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2021-09-14, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'm not scumreading them for claiming (working on the BCH ISO right now, and they're looking ok so far), it's just frustrating that like half the living players have claimed roles, and the only one I think maybe should have is Libro, who was counterclaiming somebody (even if this was a weird case where counterclaiming might have actually been the wrong move, but it's hard to hold that against him).
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2021-09-14, 04:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay I'm trying to think of who all is claimed.
Libro
Snow?
Emmy
Batcathat
Not sure if Snow actually is one or who the 5th one is but of the three I'm confident in:
Libro counter claimed. Not a bad move. Would have been better if it had worked like normal and led to a lynch of a wolf.
Emmy claimed presumably to avoid being lynched? Though honestly it didn't help their case much for me.
Batcathat claimed in the interest of trying to confirm a townie claim. Might not be the best move (especially since nobody was actively doubting it that I've noticed) but isn't a bad move per se.
Of those three the most suspicious claim that I can see is Emmy but mainly because it seems like a weird night action as well as a weird and unhelpful first post.
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2021-09-14, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-14, 04:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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My list is Libro, Mr Popo, Supagoof, EmmyNecromancer, and Batcathat, in that order. I actually have a 6th claimant but it was surprisingly subtle and I don't wanna call it out and give scum even more info. But also that 6th person wasn't Snow. Why did you think Snow was on my list?
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Spoiler: Batcathat ISORandvote. NAI.
Joke. NAI.
Joke. NAI.
This is an actual point in favor of townreading Xi. It's meta, and Xihirli's meta is confusing metareads, so I wouldn't necessarily count on it, but still it's something as opposed to the nothing I found from the ISOs of other people townreading Xi.
Joke. NAI.
I feel like we're getting into EoD2 and yet BCH is still here. Not sure if "6 hours to EoD" isn't what they meant by "wont be around for EoD much", or if this is an attempt to cover up a potential lack of activity at very important points in the game. idk it's just setting me off.
Wish-wash-wish-wash, but it's still pretty early so I can let it go. NAI.
A good mech point, but one anybody could make. NAI.
This comes across like BCH is just thinking aloud. Speculating about the possibility of people hardclaiming princess to specifically get denied by the narrator isn't necessarily anti-town.
Mech question. NAI.
Mech clarification. NAI. Btw, this is why discussion of mechanics isn't always the most helpful thing - it's technically discussing aspects of the gameplay, but it's more discussing a theoretical gamestate rather than the actual gamestate, and it takes up time, energy, and focus to address.
Early JeenLeen suspicion and vote. I'm not willing to scumread people just for scumreading JeenLeen, because he was acting awfully weird D1
Good to have a readlist, wish more people were giving them. Slight townie points for giving us something to look at later to see if BCH is being consistent or is changing suspicions to suit their needs.
*nodnod*
Reasonable suspicion of JeenLeen is reasonable.
Alright and now we're setup for BCH to review all their leans after the Jeen flip.
I have a similar concern about a potential Xi/Popo. This reads as genuine worry to me. Townie points.
This is in line with my expectation for BCH behavior regardless of alignment. NAI.
Good correction.
BCH feels very wishy-washy about every single one of these reads except for the ones like rogue_alchemist where they have no reads at all. Granted, this exact result was forecast to be a consequence of jeen flipping town, but I'd still rather if a readlist were made it would have something concrete. Anything.
Not an unreasonable conclusion, but not really a solid one either.
The one real downside to lynching scum!Emmy: it doesn't really give us much info. Heck, since this post, Emmy has posted, and Popo has pointed out that we can't even really trust the people on Emmy's wagon because wolves probably knew Emmy was caught last night. Slight townie points for calling out the info issue.
I like this callout.
The first part feels good and then it gets wish-washed away.
Longshot but: if Popo ends up being wrong about another lynch, it might be worth checking BCH. This almost reads like "I'm a wolf and I know you're wrong, so ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT". That's the kind of thing that would have to be revisited in a day or two, though, so null for now.
gac ISO initially got a "idk how to feel about gac" reaction, albeit one BCH was gonna revisit later. I guess it got revisited at some point because now BCH "generally feels better about gac", except for how this post is setting off their scumdar, except how maybe that's because BCH is expecting people to act like them and that's a bad assumption...
