

Oh my god! Elliot has turned evil! This is terrible news! Just imagine, he might step on someone's foot and not apologize! Or return library books two day late! Or consider littering!

The horror!

[Anonymouswizard]

No fishnets, disappointing, 4/10.

Also from what this arc has set up I expected an expression of manic glee.

[Celestia]

For real, though, those torn gloves and bruised knuckles are pretty dark for this comic.

[Qwertystop]

Still got tech 2, but dropped the phone.

[KillianHawkeye]

The tech 2 seems wasted since he left his cell phone behind and he doesn't have cat-form claws.

Still got tech 2, but dropped the phone.

Perhaps in all the excitement, he hadn't realized it fell?

[Taevyr]

No fishnets, disappointing, 4/10.

Also from what this arc has set up I expected an expression of manic glee.

As long as we don't go the full "evil supergirl" look. It always ends up either over sexualized, or plain ridiculous

Damn, forgot how distasteful the depictions of mid 2000's female heroes tended to be. At least for DC.

[Celestia]

sexualized

That's literally just a recolor of the standard outfit, though?

[Maat Mons]

And that first link actually seems like an improvement, since she doesn't have a skirt that people can look up when she's flying overhead.

[KillianHawkeye]

And that first link actually seems like an improvement, since she doesn't have a skirt that people can look up when she's flying overhead.

Kind of irrelevant since we know that Cheerleadra canonically wears shorts under her skirt.

[Maat Mons]

I meant it's an improvement over Supergirl's most iconic outfit. I assume Supergirl doesn't wear a skort, though I would if I were her. Well, actually, if I were her, I'd wear pants, but you know what I mean.

[Fyraltari]

And that first link actually seems like an improvement, since she doesn't have a skirt that people can look up when she's flying overhead.

I mean, unless there are under-skirt shots in the comic, I don't think that matters.

Sexualisation of characters is about how they're presented to the readership, not how they would look from a different angle.

[Vinyadan]

Kind of irrelevant since we know that Cheerleadra canonically wears shorts under her skirt.

Reminds me of Madaline the Paladin https://rustyandco.com/comic/level-2-10/

[Gez]

or plain ridiculous

I suppose the reason she's evil is because she can't cross her arms anymore?

[Anonymouswizard]

As long as we don't go the full "evil supergirl" look. It always ends up either over sexualized, or plain ridiculous

Damn, forgot how distasteful the depictions of mid 2000's female heroes tended to be. At least for DC.

To be fair, Cheerledra's outfit is already pretty sexualised. Not to a distasteful extreme, but enough that you could change the how while keeping it recognisable.

OTOH hand I think the character who's outfit I was thinking of might actually have been Black Canary, so I've just shown how little credibility I have here

[Windscion]

Huh. So the griffin was manipulated. And we were supposed to guess because he [sarcasm] had big facehair like Dex [/sarcasm].
Also, I am impressed OathOfVengeance!Elliot was able to take down a griffin.

[Kish]

The current comic has me actually somewhat optimistic that there will be at least minor consequences for Elliott's choice.

[Windscion]

Well, Edward is bound to be furious at both of them for saving his life.

[Fyraltari]

Huh. So the griffin was manipulated. And we were supposed to guess because he had big facehair like Dex.

I don't think we were supposed to guess.

[Qwertystop]

I don't think it's about the hair. He (?) wasn't talking smoothly, and the eyes were shaded oddly. I didn't guess it myself, but someone did and I can see how they might have.

[Radar]

I don't think it's about the hair. He (?) wasn't talking smoothly, and the eyes were shaded oddly. I didn't guess it myself, but someone did and I can see how they might have.

With eyes it was not just about the shade: Dex was just starring blankly into the distance. Geranted, it is not easy to read an expression on a giffin's face, but eye movement or its lack is pretty distinct.

[Gnoman]

Pretty sure this is supposed to be Grace putting things together due to her enhanced senses and intuition, not a puzzle for the reader. The "it was possible to guess this, but I didn't expect people to" note kind of supports this.

[PoeticallyPsyco]

Wow, Elliot's first win since...

When did Elliot last win a fight? Most of the fights he's been in haven't been resolved by brute force, but I'm wracking my brain trying to come up with the last time he was in a fight and wasn't outmatched or outright losing, and I'm drawing a blank. Wait, did he win against one of Grace's siblings in the Damian arc?

[awa]

On one hand he did win but it doesn't look like the story is going to treat this as a win, I mean I might get proven wrong but generally unleashing your dark power is not a "win" for the hero doing it. In some stories learning not to be afraid of your own power is treated as character growth but I would be surprised if that was the rout they went with here.

[theNater]

Wow, Elliot's first win since...

The Bloodgrem, near as I can tell.

Wait, did he win against one of Grace's siblings in the Damian arc?

He squared off with Hedge, but no winner was declared before Damian exploded.