The OOTS Reprint Drive at Kickstarter: Pledge now to get exclusive rewards!

[SweetBB]

I... I feel a little lost now that the drive is over. It was such a blast to come together to support Rich. To participate in the ever increasing excitement, daily graph smashing and accelerating rewards.

I'm going to miss the F5 camping gang... (I would insert a frowny face at this point, but Porthos might start swinging his anti-frowny face ban hammer again! :smalltongue: )

[Porthos]

I'm going to miss the F5 camping gang... (I would insert a frowny face at this point, but Porthos might start swinging his anti-frowny face ban hammer again! :smalltongue: )

I think being a tad bittersweet is appropiate right now. :smallwink:

Besides, I don't have one of those hammers over here. :smalltongue:

(Turn out, I didn't have it on the comment thread either. :smallannoyed: :smallwink:)

[WampaX]

I think being a tad bittersweet is appropiate right now. :smallwink:

Besides, I don't have one of those hammers over here. :smalltongue:

(Turn out, I didn't have it on the comment thread either. :smallannoyed: :smallwink:)

I thought that it was the ban shovel?
Ban . . . dig dig dig

[SweetBB]

Besides, I don't have one of those hammers over here. :smalltongue:

(Turn out, I didn't have it on the comment thread either. :smallannoyed: :smallwink:)

Hmmm. It was all going so fast, but didn't I see you giggling in the corner at one point? Or was that some OTHER Porthos? :smallwink:

[MoonCat]

Don't worry Moon, it'll come eventually. There are a few thousand to send, after all. :smallcool: *fansquee* 15k is alot. TOO MANY I SAY!

Go into Kickstarter and check your backer history - it should have updated to Collected.

Then you can check your spam folder just in case the Amazon receipt went into there.

Woo, it says it's been collected! But I know that all the kickstarter emails don't get dumped into spam, so I definitely haven't gotten it yet. Weird. Just a matter of time I guess.


I... I feel a little lost now that the drive is over. It was such a blast to come together to support Rich. To participate in the ever increasing excitement, daily graph smashing and accelerating rewards.

I'm going to miss the F5 camping gang... (I would insert a frowny face at this point, but Porthos might start swinging his anti-frowny face ban hammer again! :smalltongue: )

I like it. I've suddenly become SO much more productive in school. :smalltongue:

[Porthos]

Hmmm. It was all going so fast, but didn't I see you giggling in the corner at one point? Or was that some OTHER Porthos? :smallwink:

Oh, yes. I was giggling while I was imagining that I was punishing people with BAN HAMMER LEVEL POWERS! A sort of "I'm crushing your head, I'm crushing your head"* type deal. :smallwink:

Actually, truth be told, I have those elsewhere on the Net. Sadly, that's where the whole Great Powers Yada Yada bit comes in. It isn't nearly has fun to have Ban Hammer powers if you have to be responsible with their usage. :smallannoyed:

So, I settled for some imaginary fun instead.

*pauses*

I think I need help. :smalltongue:

* Gotta love the references to the classics, :smalltongue:

[The Glyphstone]

The line you're looking for is "Power corrupts. Absolute power IS FREAKING SWEET!":smallbiggrin:

[Porthos]

The line you're looking for is "Power corrupts. Absolute power IS FREAKING SWEET!":smallbiggrin:

"Lulling people into a false sense of security" is one of my hallmarks, remember? :smallwink:

Though, truth be told, breaking out the banhammer to deliver some Righteous Justice can be a pretty sweet feeling. :smallamused:

[stsasser]

StompStarter :mitd:

[turkishproverb]

Well, before I forget *hugs everyone* THANK YOU ALL FOR HELPING RICH!

*HUUUUUUUUUUGS*

[PixyMisa]

I'm actually sad that the drive is over. I mean, the whole point was to raise money to get all those books and goodies, but I miss the excitement. :smallfrown:

[tomandtish]

This has been so amazing. Got Swag pack 2 and added on the poster. OOts fans are the best!

[Terribad]

If anything else, I think this drive has fully justified all the headaches and costs toward maintaining the OOTS Forum which has served as the focal point for this community.

