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2020-08-10, 02:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Parenting: It's still closer then most Outsiders, at least Slaad have parents (The father was there when the Archon gave birth in the flashback.) I also think Slaad paralleling Modrons binary isn't too farfetched.
Another big issue I will admit is that MitD has a very low wisdom score in series and Slaad have high wisdom scores. MitD should be in the 4-6 range, White Slaad have a 26.
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And it does seem to fit the mindset of the Rich of the summer of 2004 pretty well too.
(That's something I've always considered a weak point of Ruck's "thematic" case for the Protean - it fits really well with the themes dear to the later Rich, but not really that well with the joke-a-day one.)
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Can't tell how hard to hit someone, can't tell that monopoly money is fake, can't tell that plastic cherries aren't food, has no sense motive skills, has no perception skills (IE can't see things in the same room.) Guesses explosions come from beans, no common sense. All the evidence is that he has next to no wisdom.
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2020-08-10, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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I'd like to point out that the Half-Dragons doesn't add a wisdom bonus, so a stacked Half-Dragon would still have its original wisdom. (It also doesn't add a Dexterity bonus, but that's because "exaggerated claws" stacked makes it hard to handle anything with your hands.) Although if the base creature is a dragon, it can't have low wisdom. The stack I proposed has 63 strength and 13 wisdom.
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But he believes that Slaad do.
I agree that Grey Wolf could have parsed that sentence better, I was confused at first too.Forum Wisdom
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It's a bizarre thought, but... Could he be an amnesiac worm that walks?
I mean, they have spellcasting and it would explain how he understood the half a ritual just by looking at it.
They at least have the potential to know how to cast teleport.
They know the languages they knew but rarely speak so it would be surprising to hear them speak common.
They're made up of thousands of insects. Explains the circus scene.
They have frightful presence so that would explain "STOP! ...Please."
They have the DR and fast healing for the Miko scene, along with immunity to crits and sneak attack.
Could cast earthquake I guess.never mind this one, earthquake in 3.5 is a cleric spell.
As an epic creature with spellcasting it could've been on the astral at some point in its former life.
Would explain why he's attracting roaches, assuming that wasn't just a joke.
Only issues I see are:
1. They're not born in the usual sense... But MITD could be remembering who they once were when they spoke of their father, or something.
Edit: even weirder thought, or a worm that walks could have cast some sort of epic spell that caused it to procreate another worm that walks.
2. A sorcerer or wizard is highly unlikely to have the strength score necessary to punch another person through a stone wall, but it's not entirely impossible and could explain the meaning of fine line.(assuming it means anything) If the wizard/sorcerer he was in life was an otherwise unremarkable human that just so happened to have a huge strength score...
3. A strict reading of no discernible anatomy would mean they don't technically have eyes or a mouth, but I've seen some depictions where they have what looks like them.Last edited by JennTora; 2020-08-12 at 07:18 AM.
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What is that? An insect group mind?
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2020-08-14, 12:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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Sort of, as I understand it. But it's not a natural one, but a sort of alternative to lichdom. Instead of becoming an undead, you become a hive mind of worms. And like lichdom, in game terms, it is a template to put on top of a powerful spellcaster.
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Yes, speaking of this:
"The current best fits are the Xenocrysth, a character from another comic, and the protean."Oxford commas: sometimes, they increase ambiguity.
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"The current best fits are the Xenocrysth, a character from another comic and the protean."
(I am not suggesting those three are the actual best fits - the example just works best with a list of three)
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I have the general feeling is that he's a child below adolescence. He behaves childish, wants a secret club that girls can't join, breaks his toys, throws an earthquake tantrum to get more toys, wants to bet with monopoly money. Oh, and he wants to conform to adults. Adolescents rebel against their adult guardians. But I wouldn't give too much certainty to this, because the MitD may be a creature with development stages unfamiliar to us and raised in an unusual environment.
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It’s based on a 3rd party expansion on the dream realm. A large part of that expansion relies on a conceit that in the future a psionic god is killed and this creates something which then uses the dream realm to travel back in time to make sure that betrayal happens. The art is like a yuanti with 2 arms and crystal bludgeon tail
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Edit 2 - with regards to the slaad: the problem with that is that almost any slaad wouldn’t balk at eating babies. They are carnivorous and notorious for eating sentient beings. Moreover I can’t see a slaad being influenced by ochul to be more lawful in the way MitD seems to.Last edited by mjasghar; 2020-08-14 at 07:08 PM.
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Yeah, I agree with this. There's also the tea party, which is even its own trope apparently.
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Not to mention defeating the purpose of demonstrating a situation in which the oxford comma introduces ambiguity, although I suppose Quartz did demonstrate the problem.
Just in case it needs to be spelled out: I do not have a problem with the Oxford comma per se - only with the idea that the Oxford comma is superior to omitting it. Both uses can increase ambiguity in certain circumstances.
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I am not as sold on xenocrysth as I want to be due to the psionics issues, but there is something about it that makes me really want it to be that. Maybe part of it is the mental image of that thing hosting a tea party.
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An explanation of why MitD being any larger than Huge is implausible.
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