*rubs temples*
the ISO itself feels like it's drawing good enough conclusions, but as always, it circles around to "I don't know how to feel about this person".
Praise be, an honest-to-god opinion. It's honestly refreshing. And it even agrees with me! Clearly that means I should townread BCH.
Oh cool, the "unsure about Snowblaze" read has solidified into a vote! I don't agree with the vote but it's nice to have BCH staking a position down.
On it's own I'd probably read this as BCH trying to subtly defend Emmy, but Popo made a good point that wolves knew this particular goose was cooked last night. NAI.
*rubs temples*
I've already said my piece on this.
Light Town Lean. BCH would probably be my strongest townlean yet, except for the constant undermining of their own opinions, and the unwillingness to give their thoughts on people. That wishy-washy stuff is too good at hiding scum, and even with a lot of good stuff in the ISO, I can't bring myself to rate BCH higher than this right now.
I'll also clarify: the reason it's good to give opinions even if your opinions are wrong, is that it gives the rest of us something to work with, something to analyze. We can look at things from your point of view and think "if I were thinking about the game like that, is this how I would react to that post? is this who I would vote?" If we get into endgame, and you're still here, the ability to look at your votes, your leans, and the reasons behind them, is what will help us figure out if you're scum or not. Scum knows this, and even just subconsciously tries to hide their thought process to make it harder to read them.
It's okay to pick up the torches and pitchforks and personally ensure a townie is lynched, as long as you were walking people through it. Yeah, it sucks to mislynch somebody, but it sucks harder to get into endgame and have three people who kinda just followed the herd and didn't have opinions. That's essentially just playing russian roulette. But if we get into endgame with three people who constantly gave leans and reasons and thought processes and points of view, we'll have 48 hours to dig into all that nonsense and figure out who was faking their thoughts to protect their scumbuddies.
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2021-09-14, 04:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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'Curse you aquascuuuuum"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uix2ja0IBAI - for reference.
Anyway, sure. I get it. Focus on everyone. I did. I am still suspect on everyone. I have not seen any concrete proof of roles, other then Jeen and Blades of course. I'm assuming everyone else lies, how well is the question.
Feeling the logic for Emmy. No point in joining or not joining now. "But Goof, don't you want to beat a dead horse?" - Why?
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2021-09-14, 04:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Presented without further comment.
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Recent behavior has lowered my rating for Supagoof. Emmy's rating is more or less because I think Popo has the right read on her one post.
Libro
Rogan
Snowblaze
Batcathat
rogue_alchemist
Xihirli
Book Wombat
Supagoof
gac3
EmmyNecromancer
EDIT: And Popo is in a special unranked tier on his own, both because I've yet to ISO him and because he's simultaneously my top townlean for some very good reasons but the rest of his play makes it clear that he could be faking it all as scum (he's even explicitly said as much).Last edited by AvatarVecna; 2021-09-14 at 05:17 PM.
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2021-09-14, 05:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-14, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Batcathat, Book Wombat, gac3, Libro, Supagoof, Xihirli
I'd like to hear your 3x3. Top three town leans, top three scum leans, and something on why you feel that way. Doesn't have to be extremely substantive, just wanna get a feel for where your heads are at right now.
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Right, it was two small posts really close, my bad. >.<
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2021-09-14, 05:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Did you... Did you realy ask to test the claim of Libro? He is locked town! And to test his claim would mean to kill him, since he can't simply ask for narrator confirmation. Thats not going to happen, ever!
And if Snow, Mr Popo or AvatarVecna would claim Princess right now, I would have to ask them what they have been smoking. Its would be a terribly stupid move to do so right now. They are not in danger of dying today. They should all stay shrödingers princess.
Snow: I don't think I gave you an answer to this question before.
If there is a wolf in your towncore, it's either Xi or BatCatHat. But I didn't read your review of BCH in detail yet.
Supagoof: Forget about Rouge! He won't be lynched today. This is no valid presure vote. This is pure stupidity.
I think, we can drop the math now. It is not applicable anymore, with Emmy posting today.
About your read list, Libro is locked. Popo and AV are placed right as well.
Setting me on one level with gac3, into the middle of the ranking is nothing I can complain about either.
I think, I would place Emmy last. It might not be optimal to shoot someone with low activity, but Emmys actions are terible. The only point going for her would be the Night action. A Wolf would not select the Guard for herself. But she might have wanted to gain another role and simply was unlucky, assuming a town prince was active as well.