[Carla]

Soooo, since Rich said that he was going to do his updates in Kickstarter, I'm thinking that the site might not die for a while yet...but I bet it will sure slow down. I never did get to read all the comments if I was away from the computer for more than five minutes...but passing the time there was fun and I learned a lot during some of the F5 camping. Thanks everyone for a great few weeks and for one last time:
Limited rewards left at end of drive:
$300 - 31
$245 - 13
$114 - 212
$107 - 2
$92 - 1
$70 - 20
$68 - 62
$57 - 1
$49 - 1
$36 - 105
$14 - 2

g'nite all!!

[Helanna]

Me last night: "Wow, $1,260,000 is a pretty lofty goal! Kind of unfair to make the last goal one we won't even get close to reaching. I need that feeling of completeness, you know?"

Proof that, throughout this whole thing, despite repeatedly thinking "We'll never reach $X", I never stopped underestimating the Playground. I'm sorry, Playground. I shouldn't have doubted you.

It feels weird to look at the Kickstarter page and not be constantly refreshing it. The static number is kinda sad. I really enjoyed clicking the refresh button repeatedly . . . and that in itself might be a little sad. Oh well, it was fun. :smallsmile:

Also, I'm going to start putting extra money in my savings account from now on. If I could have possibly afforded it, I would've tried to get a whole signed set or something. So I need a fund for 'crazy expensive stuff I don't actually need but desperately desperately want' - I'm not going to let these chances pass me by again, whether they be for OotS or not!

Words cannot describe how much I wish I could've gotten the $4,000 package. One day . . .

[Sorator]

So... who's up for compiling all the achievements we unlocked throughout this thing?

[Crisis21]

Give me a minute....

[Forbiddenwar]

The next one should be to fund his a book on his world/campaign setting, so you can run your own adventures in the OOTS world. Hell, if he had used that as a premium for this drive, he could have hit $1.5 million.

Maps of the continents. Stats on the characters. The whole nine yards.

Actually mentioned in the podcast interview. He started one, but shelved it when 4th edition was announced. No way it could be done in time for this pledge and besides he likely won't release anything like that until the storyline is finished due to spoilers.

So look for it in 9th Edition D&D:smallwink:

[ti'esar]

Actually mentioned in the podcast interview. He started one, but shelved it when 4th edition was announced. No way it could be done in time for this pledge and besides he likely won't release anything like that until the storyline is finished due to spoilers.

So look for it in 9th Edition D&D:smallwink:

Wait, seriously? This was actually an idea at one point? One that we still might wind up seeing when it's all over?

[SaintRidley]

Woo, it says it's been collected! But I know that all the kickstarter emails don't get dumped into spam, so I definitely haven't gotten it yet. Weird. Just a matter of time I guess.



I like it. I've suddenly become SO much more productive in school. :smalltongue:

If your email for Amazon and your email for Kickstarter don't match, it goes to the one you have Amazon under. Have you checked that?

Just a thought to help cover your bases.

[Forbiddenwar]

Wait, seriously? This was actually an idea at one point? One that we still might wind up seeing when it's all over?

Maybe. But it might be a long shot. Does he build it in 3.5 even though 10 years from now, when it is ready, no one is playing 3.5? Or does he build it in the current popular edition, even though it might be an edition that doesn't work with the strips at all and/or an edition that rich knows little about?

See the dilemma?

[MoonCat]

If your email for Amazon and your email for Kickstarter don't match, it goes to the one you have Amazon under. Have you checked that?

Just a thought to help cover your bases.

Ach, there it is! Thanks! :smallsmile:

[Crisis21]

You wanted all of our achievements? Here you go. (Shale (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12739833&postcount=2620) is responsible for alot of these names. Some liberty may have been taken with the rest)

