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2023-11-13, 11:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
A hundred gold that Kraagor isn't dead, and as the one Scribbler who wasn't involved in the breakup will be able to shed the least biased light on what exactly went down during that final battle, s will as changing our perception of the Snarl.
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2023-11-14, 12:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I don't know if it's a favorite, but I think it's not impossible. "Kraagor was drawn into the rift before it was sealed and we don't actually know what happened after that" seems like the most likely scenario, and then it's not an unrealistic conclusion that what happened isn't what we were led to believe happened.
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2023-11-14, 12:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-14, 12:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
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The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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2023-11-14, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
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2023-11-14, 09:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2023-11-14, 12:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-14, 12:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
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The Index of the Giant's Comments VI―Making Dogma from Zapped Bananas
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2023-11-14, 12:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-14, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Can I buy the lounge from you for 100 gp? You can win the bet and get rid of a commissioned piece for which payment was not tendered. And I'll pay extra to have it warded against pet hair. I don't have a pet, but some of my friends are hippies.
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2023-11-14, 01:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-14, 02:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
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2023-11-14, 02:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Better than the dragon....I'm not sure how exactly one pisses off a lord of the abyss this badly, but apparently her bones were unraveled into threads that are still a sieve in some sort of sewage plant on some demiplane or other? (And that's the story of why I started paying insurance premiums on manifestations of object reading.)
Tell ya what: you can just have it. If Peelee isn't even interested in black velvet, with that slow Southern style, finding another dragon who'll trade for it seems like a lost cause.
I feel like we'd have gotten a different reaction from Girard if the sealing spell was fast enough that that was what killed Kraagor (as in, Girard would compare Soon's blame to Dorukan's or Lirian's for actually killing him), and if it took longer then who knows what happened between the start of the spell and its completion? Other than, as you say, Kraagor's presumed death.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2023-11-14, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
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2023-11-14, 03:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I mean, here's the strip in question.
Soon: Cast the spell! Seal the rift!
Lirian: No! Not until you're both clear!
Soon: DO IT!!
Kraagor is standing closer to the rift and the Snarl than Soon, and Soon still isn't clear of its range. Then in the next strip, Soon is alive and Kraagor is not.
I think it's heavily implied that the spell to seal the rift caught Kraagor somehow, probably sealing him in with the Snarl.
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2023-11-14, 03:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-14, 03:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-14, 06:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
In that case, it is equally likely that Soon's wife, the forest creatures, and anyone else who happened to disappear in proximity to a rift may still be alive.
Out of the billion+ worlds so far, the gods have not seen any examples of this, or they might have said something. Instead, they clearly state that the people, including their souls, are unmade by The Snarl.
The gods appear to be unaware of the world in the rift, so this time may be unique. I'm not betting on it, though. I'm holding out for Laurin to be the first sentient being to communicate with The Snarl.
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2023-11-14, 06:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-15, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
While it's possible the rift sealing spell petrified Kraagor and made him unable to be affected by e.g. stone to flesh and the statue was made in that image...why is his posture so different from suddenly-mid-battle, and why would Girard describe it as "died in that rift"? And if the panels are cutting directly from mid-battle to a post-battle ceremony with a statue already completed, what's the basis for estimating the timeline?
Peelee did the rest of the work with the bet: If Kraagor can't provide an account of enough of the battle for it to be the least biased, if Kraagor's account is at least as biased as the others', if Kraagor's account doesn't recontextualize expectations of the Snarl, if Kraagor's account doesn't mean he isn't dead, or if Kraagor doesn't provide an account; he loses. The first part just has the least shallow level of "I dunno maybe", hence my focus on it as the most potentially interesting area for discussion. Also gave me an excuse to recycle a reference to the Alannah Myles song that I couldn't fit in a different thread, so I already made progress in some form o_oFeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2023-11-15, 03:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I'm even more confused by your position now, because it sounds to me like you're agreeing with me, or at least offering evidence that supports my position.
I see the facts as:
-Lirian and Dorukan cast the spell to seal the rift while Soon and Kraagor are still in danger.
-Soon remains safe, but Kraagor, per Girard, "die[s] in that rift."
-The rift is sealed, ending the battle.