It might stroke my ego if you swaped Xi and me. But I might also think Wolf!Snow was going to pocket me after setting me up for a lynch did not work. So this placement is good as well.
Unfortunately, your list and the current state means we have to pick a relatively inactive player.
I'd rather have you crossed off the List in the OP by now...
I promised to pay more attention to Xi, so here I am. The fluff is a nice little story about lying and getting caught. It could have some connection to the gamestate, somewhere deep down. But if there is such a meaning, I don't see who should play which role...
The analysis is basically similar to my own thought processes, but only to the point where Xi implies exactly the opposite of my conclusion.
For me, Emmy's behavior is clearly worse than Goof's. So far I've been unwilling to vote for her since she was going to die anyway. Goof's behavior, on the other hand, while not helpful to the village and quite suspicious in places, at least he gave some reasons. I can't verify those reasons, but I believe him when it comes to RL.
So, why would Xi change her stance on Emmy? If Emmy is Wolf, Xi might have been willing to bus the inactive. Especially if Wolf!Emmy says the truh about her n1. An inactive living to see day 3 would be nearly 100% been an outed wolf. Lynching her afterwards would be a no brainer and make for a boring day.
Lynching her today, while she did not talk? It could give some town cred for catching a wolf, it would sacrifice a wolf that was doomed to die anyway. It would be a good move for a wolf.
If Emmy is a wolf, Xi is more likely to be a wolf as well. There is basically guaranteed to be at least one wolf on Emmy right now, especially if she is a wolf. Of course, this wolf doesn't need to be Xi, but it is a possibility.
This first part feels genuine. He explores how his thought process worked and is not shy to admit he was biased in some ways. He's not trying to make me seem great and infallible (spoiler alert: I'm not) like Popo did day 1, while still admitting the work I have done.
The second part... It is a bit flip floppy again. But it's also talking about other games. I remember her well from PJ, where she managed to win day 1. So she didn't have much time to be active, but she used this time quite effectiv. In Crazy Idea, she was quiet as well, but again, not as quiet as here. Her actions also made more sense to me. I didn't play in Afterlive, but I think I have read she was modkilled for inactivity or something like that? Are there other matches I should know about to judge her actions? Bat, can you clarify?
I agree that I don't think my vote for Bat is going anywhere today. He also had some improvement going for him. He is not cleared yet, but I didn't manage to read everything that could clear him, but I am going to give him the benefit of doubt.
Of the two low posters, Emmy and Supagoof, I'd rather take Emmy. I don't see a single good thing about her and her 100% lack of explanation is especially bad. Seeing her flip might shine a new light on Xi as well.
Popo? Could you explain why you would rather go for goof?
Thanks for reading my mind and answering a question I didn't ask before. So she (Emmy) was not auto killed, but requested the modkill after being under suspicion, while she didn't have the energy or confidence to help town any other way.
If she is a wolf this time, her behaviour would be basically the same. She want's to die, but without hurting her team too much.
Voting for Emmy would be exactly what she wanted to achievein this case. We should take a look at the votes at the time of her claiming to see who might be an ally she wanted to protect.
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2021-09-14, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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The light flickering, was that purposeful? Am I meant to decode it? I don’t know what to make of this game of charades, but I’ll play along. For now.
Cordially,
Your Enemy
That's not really the way I think. I have a top one scumread (Emmy) and since I think I've got one I'm good for now. If that lynch becomes nonviable I'll refocus and try a new one, but that's not really coming up right now. I'll pick the next target later, but I already have this one.
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2021-09-14, 05:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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I think Rogan might be onto something.
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2021-09-14, 05:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Okay, let's see...
Town:
- Libro: Is the Countess, so unless there's some mechanic I'm missing, he literally has to be town.
- Rogan: A lot less certain, but I did like a lot of the ISO more than I thought I would. A lot of his reactions and reads seems a lot like my own, which might explain it. Not sure that's a good reason for trust but it works for now.
- Xihirli: Not a ton to go on and I haven't had time to do an ISO on her. Feels like she's acting differently than when a wolf.
Wolf:
- Snowblaze: As previously stated. Not really any one thing, just several little things that makes me nervous.
- Emmy: Low activity and unprompted claim seems pretty standard with her but action without even posting anything until way later? I don't like that at all.