Achievement Unlocked: Take That, Eagle Awards! (Become the top-funded comics project)
Achievement Unlocked: Big Spenders (Fund the three $1,250 stories)
Achievement Unlocked: It's A Secret To Everyone (Fund the $4,000 Mystery Box)
Achievement Unlocked: Priceless Work Of Crayon (Fund the $5,000 cameo)
Achievement Unlocked: Quadruple-Digit Fans (Reach 1,000 donors)
Achievement Unlocked: We Live In The Valley To The South (Reach 5,000 donors)
Achievement Unlocked: We've All Heard The Joke (Reach 9,001 donors)
Achievement Unlocked: We are Legion! (Reach 14,000 donors)
Achievement Unlocked: Stickstarter (Minimum Print Run [War and XPs])
Achievement Unlocked: Win The War (Full Size Print Run [War and XPs])
Achievement Unlocked: Part 2: The Beginning (Full Size Print Run [On the Origins of PCs])
Achievement Unlocked: Feelin' Blue (Minimum Print Run [No Cure for the Paladin Blues])
Achievement Unlocked: To Azure City! (Full Size Print Run [No Cure for the Paladin Blues])
Achievement Unlocked: Pretty Good Advice (Minimum Print Run [Don't Split the Party])
Achievement Unlocked: Getting the Band Back Together (Full Size Print Run [Don't Split the Party])
Achievement Unlocked: One In The Bank (Pre-emptively fund: Full Size Print Run )
Achievement Unlocked: Stay Away From Haley (Pre-emptively fund: Full Size Print Run [Dungeon Crawlin' Fools])
Achievement Unlocked: Bookshelf of Holding (Get all seven books in print at once)
Achievement Unlocked: Broken Graph (Exceed the limits of the graph before Rich can update)
Achievement Unlocked: Double Order (Force Rich to expand the print runs through pre-orders alone)
Achievement Unlocked: Too Much Is Never Enough (Expand the print run twice)
Achievement Unlocked: Artist Needs Funds, Badly! (Pledge so much that Rich has to raise administrative funds to cover the cost of the drive itself)
Achievement Unlocked: Artistic Liscense (Get Rich to produce an 8x10 print of the massive cast posters)
Achievement Unlocked: Order Up A Scribble (The Order of the Stick Coloring Book produced)
Achievement Unlocked: No More Books? No Problem (Bribe Rich into producing new and different swag)
Achievement Unlocked: Make The Sticky Schticks Stick (Bribe Rich into releasing the adventure game expansion)
Achievement Unlocked: Show Your Pride (Bribe Rich into producing the OOTS Kickstarter patch)
Achievement Unlocked: Off The Rails (Claim victory over the [S]DM comic author by forcing him to run out of things to produce with the pledge funds)
Achievement Unlocked: Scoundrél Sequel (Mystery Prize #1 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: I Guess We'll Need Torches Or Something (Mystery Prize #2 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Back To The Beginning (Mystery Prize #3 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Wallpapers! (Mini-Prize #1 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: The Order of the Stickers! (Mini-Prize #2 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: OotS Hit Point Pad! (Mini-Prize #3 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Tall Graph, Tall Tale (Mystery Prize #4 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Mild Amnesia (Hit goals so fast that Rich loses count and skips Mystery Prize #5)
Achievement Unlocked: Messy Pile Of Fiery Wax (Mystery Prize #6 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Twig Figures (Mystery Prize #7 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Encore Presentation (Mystery Prize #8 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Dance Puppet, Dance! (+1 day to Week of OOTS sometime later this year)
Achievement Unlocked: More Dancing, Puppet! (+2 days to Week of OOTS sometime later this year)
Achievement Unlocked: The Monster Mash (A Monster for All Seasons achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Move the line! (Mystery Prize #9 achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Got What We Came For (Raise $57,750)
Achievement Unlocked: Here There Be Dragons... (Raise over $500,000)
Achievement Unlocked: It's over Nine (Hundred) Thousand! (Raise over $900,000)
Achievement Unlocked: Million Dollar Club (One MILLION dollars raised)
Achievement Unlocked: Make History (Place in the top ten Kickstarters of all time)
Achievement Unlocked: One For The Record Books (Reach the top five all-time Kickstarters by funding)
Achievement Unlocked: Just a Speed Bump (Place as the #4 all time Kickstarter drive)
Achievement Unlocked: Third Place Pays For All (Place as the #3 all time Kickstarter drive)
Achievement Unlocked: Binary Beast ($100000000000000000000 in base 2 raised)
Achievement Unlocked: Overkill (Original goal exceeded by $1 Million)
Achievement Unlocked: 10 Times the Funding of Mortal Men! (1000% funding achieved)
Achievement Unlocked: Epic Level Funding! (2000% funding exceeded)
Achievement Unlocked: Thor's Fan's Love (Ach, it's not THA kind o' love!) (Get heartfelt thanks from Rich for showing him that his work is greatly loved)
Achievement Unlocked: Holy crap, you guys thought I was serious about that? (Make a serious bid for Rich's last unrealistic goal)
Achievement Unlocked: Breaking Kickstarter (Have more backers than allowed on a limited reward)
Achievement Unlocked: You Totally Kicked Kickstarter's ASS!!! (Dude, I think we crashed Kickstarter...)
Achievement Unlocked: Mainstream is so last decade. (Backers officially exceed circulation of some popular mainstream comics as stated by a major news outlet)

Wow, that's alot...

