Why do female dragonborn have breast?

[CyberThread]

This is just me, but I really just don't see a reason for it. Dragonborn seem to have that lump, for no real good reason.

[Grod_The_Giant]

The breast tissue doesn't get redistributed when you use the ritual thingie to go from mammal to reptile?

[Scow2]

The males like them. They don't really need any more reason than that. It's also a unique identifying trait of the Humanoid trait..

And what Grod said. Dragons are mammals too, even though they have scales.

[molten_dragon]

This is just me, but I really just don't see a reason for it. Dragonborn seem to have that lump, for no real good reason.

Well, physical characteristics from the previous race carry over to some extent (stat bonuses carry over, as does size). So maybe they're just there because the female mammals they used to be had breasts, and the transformation doesn't completely remove them.

[Arutema]

Redicuous implants?

[Manly Man]

The males like them. They don't really need any more reason than that. It's also a unique identifying trait of the Humanoid trait..

And what Grod said. Dragons are mammals too, even though they have scales.

Wrong, dragons are not mammals, but they are, in fact, endothermic (like mammals and birds). I don't think I'd put them in the Aves class, though, since if the Draconomicon is to be believed, there are a few big differences in the class Aves and whatever it is that dragons are in. Perhaps it should be called Draco?

But the main thing is that dragons do not have mammaries, and therefore are not mammals. If a dragonborn comes from a race that has them originally, then I suppose they might be kept for the sake of letting the dragonborn keep a physical representation of their sexual identity. In all honesty, I could see females with very broad hips (egg-laying and whatnot) and consider that good enough, although I'm sure it would make many dragonborn uncomfortable if the only way another race could determine your gender without you saying is if they stared at your butt.

[Snowbluff]

This is just me, but I really just don't see a reason for it. Dragonborn seem to have that lump, for no real good reason.

Because the ones in the pictures have them.

They don't really have a purpose for all of those horns and stuff, either.

[John Longarrow]

I think you are not recognizing their vast pectoral implants for what they are...

[Gavinfoxx]

4e dragonborn nurse their young.

[Deophaun]

This is just me, but I really just don't see a reason for it. Dragonborn seem to have that lump, for no real good reason.

Probably the same reason why female fighters run around in chainmail bikinis.

[Zaydos]

In 3.X I'd say the ritual is actually a good explanation that makes sense.

In general though
The player (female) I've had play draconic races wanted them.
It's the most easily identifiable sexual dimorphism in humans and the artists use them as a means of allowing you to sex the character because of such.
They think boobs sell maybe

[SoraWolf7]

Because of the rule of non-mammal mammaries. It's to make the character appealing to the human players because boobs.

[Urpriest]

In 4e, it doesn't make sense because Dragonborn are an essentially reptilian race, and is just in there because they thought that girls needed some tertiary sexual characteristics to identify with female characters.

In 3.5 though it's completely logical. You go into an egg, and when you come out you're covered in scales. It's still mostly your old body underneath.

[ShadowFireLance]

3.X: What the other guys said.
4E: ...Because Boobs?

[Segev]

Nonsense. Those are etheric beam detectors.

[lsfreak]

Wrong, dragons are not mammals, but they are, in fact, endothermic (like mammals and birds). I don't think I'd put them in the Aves class, though, since if the Draconomicon is to be believed, there are a few big differences in the class Aves and whatever it is that dragons are in. Perhaps it should be called Draco?

I recently saw a screenshot of a Facebook conversation where someone who studied paleontology tentatively classified Skyrim dragons as archosaurs, possibly a pterosaur. If I understand my classifications right, this makes dragons either a sister group to both crocodiles and dinosaurs(birds), or a sister group to the combined crocodile/dinosaur group. The combined dinosaur/crocodile/dragon/pterosaur group is like, a subgroup of a subgroup of a subgroup of the group that also includes lizards (which is a subgroup of the group that includes turtles, which is a subgroup of the group that includes mammals).

[Psyren]

Redicuous implants?

Beat me to it. "I was just trying to stay current!"

[Phelix-Mu]

Personally, I imagine Bahamut, having gained a long-lived, extremely devoted servant on the Prime in his big crusade against evil/Tiamat, probably would let someone

1.) Have breasts if s/he didn't already have them
2.) Not have breasts if s/he already had them
3.) Undergo wholesale gender change

All of that physical stuff is nice, but the whole thing is simply a symbol of the mortal's extreme devotion to the cause. All that cosmetic, and a large amount of the sexual stuff, is extremely secondary in importance.

In 3.5, were dragonborn a true-breeding race? Or doesn't a female dragonborn give birth to a normal offspring of her previous race (which might require her to have breasts to nurse the babe with)?