- Book Wombat: Feels like a lot of mechanical talk but less actual contribution. Might change my mind after doing an ISO.
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No, those are the ones I'm thinking about too, at least. In Afterlife she made a cryptic post (or maybe a couple? I don't really remember) but was mostly inactive, she was modkilled but by her own request, as I understand it (if she hadn't been, she would've been a likely lynch).
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2021-09-14, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is amazing.
I love Xihirli. I never want them to die this game for any reason.
I have a gentleman's request to the disloyal scumbags or whatever:
If you have no need to kill Xihirli, can you not? Because I want to follow this game after I am dead, and reading stuff like this gives me a feathery tickly feeling deep in my undercarriage.
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Rogan did pretty well today.
I will have my messenger service tell you whether I think it is sufficient to lock him town in the morning.
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2021-09-14, 06:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Because I missed the other two and thought I still saw people referring to Snow as the princess which made me even more unsure about what I had thought had been a joke.
Top town reads (in order most to least)
Libro: Probably doesn't need explaining.
Batcathat: They sit well with me. They feel like they are contributing and nothing has marked as looking potentially bad. Most other people that I have a townie feel about have at least some stuff making me go "but... They could be a wolf" and I haven't had those moments with BCH.
Rogan: When I finally got around to them, I was looking for what evidence lead Blade to say we should look into them. I didn't spot any. Maybe I missed it or something but I have a good feeling about them. They might actually deserve the second spot. It's another instance of them giving me a good feeling and me liking what they have been contributing without any real strong "this seems odd" moments.
Top wolf reads (in order of most to least)
Emmy: Not showing up wouldn't be that bad but given what little and weirdness was provided when they did show up just seems... Terrible.
Snowblaze: Snow is playing different this time. I'm struggling to place exactly what it is but normally they seem pushier. Maybe they backed off because of the presence of Popo and all that but it doesn't sit right with me. They normally are pushy (in a good way... I know the wording might sound negative) even when they are a wolf. So it's just all around weird.
Book Wombat: they are acting pretty normal for them but normal for them is still not very helpful. They don't weigh in much and when they do, it's not very helpful.
Other notable town read/wolf read:
AV/Mr. Popo: These are both the type of players that based on their behavior I want to put as town and on anyone else I'd probably have locked them in for sure. But they are also the type that I either know (AV) or suspect (Mr. Popo) could pull off looking just as townie as a wolf. So I think they are good to keep around because they stir conversation but because of their specific styles I feel they are equally likely to be wolves as town.
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2021-09-14, 06:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-14, 06:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Well here is where I was at with my own lowering of the townread.
1) Everything rogan did on day one gave me good feelings. It felt great. It felt like great pushback and questioning and villaging, and some good attack in on suspects.
2) When everyone who reeks of being scum is dead and some of them are townie (if) and most of my top villagers have been snacked, then my bet for where the wolves are become in the pile of those folks who are good at being scum because they are good at creating exactly those sort of warm feelings, and also, because I feel my other town reads are more solid. But, not by much. Snowblaze could be ultra bold wolfing, but I get there if we have to go there if we have to go there and not really before that.
3) I would have to read back and pull specific posts demonstrating where I feel Rogan the actually decent wolf gave himself avenues of victory. However, unless I am trying to case him and kill him, I don't want to give people ammunition to use after I am dead and unable to reverse and object. I reserve the right to reverse on him a second time. My focus will be here overnight, when I am not holding the infant and being wide awake for over a day.
As much focus as that even allows.
I am already pretty drunk tired at this stage, so serious case work is probably not a good idea here, but I do have to remark about the goofster, and I had to step away for a bit, and get back to that.
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2021-09-14, 06:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Popo's posts are so numerous and so long that just quoting them all has my post at 127000 characters - that's two and a half posts worth of characters, and I haven't even added my own commentary yet. There's no way I'm gonna have that finished in three hours, especially when I need to cook dinner too, so I'll probably be working on that on and off so I can have it ready to go D3. Popo seems confident he's gonna die tonight, so maybe I'll get to see mid-game for once.
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If Xi is town, Rogan should be town here a lot. It's not strong, but I can go into why after feeding the kiddo who just woke up.
There is a huge disconnect between Xi being a townie and Rogan-the-wolf's read of the in character stuff.