[Skavensrule]

If your email for Amazon and your email for Kickstarter don't match, it goes to the one you have Amazon under. Have you checked that?

Just a thought to help cover your bases.

Ach, there it is! Thanks! :smallsmile:


My tremendous thanks! After the first hour I had closed my primary email since I was only checking the other. My extra payment went through. My bank account is now crying but I am dancing.

[Sniper]

You wanted all of our achievements? Here you go. (Shale (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12739833&postcount=2620) is responsible for alot of these names. Some liberty may have been taken with the rest)

<snip 60 achievements>

Wow, that's alot...

Sweet, I needed the boost to my gamer score!

You could probably though a couple in for the delay in payments going through (we're complaining that they're lot taking our money fast enough), and the sheer number of comments it got

[Skavensrule]

Sweet, I needed the boost to my gamer score!

You could probably though a couple in for the delay in payments going through (we're complaining that they're lot taking our money fast enough), and the sheer number of comments it got


Confirmed, there were at least 4 seperate "final" totals
$1,253,509 (that appeared as soon as the time was up, and Rich used for the first chart)
$1,253,757 (that I captured but can't post without a host site)
$1,253,841 (that Crisis21 posted)
$1,254,120 (current total that has stayed steady for over an hour now)


Achievement Unlocked: What was the final total again? (we're complaining that they're not taking our money fast enough)
And for me and others with more than one pledge.
Achievement Unlocked: Praise Thor it went through! (finding out that the emails will all go to the Amazon account despite the origin of the pledge)
Achievement Unlocked: Frantic FanBoy/Girl (jumping through hoops trying to get funding when Debit cards and Prepaid cards did not work)

[SaintRidley]

My tremendous thanks! After the first hour I had closed my primary email since I was only checking the other. My extra payment went through. My bank account is now crying but I am dancing.

Not a problem. I thought I'd pass along the word once I saw people were confused, since I had the two email issue as well.

[Terribad]

All said and done, it's a pity Kickstarter can't be used by a non-US citizen :/

[Sorator]

You wanted all of our achievements? Here you go. (Shale (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12739833&postcount=2620) is responsible for alot of these names. Some liberty may have been taken with the rest)

<snip>


Wow, that's alot...

Many thanks, sir! I thought they'd be an entertaining read, and indeed they were.

Now I need to find something new to occupy my time, since F5'ing the Kickstarter page is no longer nearly as rewarding...

[SaintRidley]

All said and done, it's a pity Kickstarter can't be used by a non-US citizen :/

Uh... Do you mean for starting projects? (I have no idea in that case)

Because if it's for pledging, I think you'll find that over half the orders were from people outside the U.S.

[Crisis21]

Many thanks, sir! I thought they'd be an entertaining read, and indeed they were.

Now I need to find something new to occupy my time, since F5'ing the Kickstarter page is no longer nearly as rewarding...

Alternative titles I considered for the Coloring Book achievement: Get Your Color On, and Declare a Crayon-ocracy!

[dakameleon]

All said and done, it's a pity Kickstarter can't be used by a non-US citizen :/

I'm certain that'd be because of Amazon payments - there's certainly a market opportunity there...


and also somehow glad to see I'm not the only one missing refreshing Kickstarter! I've donated to other projects but none were like this, chasing goals and constant updates...

[turkishproverb]

All said and done, it's a pity Kickstarter can't be used by a non-US citizen :/

I'm still surprised it can't.

[HeadlessMermaid]

I'm still surprised it can't.
It can, but with a credit card. In some cases, it can be used even with alternate forms of payment (judging from someone who managed to pay with a European pre-paid card), but not in all cases (judging from myself, who couldn't pay with -another- European pre-paid card, and had to resort to a friend's credit card instead). Don't ask me when it works and when it doesn't, I have no idea.