[Raven777]

Why do some birds have colorful feathers? Because the opposite sex likes them and it makes finding a mate easier. This is an evolutionary advantage.

[Manly Man]

I recently saw a screenshot of a Facebook conversation where someone who studied paleontology tentatively classified Skyrim dragons as archosaurs, possibly a pterosaur. If I understand my classifications right, this makes dragons either a sister group to both crocodiles and dinosaurs(birds), or a sister group to the combined crocodile/dinosaur group. The combined dinosaur/crocodile/dragon/pterosaur group is like, a subgroup of a subgroup of a subgroup of the group that also includes lizards (which is a subgroup of the group that includes turtles, which is a subgroup of the group that includes mammals).

That's also Skyrim, not D&D. :P On top of that, I am not a paleontologist, so I'm a little lost at all the sister groups here, and most of what you said kind of went in one ear and out the other. Sorry.

[Phelix-Mu]

*puts away long-winded lecture on heat-exchange, heart structure, comparative efficiency of metabolism, and yet more arcane topics*

Um, then I'm going to have to stick with "because Bahamut doesn't really care about details like that." Alternatively, "because Bahamut wants it that way."

I guess part of it might be to maintain a distinct appearance from the dragonspawn of Tiamat.

[Qc Storm]

It's simple. Males keep their Draconis Fundamentum somewhere in their beer belly. Females have two of them higher up there.

[Scow2]

I guess part of it might be to maintain a distinct appearance from the dragonspawn of Tiamat.

"Stay away from the Dark Side: They lack titties"

Also, for 4e Dragonborn, This:

Why do some birds have colorful feathers? Because the opposite sex likes them and it makes finding a mate easier. This is an evolutionary advantage.

[RedWarlock]

3e dragonborn are sterile. They're crusaders of the cause against evil dragonkind, and thus have no time for child-rearing, plus Bahamut believes that it should be a choice of path, not something to be born into.

[Mando Knight]

In 4e, it doesn't make sense because Dragonborn are an essentially reptilian race, and is just in there because they thought that girls needed some tertiary sexual characteristics to identify with female characters.

Except they're only as reptilian as a dragon is... they're warm-blooded (and some spit fire or ice, things that an ectothermic creature couldn't). The additional supplementary material for 4e Dragonborn also has them nurse their young, meaning that yes, they do use them.

...Actually, in either edition, it doesn't matter where you put them in your taxonomy, Dragonborn are (in-game) a divinely created race (differing in that 4e has them as an ancient self-procreating race, while in 3.X they're special petitioners to Bahamut), and thus not necessarily needing to follow any kind of biological rules that apply here on earth.

I mean, really, in a game where the dead walk with unholy energy and giant skulls with dozens of eyes fly and shoot magic beams, people complain about a draconic humanoid having mammaries?

[Phelix-Mu]

I mean, really, in a game where the dead walk with unholy energy and giant skulls with dozens of eyes fly and shoot magic beams, people complain about a draconic humanoid having mammaries?

IN THE NAME OF BAHAMUT, WE WILL SPECULATE!

*ahem* Sorry for the loud-voice. Bahamut compelled me. /cop out

[Pokonic]

It's the place where the organ that produces breath weapons are stored in female dragonborn. It's also the reason the males tend to have big pecks, and as such, males find females with noticeble breast's attractive because, with any hope, there children should, by pure genetics, have a powerful natural weapon compared to their peers.

[Phelix-Mu]

It's the place where the organ that produces breath weapons are stored in female dragonborn. It's also the reason the males tend to have big pecks, and as such, males find females with noticeble breast's attractive because, with any hope, there children should, by pure genetics, have a powerful natural weapon compared to their peers.

My brain just concocted some unholy mix of eHarmony for dragonborn, and eugenics.

Hmm. I'm smelling an interesting adventure hook in there.

[Urpriest]

Except they're only as reptilian as a dragon is... they're warm-blooded (and some spit fire or ice, things that an ectothermic creature couldn't). The additional supplementary material for 4e Dragonborn also has them nurse their young, meaning that yes, they do use them.

The supplementary material only exists because they initially had breasts, though, not the other way around. It's a post-hoc justification. And dragons don't give milk, at least not in D&D.

[Scow2]

The supplementary material only exists because they initially had breasts, though, not the other way around. It's a post-hoc justification. And dragons don't give milk, at least not in D&D.

But Dragonborn are not actually dragons.

Personally, I think the breasts (They aren't necessarily mammaries, though) are a result of the Humanoid figure, and serve no purpose other than show (And maybe breath-weapon source) - which is more than enough.