For example, Xi already explained that her story has nothing to do with this one because of a deep misunderstanding that this setup is based on some other story the narrator had in mind that already exists, but Xi plowed ahead with her own creative work anyway.
Which was... villagery.
And Rogan trying to ponder the deeper meaning of it, means there's bits of the game that haven't fully absorbed into his brain despite clearly reading the game thoroughly.
Which means there's a struggle to comprehend happening. It helps when you've read the game 20 times by now, chronologically and within isos. You get there.
Wolves have no such struggle, at all. On one read through they get most of it, and on another they go power role hunting or mechanics hunting and they read everything every townie says as exactly on the level and they don't struggle to comprehend and instantly believe everything the townies say.
SpoilerWhich is why I lie to wolves.
And fakery of this specific type has never happened once in 500 games. Attempting to solve Xi based on their roleplay which they already explained was meaningless.
And if thats a double bluff and it isnt, then Rogan is a genius and I am willing to concede he found stuff I did not.
I dont even want to talk about it because information of that kind means it is meant to fool wolves and is not meant to fool villagers, because it is too deeply embedded and most of us ignore it.
Anyway, all of this means I am willing to lose to "Rogan the wolf" now. I gotta see me get fooled by something this sneaky one time, ever. Just for the sheer novelty of it.
I even said I look for subtle clues, so Rogan could have been a level 9 wolf and been a total genius and constructed exactly this trap, in his brain, and I kinda want to wander inside of it and admire the handiwork, because it is frigging immaculately constructed.
Top tier. Welcome back to my town even before I do the proper digging and the complete process work.
Popo? Could you explain why you would rather go for goof?
I think it may not matter, but in all the events where it does matter, Emmy over Goof.
And I will be giving the goof iso as soon as I feed the kiddo again.
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2021-09-14, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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My Dearest Enemy,
I had a fiancé once, until I got rid of him.
Aw, I love you, too.
And while I customarily am opposed to defending myself on principal here, because hey, the worst you can do is kill me, I will respond to this Saying that I didn't change my stance on Emmy. I have not moved my vote, and have put up a few posts indicating my renewed resolve to leave it where it is even before I was pressured on it. I can be persuaded to switch to Supagoof if an Emmy wagon becomes no longer viable, that is not the same as saying that I have changed my mind.Spoiler: Check Out my Writing!
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2021-09-14, 06:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah roleblocking me and stealing my priestly power is clearly meant to give the wolf team that power, and also, stop me from doing anything dangerous because my reads are getting good.
After that there is nothing left but killing me.
Popo knows how it works. Popo has been forced to kill pesky villagers who get all up in the grill of the mafia before.
I take it as the compliment that it is.
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2021-09-14, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2021-09-14, 07:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Spoiler: Review of BatCatHats Day 1. Many thanks to AV for gathering the posts
Disclaimer: I did not include all the quotes but concentraited on those I actually wanted to say something about.
This one resonates with me for obvious reasons. We are in a similar situation regarding EOD. (Right now, I am in the comfortable situation of having the next day off as well. I will be busy again on Thursday.) This is not proof of his allignment, but I still feel sympathy for this post.
Some paranoia about snow, but nothing concrete. Still voting for her. It's early day 1, so this vote does not carry that much weight. It is a bit like the behaviour I called out day 2. Throwing shade, but not too much.
This is the same oppinion about the Princess I had at that time. It turned out to be a flawed oppinion, but I don't think Wolf!Bat would say something like that on purpose.
AV called this post NAI mech speculation that would distract from the actual game state. I disagree. It is an important clarification and 100% in line with his previous mindset. He sees a Princess claim as an advantage, so as soon as he sees something that is both wrong and might influence the Princess to stay hidden, he steps in and makes sure the Princess will know she does not need to fear loosing her vote.
This is both helpful and something I would have done as well. The rules of the game are the law. It's important to know it and to ensure everybody is on the same page there.
This seems to be out of line with his day 2 behaviour. He calls something suspect and does not take long to vote there.
This post is good, with some bad streaks. He gives a list of the players and his oppinions. Thats helpful, townie behaviour. But most of those oppinions are non commitment, including many "No idea at this time". If we remove this padding, we are left with ~5 real reads, none of them very strong. But it is better than most players.
All in all, town lean.