I believe that only US citizens can start a pledge drive on Kickstarter, but that's another matter.

[Skavensrule]

It can, but with a credit card. In some cases, it can be used even with alternate forms of payment (judging from someone who managed to pay with a European pre-paid card), but not in all cases (judging from myself, who couldn't pay with -another- European pre-paid card, and had to resort to a friend's credit card instead). Don't ask me when it works and when it doesn't, I have no idea.
This is something that Amazon should definately work to fix or at least inform the person at the time of the pledge that it could be a problem. If a card works for normal Amazon purchases why not for this?

I believe that only US citizens can start a pledge drive on Kickstarter, but that's another matter.
This is the situation and KickStarter has some info on their site about this. To go into too much detail would violate the rules of this forum legal issues, so that probably won't change soon.

[factotum]

I'm a bit confused. I got the Amazon e-mail confirming payment, but it doesn't seem to have come off my credit card yet and I don't see this "Collected" thing on the Kickstarter site--where exactly should I be seeing this?

[Skavensrule]

I'm a bit confused. I got the Amazon e-mail confirming payment, but it doesn't seem to have come off my credit card yet and I don't see this "Collected" thing on the Kickstarter site--where exactly should I be seeing this?

Credit card: Can't help there as it all depends on the card/bank/card type, check with the issuing bank to find out if it does not show up soon.

KickStarter: Upper right of the screen has a blue box labled "Me" click on it and a drop-down menu will show. Click on "My backer history". One of the columns is for funds collected.

[honigmuffin]

I checked my credit card's online balance. The Kickstarter pledges don't show up yet, but the available amount is lower than it was before the Kickstarter ended (and the difference matches the pledged amount after currency conversion).
I guess it's only a matter of time until it shows up in the online balance. I got the comfirmation mails, and it says "Collected" on Kickstarter, and the available amount for my credit card changed, so right now I don't worry at all. :smallsmile:

[factotum]

KickStarter: Upper right of the screen has a blue box labled "Me" click on it and a drop-down menu will show. Click on "My backer history". One of the columns is for funds collected.

Aha, that was the problem--NoScript was preventing that menu opening. Yep, that says Collected, so I guess I ought to stop worrying about it; I'm sure it'll show up on my credit card statement soon enough.

[EDIT] Oh, and my "credit available" is down by the amount of my pledge, too...didn't notice that, Honigmuffin!

[Flame of Anor]

Actually mentioned in the podcast interview. He started one, but shelved it when 4th edition was announced. No way it could be done in time for this pledge and besides he likely won't release anything like that until the storyline is finished due to spoilers.

So look for it in 9th Edition D&D:smallwink:


Maybe. But it might be a long shot. Does he build it in 3.5 even though 10 years from now, when it is ready, no one is playing 3.5? Or does he build it in the current popular edition, even though it might be an edition that doesn't work with the strips at all and/or an edition that rich knows little about?

See the dilemma?


Well, I think it really ought to be in 3.5, since the world itself runs that way in the comic, and 3.5 is just really good. But if that's not really feasible, maybe he could write all the fluff first, then either just release that or release it with two different crunches--classic 3.5 and whatever is the fad edition at that point.

[Terribad]

This is the situation and KickStarter has some info on their site about this. To go into too much detail would violate the rules of this forum legal issues, so that probably won't change soon.

I've been trying to look for it. I see only "we're working on it, thank you for your patience". Perhaps you could direct me to the pertinent link?

I suppose there would be issues like money laundering etc

[Skavensrule]

I've been trying to look for it. I see only "we're working on it, thank you for your patience". Perhaps you could direct me to the pertinent link?

I suppose there would be issues like money laundering etc

That is the "some" part I was refering to. In the past I had looked into more details and found them but that was when I was still in the USA. Now I am in Germany and web searches don't work the way they should anymore. I can't find anything using "Yahoo", it will always try to redirect me to the "DE" version of a page even when if I type in the address directly. Google works better but is still not perfect. The key factor here is that the "We're working on it" has been there for two years so I don't expect any resolution soon.

[dakameleon]

Just to be clear, Kickstarter doesn't place any restrictions on pledging internationally - what I was referring to above was the other side of the equation, that drives can't be initiated outside.

