OOTS #516 - The Discussion Thread

[The Giant]

New comic is up.

[The Iron Muffin]

Belkar made a spot check? Woah.

[selgnij]

Ah the benifits of being awake at 2 in the morning. Nice comic before sleep. And here I thought for a breif moment it was Belkar that would have a change of heart and fight for the city instead of personal gain. O well, maybe next comic... maybe.

[RNG]

I wonder what Belkar spot...

Nice comic, overall.

[DrivinAllNight]

Yeah, Go Belkster :)

[Guts]

Pretty nice. I wonder what Belkar went for and it seems that Tsukiko is quite serious about the necrophiliac thing.

[EvilElitest]

what is this about 1st edition?
from,
EE

[SPoD]

what is this about 1st edition?
from,
EE

In First Edition, evil clerics could turn paladins the same way good clerics could turn undead.

[monty]

Ooh, plot twists!

[the_tick_rules]

now we have an undead rights advocate in the comic, will wonders never cease?

[SteveDJ]

Hmmm, Tsukiko has two different colors of energy glowing from each hand - could there be any meaning to that?

[Icewalker]

Very funny, as always.

Hmmm, Tsukiko has two different colors of energy glowing from each hand - could there be any meaning to that?

That's usually attributed to the whole Mystic Theurge thing, because she can cast both arcane and divine spells.

[Ichneumon]

This comic was great, made me finally connect to necromancer.

[Cubey]

Hmmm, Tsukiko has two different colors of energy glowing from each hand - could there be any meaning to that?

She's a Mystic Theurge, so it symbolises arcane and divine magic.

Funny how the paladin got some bloody-looking wounds after being hit by a Flamestrike.

[The Wanderer]

Ah, the benefits of a late night forum refresh. Nice comic, it should be interesting to see where this goes, both with Tsuikiko looking for Haley and what Belkar saw.

Hmmm, Tsukiko has two different colors of energy glowing from each hand - could there be any meaning to that?

I think it's just because, as a Mystic Theurge, she wields both arcane, (wizard), and divine (cleric) magic.

[WildBill]

I want shoes

[reorith]

I want shoes

you can walk a mile in my shoes any day

[Asarth]

The wight seemed so child-like and innocent. It's kind of cute.

Wonder what Belkar spotted...

[The Extinguisher]

Love the title.

Also, I was right. Tsukiko is both a necrophiliac and a mother figure to them. Go me!

Another tic in the "FMA got it right" collumn.
...There's only five tics. ;_;

[Rollin]

Why are her eyes different colors? Same reason?

EDIT: as I might have known, there's a whole thread on it.

[mockingbyrd7]

I want shoes

Too bad.

Funny strip, the Belkar thing is a mystery, but we'll have to wait and see.

Question for you all: If a paladin does something evil, but is dominated or charmed while it happens and technically has no mental control over that action, do they still fall from grace?
(Example: If Tsukiko uses her Dominate Person spell to make Thanh kill in cold blood, does he fall?)

[The Extinguisher]

Depends of the DM.

Some will not have the paladin fall. Some will have him fall, but allow for very easy redemtion. Some will treat it like it's a normal evil act.

"Hey, if he was really good, he would have made his save."

[Aerysil]

Did funny wooking bwue haiwed man fowget his pwotection fwom eviw spew?

[DracoDei]

Question for you all: If a paladin does something evil, but is dominated or charmed while it happens and technically has no mental control over that action, do they still fall from grace?
(Example: If Tsukiko uses her Dominate Person spell to make Thanh kill in cold blood, does he fall?)

Yeah, but in that case it is just an Atonement spell to fix it, and it doesn't even cost the caster any XPs. WILLINGLY committing an Evil act requires divine intervention or something to fix.

[Covenantwgw]

You idiot! NPC's should NEVER run off when the PC's tell you they've seen something. Don't you know that's instant death even if you HAVE a name!?

[Chrismith]

Look at Thanh's eyes after he's dominated -- I love the detail of this strip.

[ref]

I assume the title references some kind of song...

Again, Belkar screws up. I wonder why they keep him.

[SPoD]

Yeah, but in that case it is just an Atonement spell to fix it, and it doesn't even cost the caster any XPs. WILLINGLY committing an Evil act requires divine intervention or something to fix.

This is incorrect in 3.5. Now, magical compulsion is a free pass and does not involve any loss of powers. From the SRD:

A paladin who ceases to be lawful good, who willfully commits an evil act, or who grossly violates the code of conduct loses all paladin spells and abilities (including the service of the paladin’s mount, but not weapon, armor, and shield proficiencies). She may not progress any farther in levels as a paladin. She regains her abilities and advancement potential if she atones for her violations (see the atonement spell description), as appropriate.

Thanh has not ceased being LG, has not willfully committed an evil act, and likely won't be treated as grossly violating the code of conduct. Thus, he is in little danger of Falling.

[Lizardfolk Lich]

Too bad about him being dominated... I wonder what Belkar went to find though, anyone have any ideas?

[timbuck_hunter]

something to combat moj, most likely