So, again, I'm wondering how much time you think passes between #2 and #3. Because I think this is a relatively quick process, as opposed to something where the spell took an extended length of time, and Kraagor and Soon kept fighting valiantly but ultimately the former succumbed. (Among other things, if the spell took a long time, Kraagor and Soon would have a long time to get away from the rift before it closed, so the urgency of "Not until you're both clear!" doesn't make much sense to me.)Last edited by Ruck; 2023-11-15 at 03:33 AM.
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2023-11-15, 08:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
One possible scenario if the Geas on MitD does work:
For as yet unknown reasons Redcloak directly opposes Xykon.
Before Xykon can do more than fire off a contingency or two the Geas activates and MitD swallows Redcloak whole.
Facing the entire Order alone, Xykon chooses the better part of valor and retreats to his fortress.
Following the final provision of the Geas, MitD spits out the necklace with Redcloak still inside it.
O'Chul and MitD enjoy a game of Go.
I assign a very low probability to this exact scenario, but something like it might happen, such as Redcloak's contingency firing and he teleports away when MitD tries to eat him.
In any case, if anything similar happens I would consider it a win. So, if the Geas on MitD activates, I bet two seedling tung trees that the scenario plays out generally as described above.
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2023-11-15, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Basically: you're describing a viable possibility, but one I don't think is concrete enough to be confident in treating it as the answer.
Why is "Soon remains safe" on #2? Wouldn't Kraagor's death mean Soon was still in danger of dying the same way? I mean, if Kraagor died (or was otherwise incapacitated) by Soon pushing him into the rift while running away or something, I think Girard would opt for "murderous" over "cowardly". And if the spell could be cast from a safe distance, what the heck were Kraagor and Soon doing so close to the rift?
I doubt all three of Kraagor's "removal", Soon's (apparent?) cowardice, and the rift's sealing happened in the same instant by coincidence...nor by correlation, as I doubt even more that sealing the rift could be responsible for both Kraagor and Soon. The two panels feel strongly of hinting at a convergence and letting the audience accept that by not lingering on it...much like the times the comic's hidden details to allow for a surprise reveal to recontextualize our understanding of events in the comic. Where the likelihood that this is another such time falls on the spectrum between implausibility and certainty, I suppose we all can only decide for ourselves.FeytouchedBanana eldritch disciple avatar by...me!
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2023-11-15, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I think most likely, the spell gave both Soon and Kraagor a Reflex save to leap clear and avoid being trapped in the rift when the Gate formed. Soon's dice liked him better than Kraagor's liked him. Girard, paragon of moral reasoning that he was, looked at an outcome he didn't like and decided that Divine Grace was cheating. Kraagor's death, the Gate's creation, and the Snarl being trapped thus all happened at the same moment.
I'm not betting anything on it, that just strikes me as the most likely events.Orth Plays: Currently Baldur's Gate II
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2023-11-15, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-16, 09:54 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'll bet a bag of Hanukkah Gelt that Redcloak gets swallowed whole, then retrieved, then everyone will be surprised he's not dead.
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TinyMushroom drew my avatarSpoiler: A shaggy dog storyAn evil sorcerer in command of a dark cult is trying to unleash a god-killing abomination more real than the gods themselves. At his side, yellow eyes revealed a Haunter of the Dark. The evil sorcerer ordered it to kill.
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2023-11-16, 12:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2023-11-16, 04:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Something other than what you describe. Like...I don't think saying "a d20 roll coming out even is more likely than a natural 1" requires me to choose which of 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, or 20 is the outcome; if I was confident in precisely what happened, I'd be better served betting on that.
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2023-11-16, 04:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
Avatar by linklele. How Teleport Worksa. Malifice (paraphrased):
Rulings are not 'House Rules.' Rulings are a DM doing what DMs are supposed to do.
b. greenstone (paraphrased):
Agency means that they {players} control their character's actions; you control the world's reactions to the character's actions.
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2023-11-16, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Prediction Page, (bring your quatloos, gps, and internets, you'll need them.)
I guess I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around your position because I'm having a hard time picturing how it happened in some way other than as I described. You seem to think it's more likely it happened some other way, but I don't even have a framework for what that other way would look like, so it's hard for me to picture.