Okay, this part might explain why he was fast when voting for Jeen, but slow when he was judging Snow and me day2. Maybe I am undestimating Bat here, but I don't think he could fake this as a wolf.
I remember again why I liked Bats day 1. I also see what Snow meant when she said we were in agreement a lot.
His behaviour between days changes a bit, he is less willing to comitt now than he was before. But he has a good explanation: He is partly responsible for the death of a townie, since he started the Jeen case. This case was wrong, but it still was a good case.
If this is a play, coming from a wolf? You will be BatCat, since Hats off!
I am surprised about your order regarding the wolf reads. You have BookWombat lower than Emmy? Why?
Thanks for the details about Afterlife. Mr Popo was a bit faster than you are, but this is not meant to be a critique. I simply want to state: This guy realy puts a lot of energy into the game. Im impressed.
After my reread, I have to do the boring thing:
Vote: Emmy
My next actions will be:
Crossing out my old vote.
Reading what happend while I was busy with this post.
Not answering, unless it is a direct question for me. I'd rather go to bed now. Good night everybody.Spoiler: I'm a seer
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2021-09-14, 07:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
This is another big indicator.
And in general, the folks who are seriously still processing me out instead of half hearted pretending, are all town most likely. The wolves are aware of my alignment and that I do have to die at night for them to win this game, if I am remotely correct, and even when I am sloppy-but-get-there-in-a-day-or-two correct, I still need to die because I probably have a wolf pelt before I get there anyway.
Where there was suspicion on me day one from not villagery people, if that vanished without much explanation that is probably wolfy.
This is generic, and generic is meaningless without the specific examples.
Spoiler: genericGeneric is also wolfy, give you an example:
"The wolves are the ones trying to do X today!"
Okay, so name their names.
Without specifics, it is just theater.
But I have specific persons in mind, I just am kind of filled to the brim with lots and lots of tabs and there's so much I am doing right now. It's 4 windows loaded with dozens of tabs, and only one of them has anything to do with supagoof right now,
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2021-09-14, 07:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
I’m picturing the conspiracy board with the thumbtack strings mounted on the pelt of Slowmara up in Kami’s Lookout.
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2021-09-14, 07:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
SpoilerI systematically unpaired all of the living townies in Return of the Clowns, specifically paired the live team of 3 wolves in MYLO and LYLO, described in immaculate detail literally all of their scummy moves all game up to and including where they pocketed townies, which of their votes were to find town powers and which were a bus, I posted nearly a thousand times, and 38-combo consecutive posted a big long explanation for how they had no viable day executions left and that they couldn't even night kill me anymore, and because their suspicions went in a circle but also included me, they logically had proved I was town and that they would be forced to bus each other and I would be alive in final 3 with their final member and no one alive would ever vote me there. That was game, the game literally ended before the remaining two rounds played out because no one wanted to go through that.
I spend hundreds of hours per game. I put a lot more hours into the other one I am doing right now.
Wolves gotta kill me before endgames especially if I hit any single wolf.
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It's literally more complex than that.
But the really sad part is, stuff that should take 10 seconds to figure out, like with the Rogan thing digging into your roleplaying, which should spew you both town at this point, I feel like that's sufficiently accurate, and everything else I am doing is overly complicated and more thorough than I need to be given the game state, but it's just...
I have too much PTSD from one wolf living in games, so I gotta kill em.
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The purpose of being a townie is to rain fire and death and pain and agony and destruction down on the wolves until every single one of them is dead or I am.
And I intend to share this message of hope with the world.Last edited by Mr Popo; 2021-09-14 at 07:23 PM.
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2021-09-14, 07:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
Actually that reminds me, I think somebody asked about how to find only the posts from a specific person for the purpose of doing ISOs? There's a couple good methods, depending on how you wanna do the ISOs:
1) Go the Structured Games Subforum, and find this game in the list (right underneath the stickied posts, I'm sure).
2) Look over to the right, where it says "Replies:" and "Views:".
3) Click the "Replies:" number, and it'll open a new window that lists out each person who's posted in the thread, and how many times they did that.
4) Click the number next to the name of the person you wanna ISO, and it'll take you to a Forum Search page that lists only that persons posts in that specific thread.
From there, you can click links and it'll take you straight to that person's post, and you can read through while making your own post and write up your reactions/analysis. This will tend to end up looking like gac3's ISOs (which is why those ISOs made mention of the number of posts each person had made). This could probably be done directly via the Forum Search button, but I tend to find this is the faster method when I do it (which isn't frequently).
