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2013-11-16, 09:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 08:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
An arcane caster must use spells of opposed alignments to call aligned outsiders (for instance, Magic Circle against Good (an Evil spell) and Planar Binding (a Good spell) to call an archon). While it's not strictly prohibited for an arcane caster to cast opposite-alignment spells, it's still rather odd.
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2013-11-17, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
The odd thing about those spells is that trapping/imprisoning a good outsider is a good spell, instead of the other way around.
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2013-11-17, 08:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 09:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 09:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
Reading fail on my part.
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2013-11-17, 09:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
Blockade summons a 5' cube of wood in a square. It's very specific about the square having to be empty. It also has a range of 0 ft., so the only valid square to create the block in is your own. Which is not empty.
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2013-11-17, 10:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
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2013-11-17, 10:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
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2013-11-17, 10:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
Fangs of the vampire king grants you a bite attack dealing a flat 1d6+Str damage that also deals 1 Con. It specifically mentions that you can use it as a secondary natural attack. Ignoring the non-dysfunctional hilarity of this meaning you can grant your diminutive toad a 1d6 bite attack, if you choose to allow, say, a rat gain the bonus, the animal seems to have a full attack of 2 bites, unless a rule somewhere prevents this.
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2013-11-17, 11:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
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2013-11-17, 11:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 11:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
The parentheses are there solely to indicate which adverbs are affecting which words. The important bit is that "cannot make jumps out of water" can be grammatically correct both in the case of "out of" altering "jump" so that it means "to jump such that you leave the water," and in the case of "out of" altering "water," in which case the sentence means "it is impossible to jump unless you are in water." The latter is certainly not intended and is incredibly silly. No one honestly believes the second interpretation is how the game works. That doesn't change whether the second interpretation is grammatically correct.
As an illustration that "grammatically correct" doesn't necessarily coincide with "correct," "Colurless green ideas sleep furiously" is a grammatically correct sentence that is completely nonsensical.
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2013-11-17, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 11:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-17, 11:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 12:02 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
No one is arguing that. I'm objecting to you arguing about something said in "Silly" tags (clearly communicating he is being silly, as in joking) and doing so from an incorrect position (the silly interpretation is in fact grammatically correct)
EDIT: The Dysfunction is that the rule only says a Swim Speed is necessary to jump out of water, not that the Swim Speed is the maximum speed in that circumstance. Produce text that the Swim speed is listed as limiting the speed of said jumps out of water, and then you'll be correct on whether the rules indicate which speed to use when determining the maximum distance of jumps.
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2013-11-18, 05:47 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 08:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
A new(?) dysfunction: Mrs. Commoner 1 slaps her husband, Mr. Expert 1, in the face. She only has a 35% chance to hit him (AC 10, BAB0, -4 for not being proficient with her weapon).
If she is used to hitting people with her hands, she hits him 40% of the time (Weapon Focus: Unarmed Strike).
But unless she is an expert in unarmed combat, he can hit her first (Improved Unarmed Strike). Unless he is surprised that she hits him because she found out he cheated on her...Last edited by Cybris75; 2013-11-18 at 09:18 AM.
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2013-11-18, 08:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
I really don't get what you are trying to say.
Mrs Commoner is proficient with one simple weapon. This could be the rolling pin (club) or the unarmed strike. If she is proficient with the weapon she uses she has a 55% chance of hitting. Mr Expert can always hit her with a 55% chance because he is proficient with all simple weapons. This includes Unarmed Strike. The expert does not get Improved Unarmed Strike, an thus does not threaten Mrs Commoner, unless he purchases that feat (which Mrs Commoner could do just as well).
I see no dysfunction here
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2013-11-18, 10:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
Oh, you're right about the proficiency, I didn't remember that. I also misremembered the not-threatening part (sorry, was waiting for my meal to finish cooking - not enough bloodsugar).
But still, the low percentages seem like a dysfunction to me. Why would she ever miss in the first place, unless she was really clumsy?
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2013-11-18, 10:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 10:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
If she initiates combat and wins initiative then he is flatfooted. Does that still account for dodging? Hm, I guess if he was not moving at all he would have AC 5, which makes her chances of hitting him better, but still not quasi-automatic.
Hehe, true, if he is helpless I guess the crit confirms automatically. But I would think that she wouldn't inflict normal damage, because she wouldn't be using her full possible strength for that.
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2013-11-18, 11:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 12:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Dysfunctional Rules IV- It's like a sandwich made of RAW failure!
If you don't have a swim speed, you have to make a swim check to move through water. According to the PHB you move at 1/2 your speed (full-round action) or 1/4 (move action)
So, as a full-round action, you could (Absent the rules in Stormwrack) take a full-round action (assuming the swim check passed) to move 1/2 speed (15' or 10' for most creatures) and then jump...unfortunately your reduced speed puts in a -6 penalty on the 15' and -12 on the 10' speed guy) and because they can't (in a single round mind) go 20' prior to the jump, they suffer a double DC penalty on top of that. So getting 1 foot above water (assuming vertical reach is the top of the water) would be DC 4 x 2 (8) + 16 or 22.
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2013-11-18, 12:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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2013-11-18, 12:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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