On the pledging side, any issues with credit cards and payments through Amazon is due to what Amazon supports for the kickstarter-style payments - generally an authorisation is simple through your standard Visa/Mastercard/Amex, but because of the particular features Amazon requires of providers not everyone is supported globally. This includes the chargebacks and payment protection policies Amazon Payments requires.

The details get messy, but basically it sucks that it's not as easy as a transaction through Amazon in general, but you have to remember that a kickstarter pledge/transaction is fundamentally different to a simple purchase. I'm sure if PayPal supported the "pre-authorisation", Kickstarter would support that too, but that's the way things stand at the moment.

[pandaman]

I can't believe I missed out on this by a mere 18 hours. 8(

Will there be any way to get some of the goodies still? Like the story...

*sulk*

Sad Panda

[Euodiachloris]

Awwww, Pandaman. <random hug>

I'm sure that, eventually, those will come out in another way. After all, Rich now has the funds to produce practically any book that takes his fancy (if he's wise with investing the cushion). :smallsmile:

[Morgath]

I believe that only US citizens can start a pledge drive on Kickstarter, but that's another matter.

Have seen projects from Manchester UK and Belfast, so that isn't a given.

[Euodiachloris]

Phew!

My Amazon payment finally cleared. It only took -hours- to sort it out. :smallmad:

Silly Barclay's and your over-keen anti-fraud automated blockers. Worse Barclay's and your infuriating layers of voice-mail hell! :smallfurious:

Throwing $345 at Rich was so totally authorised from the start! :smallbiggrin:

[IrnBruAddict]

From Kickstarter:


Can people from outside the US pledge to projects?

Yes! Anyone, anywhere (with a major credit card) can pledge to Kickstarter projects.

I'm not in the US. Can I start a project on Kickstarter?

You don't have to physically be in the US, but there are some US requirements to be eligible. Please read: "Am I eligible to start a Kickstarter project?"

We’re working hard to open up to more countries. If you’ve been waiting, we really appreciate your patience.



It can. One pledge drive is in Glasgow and Rich even stated he would ship internationally. Don't see where people keep getting this idea from. It's "can't be used without a credit card" not "can't be used internationally".

Now will people stop saying this. I'm in the UK and you keep scaring me, making me think I'm not getting me swag. :smalleek:

[Rick_DW]

F5 mob refugee checking into OOTS forums. Is this the right forum to hang out in? :smallsmile:

[Forbiddenwar]

Have seen projects from Manchester UK and Belfast, so that isn't a given.

Have seen several projects from companies based in China, so I imagine similar restrictions apply to starting a kickstarter as to pledging on one, a valid place to pull funds from and to put them.


F5 mob refugee checking into OOTS forums. Is this the right forum to hang out in? :smallsmile:

Welcome to the board! It is a wonderful community with many diverse areas, such as random banter, continual story threads, all manner of rpg play by post games, discussion of rules and questions for every known tabletop rpg, movies, books and all other games forms.

[Spacewolf]

From Kickstarter:



It can. One pledge drive is in Glasgow and Rich even stated he would ship internationally. Don't see where people keep getting this idea from. It's "can't be used without a credit card" not "can't be used internationally".

Now will people stop saying this. I'm in the UK and you keep scaring me, making me think I'm not getting me swag. :smalleek:

doesnt even have to be a credit card my debit card was charged successfully, and if it wasnt international why would he have international shipping costs?

[Skavensrule]

doesnt even have to be a credit card my debit card was charged successfully, and if it wasnt international why would he have international shipping costs?

There seems to bit of randomness to the people that have problems. The biggest factors that I can see are: (not in order)
1:Pre-paid cards
2:International cards
3:non-US debit cards
4:non-VISA cards when combined with one of the above

That being said some people with the exact same circumstances have had one be good and the other failed. ???

I think Thog has been petting the internets.

edit: The US only is for STARTING a drive not pledgeing and there are ways around that, you just have to follow the Kickstarter/Amazon rules.

[The Giant]

Because this thread is at over 100 pages, I'm going to close it down now and direct you to the new post-Kickstarter discussion thread (http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12769011), where we can all talk about issues of fulfillment and such.

See you over there.