The method I tend to do involves quoting every single post so that people have the context for what I'm talking about, which can be a bit time-consuming. Here's my method for that:
1) Open up three forum tabs: one for the game you're ISOing, one replying to the game you're ISOing, and one replying to a different thread entirely.
2) use "Ctrl+F" to search the webpage for appropriate search terms (see spoiler below), such that you should be brought directly to the posts by the person you're ISOing.
3) Click the Multiquote button in the bottom-right of that person's posts. If/when you click 11 posts as part of a multiquote, the last post will not be quoted, and instead you'll be directed to new page letting you reply to the thread.
4) Copy-paste your 10 quotes from that page onto the already-open "Reply To Mafia Thread" page you opened in step 1. Go back to the page you were quoting on, and click the back button; this will take you right back to the 11th post you tried to quote.
5) Switch to the tab where you're replying to a different thread and reload the page. There will be a line of text beneath the reply box talking about quotes from another thread. Click the response that says to unquote them.
6) Return to your quoting tab and refresh the page.
7) Repeat steps 2-6 until all posts from that person are quoted.
...there's probably an easier way to do this, but it's what works for me.
Spoiler: Search TermsFor some people, their name will be sufficient. Normally this is because their name is rather long, and is easy to shorten with a nickname, so people most often use shorthand to refer to them. If you were to Ctrl+F "AvatarVecna" in these threads, most of the hits you get will be my posts, rather than other people talking about me using my full handle (usually people will refer to me as "AV" or "Vecna", with "Vecna" being more likely if Aventine is also in the game). Good examples of this would be EmmyNecromancer (who is almost always called Emmy) or rogue_alchemist (who is almost always called either RA, or some version of his handle that doesn't include the underscore). This is not a good way to search for somebody like Rogan, whose name is short and easy to type, and is rather difficult to shorten further, so people tend to use their full name frequently.
Another thing you can search for is stuff in their signature. Rogan might be hard to find via his name, but nobody else in basically any game of mafia is going to have "spoiler: I'm a seer" in their posts. Things like that - "Maat Mons" for my sig, "Legionary Of Protection" for Supagoof, "Rule number one: worship cookies!" for Book Wombat - can let you easily Ctrl+F for a particular person.
Some people don't have signatures and have names that people tend to spell all the way out. Xihirli, Mr Popo, and Libro are all like this. And they can all be searched via their locations: "Behind you. Right now." for Xihirli, "The Lookout" for Mr Popo, and "Korprulu sector" for Libro. Libro in particular tends to be quiet, and gets talked about by others frequently, so you might search a page for "Libro", and find 20 people talking about Libro with no posts from the man himself. Just search for the sector, it works so much better.
Final little trick: if you're trying to ISO yourself, and none of the above is really viable for whatever reason, Ctrl+F "Warnings/Infractions". That will only bring up your posts, because you can't see the warnings/infractions of other forum members under their names in every post, only your own. Fair warning, this last method only works if you're not a square.
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2021-09-14, 07:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
Have you not read my signature, AV?
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2021-09-14, 07:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
Your signature is useful if I open it, but I try not to open signature spoilers because it makes it harder to get from "searching for [blank]" to "clicking the multiquote button". and "spoiler: quotes" is something people will occasionally do when they're doing a bunch of quotes as a non-ISO. Nobody else is gonna be right behind me, right now. Only Xihirli.
EDIT: Forgot a method. You can sometimes search for "month/year" that the person joined the forum, but for whatever reason I usually end up in these games having people who joined around the same time as each other that screws this up, and the other methods are more fun and personal.Last edited by AvatarVecna; 2021-09-14 at 07:53 PM.
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2021-09-14, 07:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Love Letter Mafia
Look how much energy and fire town has right now.
I just, it makes me so happy.
Do you know how much this is crushing the wolf team's belief that they can win this game right now?
If this list contains all townies the game is pretty well over:
Mr Popo
Libro
AvatarVecna
gac3
Rogan
Xihirli
Batcathat
(Bladescape
JeenLeen)
With a bonus funbucks townie of Rogue Alchemist, should he ever arrive and collect a free win.
Whats funny is his win would be worth exactly as much as mine.
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There is just no way this isnt a townie.